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Offline Geremia

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Msgr. Sebastian Kneipp
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2025, 12:25:54 PM »
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    Re: Msgr. Sebastian Kneipp
    « Reply #16 on: February 14, 2025, 03:19:32 PM »
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  • Read about Msgr. Sebastian Kneipp, 1821-1897, Pope Leo XIII's physician, who pioneered the health benefits of cold water baths (hydrotherapy). See his: My Water Cure as Tested Through More Than Thirty Years and Described for the Healing of Diseases and the Preservation of Health (TradiBooks reprint).

    He also had Leo XIII drinking cocaine, and that always helps too.  :laugh1:  I wish I could get some of that.



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    Re: Msgr. Sebastian Kneipp
    « Reply #17 on: February 14, 2025, 03:38:11 PM »
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  • He also had Leo XIII drinking cocaine, and that always helps too.  :laugh1:  I wish I could get some of that.


    "His Holiness..writes that he has fully appreciated the beneficent effects of this tonic wine" :laugh1: Maybe RFK jr. can do us a solid and get it back on the market
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    Re: I need discernment about this!
    « Reply #18 on: February 14, 2025, 03:38:36 PM »
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  • Hey, looks like they're back in business.  If it's good enough for His Holiness Leo XIII, it's good enough for me.  I wonder how much of the old secret ingredient it still has.  It does say it's white wine and coca leaf extract (I just hope they don't extract out the active ingredient).

    https://www.cocamariani.com/en/






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    Re: I need discernment about this!
    « Reply #19 on: February 14, 2025, 03:44:58 PM »
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  • From the Wiki article ...

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    Pope Leo XIII purportedly carried a hipflask of Vin Mariani with him, and awarded a Vatican gold medal to Angelo Mariani.


    Pope Leo XIII was about, oh, 123 years old, and still writing an Encyclical once per week ... and that's not too much of a hyperbole.


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    Re: Msgr. Sebastian Kneipp
    « Reply #20 on: February 14, 2025, 04:01:41 PM »
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  • He also had Leo XIII drinking cocaine
    It's all about dosages. Too much of anything can kill you, even water.
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    Re: I need discernment about this!
    « Reply #21 on: July 30, 2025, 07:15:05 AM »
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  • Recently I've been experimenting with the methods taught by Hof and find the initial results promising. I have found the basic breathing practice, followed by a cold shower, to be of substantial help in dealing with the effects of heavily interrupted sleep.

    Thus far I would offer two caveats though:

    1) Pay attention to the warning given that one is NOT to practice the breathing technique while in the water. Apparently a number of people have passed out and drowned because they didn't catch that detail.

    2) Be capable of separating out the method from the man. Apparently Hof himself has problems:





    If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?

    ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

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    Re: I need discernment about this!
    « Reply #22 on: July 30, 2025, 08:32:11 AM »
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  • Seems like an interesting technique.  There's no doubt that 'mind over matter' can produce results, like for healing injuries or for those yogis sitting around in snow drifts who use breathing to dry out wet blankets wrapped around them in freezing temperatures, etc.  For them it might be tied to religious practice but I don't think breathing automatically makes it satanic.  It might actually be smart for a change.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rS7Bhsmf8Ro


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    Re: I need discernment about this!
    « Reply #23 on: July 30, 2025, 10:32:34 AM »
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  • FWIW

    Low Mass - lots of kneeling.  I’ve been very uncomfortable doing this and recently found that NOT hunching-down and retaining a more upright posture helps.  More so, consciously maintaining a steady, regular breathing pattern helped me immensely (I was falling into apnea before)

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    Re: I need discernment about this!
    « Reply #24 on: July 30, 2025, 02:34:12 PM »
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  • Yes, about the breathing.  I listened on the radio years ago, coast-to-coast.  A women wrote a book on breathing techniques.  One was to breath through your nose and out your nose.  And she said, breath like this and it is like how you breath when you say a rosary/Hail Mary. 

    She stated that breathing techniques can help a person out of a wheel chair to walk.  We also know that praying the rosary can lower blood pressure.

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    Re: I need discernment about this!
    « Reply #25 on: July 30, 2025, 04:44:14 PM »
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  • Recently I've been experimenting with the methods taught by Hof and find the initial results promising. I have found the basic breathing practice, followed by a cold shower, to be of substantial help in dealing with the effects of heavily interrupted sleep.

    Thus far I would offer two caveats though:

    1) Pay attention to the warning given that one is NOT to practice the breathing technique while in the water. Apparently a number of people have passed out and drowned because they didn't catch that detail.

    2) Be capable of separating out the method from the man. Apparently Hof himself has problems:



    People have also reported permanent ringing in their ears or other lasting negative affects. This meathod of breathing seems to bring a person close to death with a very high probability of not dying. Too little CO2 changes blood PH such that the body can't absorb and use oxygen. Being near death may cause a release of chemicals found in hallucinogenic mushrooms, which may increase brain activity and fluidity of neural pathways far beyond what is normal. If someone doesn't know exactly what they are doing with this technique, and possibly regardless, they could cause lasting damage.

    I looked into it with hope and curiosity, but have judged it not worth the risk.

    Cold shower or soak is supposed to be beneficial for energy and focus. Stressing the body with extreme heat, cold, hunger, and work (heat being less safe than extreme cold) can trigger some regenerative responses that heal the body.
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