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Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2021, 01:21:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: EWPJ on October 02, 2021, 11:28:41 AM
     Bells Palsy and it's said in most cases Bells Palsy is a result of a demonic problem. 
    "It's said" doesn't cut it. Who says this? Sounds like you just pull fake statements out of your
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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #46 on: October 19, 2021, 01:55:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on October 06, 2021, 07:50:23 AM
    This is the "dilemma" that my wife has created for herself thanks to the influence of her Doctor. She says she will make the decision to do so once the baby is born, despite my warnings and the fact that she doesn't really need to get it since she doesn't really work.
    Since most (not all) women tend to be swayed more by emotion than by hard cold facts, you might collect several videos of women NURSING babies who had bad outcomes for their babies as well as themselves. Show them to her with love and concern for both her well-being and the baby's.
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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #47 on: October 19, 2021, 02:36:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 05, 2021, 01:43:10 PM
    As I wrote before, nothing physical can affect the spirit in the true sense, the intellect and the will ... as they are purely immaterial.
    Which is why you don’t bother with receiving the Eucharist, right?  After all, this whole “faith thing” is purely cerebral, having nothing to do with physical reality.  It’s all just a state of mind!

    I’m sorry, but yours is a very non-Catholic opinion in this regard.
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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #48 on: October 19, 2021, 03:23:49 PM »
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    I think a lot of people who have plenty of other options will simply prefer to take the death jab, so as to not make waves at work, or to avoid being perceived as not a team player (ie., won’t even try a religious exemption; “they’ll think I’m a fanatic”).
    Right, Sean, I agree.  It all boils down to this:  most Trads don't truly believe in the conspiracy.  If they did, they would realize that our present situation is akin to war and they would react accordingly.  They truly don't understand that the elites hate us, want us dead and want us in hell.  And on a religious level, most Trads don't want to see the treason of the new-sspx and the heresies of new-rome.


    As is my favorite quote nowadays:  You can ignore reality (conspiracy) but you can't ignore the consequences of reality (dying from the conspiracy-created vax).
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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #49 on: October 19, 2021, 04:39:03 PM »
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    • I took the 1st jab from Pfizer sadly, trusting in the SSPX and the Vatican essays about the jab. Later, when I came to this forum, I read the "Dominican priest destroys material cooperation..." and my soul weighed. I don't know if I really committed a mortal sin - I'm bad at moral theology, since I'm kinda scrupulous - but I know I won't take the 2nd jab anymore.
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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #50 on: October 19, 2021, 04:43:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: LaramieHirsch on October 19, 2021, 02:36:50 PM
    Which is why you don’t bother with receiving the Eucharist, right?  After all, this whole “faith thing” is purely cerebral, having nothing to do with physical reality.  It’s all just a state of mind!

    I’m sorry, but yours is a very non-Catholic opinion in this regard.

    No, that's not true.

    Indeed, faith is in the intellect.  Period.  End of story.  Faith is not in someone's body, and the state of the body can't impede the faith.  Nor is it an emotional state.

    Physiological state, emotions, etc. can influence (help or hinder) the faith, but they cannot somehow wipe out the faith.

    We are not charistmatics who believe that faith is an emotional phenomenon.  Physiological and emotional states can have an influence (good or bad) on the higher faculties, but they cannot directly effect any change in them.  Period.  That is simple Thomistic philosophy of human nature.  Ask anyone here who has spent a couple years in seminary.

    As for the Holy Eucharist, that's a different thing altogether.  When one receives Holy Communion, the Sacrament is an instrumental cause of grace provided that one is properly disposed.

    If this priest's soul was effected, it was due to the fact that he consented to the jab by his will.  If someone had tied him down and forcibly injected him, that would not have any impact on his faith.  Quite possibly on his physiological, psychological, and emotional state ... but not on his faith.
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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #51 on: October 19, 2021, 04:51:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: aegis on October 19, 2021, 04:39:03 PM
    I took the 1st jab from Pfizer sadly, trusting in the SSPX and the Vatican essays about the jab. Later, when I came to this forum, I read the "Dominican priest destroys material cooperation..." and my soul weighed. I don't know if I really committed a mortal sin - I'm bad at moral theology, since I'm kinda scrupulous - but I know I won't take the 2nd jab anymore.

