Author Topic: Tobacco Bulls (Read 3453 times)

roscoe · « **Reply #5 on:** August 27, 2011, 11:19:14 PM »

I couldn't find the actual source with a search on cathinfo but I did find references to Urban and Innocent disapproving of the substance in one way or another. Maybe it was an old post b4 I was banned at FE.

Btw-- I did run into a couple oldies but goodies. I had forgotten that Jamie has accused Pius IX of running a Cigarette factory-- what a bunch of crap. The only thing that was ever shown in the discussion was that he had a facility to extract Nicotine from the plant. Perhaps this was for the occasional snuff that some some popes are alleged to be fond of. I do not believe that either Pis IX or X ever smoked cigars.

At any rate, that Pius Ix had a cigaret factory has never been shown.

The Search function doesn't work all that well anyway as I was getting new posts with the older than 1 yr I requested. Also I began to get posts that didn't even have the word tobacco in them.

LordPhan · « **Reply #6 on:** August 27, 2011, 11:26:57 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

I couldn't find the actual source with a search on cathinfo but I did find references to Urban and Innocent disapproving of the substance in one way or another. Maybe it was an old post b4 I was banned at FE.

Btw-- I did run into a couple oldies but goodies. I had forgotten that Jamie has accused Pius IX of running a Cigarette factory-- what a bunch of crap. The only thing that was ever shown in the discussion was that he had a facility to extract Nicotine from the plant. Perhaps this was for the occasional snuff that some some popes are alleged to be fond of. I do not believe that either Pis IX or X ever smoked cigars.

At any rate, that Pius Ix had a cigaret factory has never been shown.

The Search function doesn't work all that well anyway as I was getting new posts with the older than 1 yr I requested. Also I began to get posts that didn't even have the word tobacco in them.

Pope St. Pius X was a smoker.

I don`t know about Blessed Pius IX but extracting Nicotine would be used for pesticide not personal consumption, the amount of nicontine in cigarrettes and cigars is microscopic, it takes less nicotine to kill someone then cyanide. When concentrated that is.

roscoe · « **Reply #7 on:** August 28, 2011, 12:04:59 AM »

What is the source of the Pope Pius X smoker allegation?

I would imagine that the point of extracting the nicotine would be to use the remaining nicotine free substance for snuff. I am hardly surprised to find that the nicotine itself is used to kill.

Jamie · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2011, 03:12:17 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

What is the source of the Pope Pius X smoker allegation?

I would imagine that the point of extracting the nicotine would be to use the remaining nicotine free substance for snuff. I am hardly surprised to find that the nicotine itself is used to kill.

Snuff contains nicotine - I own and use snuff from time to time. I can assure you, it was never meant as a non-nicotine product - it is just meant as a different method to make the blood absorb nicotine. This is the brand I buy - as you can see it has a health warning on it. This is one of the oldest snuff producing companies in the world and they still make the original flavors from the 1720s.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3291/2613846472_5aaabfb334.jpg

roscoe · « **Reply #9 on:** August 28, 2011, 08:30:16 PM »

Your allegation that Pius IX had a 'cigarette factory' has never been shown. The only thing that has is that a facility existed to extract nicotine from the tobacco. The reason for this has never been established. Could it be to produce snuff that has either very little or no nicotine? That is my guess.

Nicotine kills as is shown by the fact that-- among other things-- it is used a a pesticide.

No source has been given yet for the allegation that Pius X was a smoker.