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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2021, 04:43:33 PM »
Which is why you don’t bother with receiving the Eucharist, right?  After all, this whole “faith thing” is purely cerebral, having nothing to do with physical reality.  It’s all just a state of mind!

I’m sorry, but yours is a very non-Catholic opinion in this regard.

No, that's not true.

Indeed, faith is in the intellect.  Period.  End of story.  Faith is not in someone's body, and the state of the body can't impede the faith.  Nor is it an emotional state.

Physiological state, emotions, etc. can influence (help or hinder) the faith, but they cannot somehow wipe out the faith.

We are not charistmatics who believe that faith is an emotional phenomenon.  Physiological and emotional states can have an influence (good or bad) on the higher faculties, but they cannot directly effect any change in them.  Period.  That is simple Thomistic philosophy of human nature.  Ask anyone here who has spent a couple years in seminary.

As for the Holy Eucharist, that's a different thing altogether.  When one receives Holy Communion, the Sacrament is an instrumental cause of grace provided that one is properly disposed.

If this priest's soul was effected, it was due to the fact that he consented to the jab by his will.  If someone had tied him down and forcibly injected him, that would not have any impact on his faith.  Quite possibly on his physiological, psychological, and emotional state ... but not on his faith.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2021, 04:51:32 PM »
I took the 1st jab from Pfizer sadly, trusting in the SSPX and the Vatican essays about the jab. Later, when I came to this forum, I read the "Dominican priest destroys material cooperation..." and my soul weighed. I don't know if I really committed a mortal sin - I'm bad at moral theology, since I'm kinda scrupulous - but I know I won't take the 2nd jab anymore.

To commit a mortal sin, you had to have done it with full knowledge of its gravity.  We'll pin this on the SSPX.  They are culpable in this matter, not you.  It is their duty of state to properly guide the faithful.  That is why the Church has always required such a high degree of education for priests, because ignorance can cause them to lose their souls when giving bad moral advice.  You are not required to have a high mastery of moral theology and to be able to find fault with the reasoning of these clerics.

Yours is the second case I've heard of someone who got the jab on account of the SSPX.


Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2021, 06:47:55 PM »
To commit a mortal sin, you had to have done it with full knowledge of its gravity.  We'll pin this on the SSPX.  They are culpable in this matter, not you.  It is their duty of state to properly guide the faithful.  That is why the Church has always required such a high degree of education for priests, because ignorance can cause them to lose their souls when giving bad moral advice.  You are not required to have a high mastery of moral theology and to be able to find fault with the reasoning of these clerics.

Yours is the second case I've heard of someone who got the jab on account of the SSPX.
Thank you. Indeed, I guess many catholics are being led into error because of these moral slips. Poor them.

Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2021, 02:25:13 AM »
When one receives Holy Communion, the Sacrament is an instrumental cause of grace provided that one is properly disposed.
?!?!?  Are you crazy?  The Eucharist is an "instrument of grace?"  That is outrageous.  It is the body of our Lord.  Its purpose isn't determined by the disposition of whomever eats it.  It is the literal Body of Christ.

Like it or not, there are some things in this universe that mark a person.  It marks people in ways that are different from other things.  Not all sins are equal.  Not all "sacraments of Satan" are the same.  Some are worse than others.  Just as there are some things that lend towards God more than others.  We are not minds floating around in an irrelevant universe of matter.  

Re: Vax Remorse and Spiritual Decline
« Reply #54 on: October 23, 2021, 03:14:32 PM »
To commit a mortal sin, you had to have done it with full knowledge of its gravity.  We'll pin this on the SSPX.  They are culpable in this matter, not you. 
No, he was culpable, too. St. John tells us in the Bible (1 John 4:1), "believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world", and St. Paul tells us in 1 Thessalonians 5:21, "but test everything; hold fast what is good, abstain from every form of evil".

He neglected to do it. Instead, he (initially) put blind trust into a judaized cult that is pushing the agenda of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. With all of the many years of exposed lies, manipulation and corruption of our government leaders and corporate overlords working in symbiosis to deceive, control and harm humanity, any person who doesn't question the mainstream narrative and think for himself is an idiot, lazy, apathetic or indifferent, and lacks an instinct for self-preservation in these days of Antichrist.