    To commit a mortal sin, you had to have done it with full knowledge of its gravity.  We'll pin this on the SSPX.  They are culpable in this matter, not you.  It is their duty of state to properly guide the faithful.  That is why the Church has always required such a high degree of education for priests, because ignorance can cause them to lose their souls when giving bad moral advice.  You are not required to have a high mastery of moral theology and to be able to find fault with the reasoning of these clerics.

    Yours is the second case I've heard of someone who got the jab on account of the SSPX.
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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #52 on: October 19, 2021, 06:47:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 19, 2021, 04:51:32 PM
    To commit a mortal sin, you had to have done it with full knowledge of its gravity.  We'll pin this on the SSPX.  They are culpable in this matter, not you.  It is their duty of state to properly guide the faithful.  That is why the Church has always required such a high degree of education for priests, because ignorance can cause them to lose their souls when giving bad moral advice.  You are not required to have a high mastery of moral theology and to be able to find fault with the reasoning of these clerics.

    Yours is the second case I've heard of someone who got the jab on account of the SSPX.
    Thank you. Indeed, I guess many catholics are being led into error because of these moral slips. Poor them.
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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #53 on: October 20, 2021, 02:25:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 19, 2021, 04:43:33 PM
    When one receives Holy Communion, the Sacrament is an instrumental cause of grace provided that one is properly disposed.
    ?!?!?  Are you crazy?  The Eucharist is an "instrument of grace?"  That is outrageous.  It is the body of our Lord.  Its purpose isn't determined by the disposition of whomever eats it.  It is the literal Body of Christ.

    Like it or not, there are some things in this universe that mark a person.  It marks people in ways that are different from other things.  Not all sins are equal.  Not all "sacraments of Satan" are the same.  Some are worse than others.  Just as there are some things that lend towards God more than others.  We are not minds floating around in an irrelevant universe of matter.  
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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #54 on: October 23, 2021, 03:14:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 19, 2021, 04:51:32 PM
    To commit a mortal sin, you had to have done it with full knowledge of its gravity.  We'll pin this on the SSPX.  They are culpable in this matter, not you. 
    No, he was culpable, too. St. John tells us in the Bible (1 John 4:1), "believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world", and St. Paul tells us in 1 Thessalonians 5:21, "but test everything; hold fast what is good, abstain from every form of evil".

    He neglected to do it. Instead, he (initially) put blind trust into a judaized cult that is pushing the agenda of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. With all of the many years of exposed lies, manipulation and corruption of our government leaders and corporate overlords working in symbiosis to deceive, control and harm humanity, any person who doesn't question the mainstream narrative and think for himself is an idiot, lazy, apathetic or indifferent, and lacks an instinct for self-preservation in these days of Antichrist.
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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #55 on: October 23, 2021, 04:00:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: crowbar on October 23, 2021, 03:14:32 PM
    No, he was culpable, too. St. John tells us in the Bible (1 John 4:1), "believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world", and St. Paul tells us in 1 Thessalonians 5:21, "but test everything; hold fast what is good, abstain from every form of evil".

    He neglected to do it. Instead, he (initially) put blind trust into a judaized cult that is pushing the agenda of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. With all of the many years of exposed lies, manipulation and corruption of our government leaders and corporate overlords working in symbiosis to deceive, control and harm humanity, any person who doesn't question the mainstream narrative and think for himself is an idiot, lazy, apathetic or indifferent, and lacks an instinct for self-preservation in these days of Antichrist.


    What’s up with the queer avatar, Croix?

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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #56 on: January 12, 2022, 02:49:42 PM »
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    • Bumping this old thread because I happened upon an audio version of the OP:


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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #57 on: January 12, 2022, 04:08:25 PM »
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    • If you resist, and they jab you by force as a prisoner, you will bring glory to God, for who’s sake you resisted.

    That resistance could be a ticket to heaven:

    “Charity doth cover a multitude of sins.”
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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #58 on: January 12, 2022, 04:38:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 12, 2022, 04:08:25 PM
    If you resist, and they jab you by force as a prisoner, you will bring glory to God, for who’s sake you resisted.

    That resistance could be a ticket to heaven:

    “Charity doth cover a multitude of sins.”
    FEMA death camps are the easy path to Heaven. Pray that's our lot in what's to come
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    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
    « Reply #59 on: January 12, 2022, 05:27:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 19, 2021, 03:23:49 PM
    As is my favorite quote nowadays:  You can ignore reality (conspiracy) but you can't ignore the consequences of reality (dying from the conspiracy-created vax).

    To quote a locally-famous poem of former days:

    "Deal with Reality, or it will deal with thee..."
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