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Online Gray2023

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Re: I need discernment about this!
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2025, 03:37:54 PM »
This doesn't really sound to me like a good idea. So you hyperventilate for a while, and then hold your breath for a very long time? And what exactly does this do to your brain? Hyperventilation can cause strange effects in the brain, I think including euphoria or similar mind-altering effects.

Don't play games with your brain. And don't deprive your body of oxygen. :trollface:
Good point. I didn't think of that.

Re: I need discernment about this!
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2025, 06:37:15 PM »
I didn't watch the video you posted but I read a large portion of a book called "Breath" by James Nestor. It deals with breathing properly, chewing our food, etc.In it he wrote the following which I found really interesting and wanted to share:
"In 2001, researchers at the University of Pavia in Italy gathered two dozen subjects, covered them with sensors to measure blood flow, heart rate, and nervous system feedback, then had them recite a Buddhist mantra as well as the original Latin versions of the rosary, the Catholic prayer cycle... They were stunned to find that the average number of breaths per cycle was "almost exactly" identical, just a bit quicker than the pace of Hindu, Taoist, and Native American prayers:5.5 breaths per minute.
     But what was even more stunning was what breathing like this did to the subjects. Whenever they followed this slow breathing pattern, blood flow to the brain increased and the systems in the body entered a state of coherence, when functions of the heart, circulation, and nervous system are coordinated to peak efficiency. The moment the subjects returned to spontaneous breathing and talking, their hearts would beat a little more erratically and the integration of these systems would slowly fall apart...
     It turned out the most efficient breathing rhythm occurred when both the length of respirations and total breaths per minute were locked in to a spooky symmetry: 5.5-second inhales followed by 5.5 second exhales, which works out almost exactly to 5.5 breaths a minute. This was the same pattern of the rosary"


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: I need discernment about this!
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2025, 08:38:23 PM »
As long as you stay away from anything "spiritual", I'm convinced that there's much we don't know about science that various Eastern cultures have managed to retain aspects of at least.  Rockefeller polluted all of Western medical science to the point that it's a complete joke.

Re: I need discernment about this!
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2025, 08:25:49 AM »
This doesn't really sound to me like a good idea. So you hyperventilate for a while, and then hold your breath for a very long time? And what exactly does this do to your brain? Hyperventilation can cause strange effects in the brain, I think including euphoria or similar mind-altering effects.

Don't play games with your brain. And don't deprive your body of oxygen. :trollface:
What it actually does is to kind of « reset» your nervous system, which leads to be more relaxed and breath better after. It often happens that during the day we never take the time to breathe well with the diaphragm, and then our brain lacks oxygen, and this exercise gives back the oxygen to our brain that we have not given it because of our bad breathing, which is often due to the stress of daily life. This is the main reason for this practice. 

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Re: I need discernment about this!
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2025, 11:03:35 AM »
In terms of the practical considerations, I looked into it briefly, and there are many skeptics.  Some point out that Hof's brother has the same natural ability to withstand cold, without ever having developed such techniques, much less having commercialized them ... and that some individuals have died attempting some aspects of his system.

So I would caution extreme prudence here ... though another part of me realizes that the mainstream Western Rockefeller allopathic medicine demonizes and attacks anyone who has ideas that don't fit in with their extremely narrow and mechanistic view of health.  I believe a more holistic view of health is much more true and accurate, and until Rockefeller, such views pervailed even in the West.