Author Topic: The Paleo Diet (Read 3621 times)

poche · « **on:** July 20, 2013, 03:29:32 AM »

Does anyone have an opinion about this?

The Paleo diet has been reported to eliminate bloating, clear up acne, eradicate seasonal allergies, free you from migraines, and even help you shed a few pounds. While none of this is guaranteed, cleaning up your diet and focusing on whole, fresh foods is definitely a good idea.

"Real foods in the right portions help you feel more satisfied because they help keep blood sugar levels even and your hunger hormones balanced," says Diane Sanfilippo, a holistic nutritionist and author of Practical Paleo.

The basic guidelines-skip grains (both refined and whole), legumes, packaged snacks, dairy, and sugar in favor of vegetables, fruit, meat, seafood, eggs, nuts, seeds, fats, and oils-seem easy, but to successfully go cavewoman takes some savvy.

http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/beginners-guide-paleo-diet-150900050.html

Tiffany · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2013, 04:07:42 AM »

S2 wrote about it some in the thread I have in anon. I know two people who lost at least 40 pounds on it and they were people who had tried a million diets before.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2013, 04:53:36 AM »

I'm a paleo and it's done wonders for me. My only allowance for grains is receiving Holy Communion. Other than that I'm really very strict. I was surprised as how much certain idiopathic problems were related to my diet. Of course, it has to be augmented by a rigorous exercise routine or you don't much benefit from it.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2013, 05:16:42 AM »

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Of course, it has to be augmented by a rigorous exercise routine or you don't much benefit from it.

I don't know if that's always true. I did the Atkins thing (which is similar) in 2004 for about a year. My exercise routine was non-existent and I wasn't as strict as I could have been about sticking to the diet, but I still lost 35 lbs. while working an 8-5 desk job.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2013, 09:04:41 AM »

That's great. Is that the diet that cuts out red meat?

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2013, 09:09:34 AM »

I did weight watchers. It was getting costly.
The paleo diet sound interesting.

Napoli · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2013, 11:08:57 AM »

Whenever I need to lose weight, I simply cut out anything that's processed or commercially made. I increase my exercise. Within a couple of days the pounds start melting off.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2013, 11:30:10 AM »

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Quote from: JohnGrey
Of course, it has to be augmented by a rigorous exercise routine or you don't much benefit from it.

I don't know if that's always true. I did the Atkins thing (which is similar) in 2004 for about a year. My exercise routine was non-existent and I wasn't as strict as I could have been about sticking to the diet, but I still lost 35 lbs. while working an 8-5 desk job.

The paleo diet is not intended to be ketogenic like the Atkins diet. It simply replaces the poor-quality carbohydrates ill-suited to our biochemostry, like those from processed grains and starchy vegetables, with better ones from fruits, tubers and saturated fats. You can certainly lose significant weight through cyclical ketosis, even with minimal exercise, but it's also a good way to box your liver and kidneys.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2013, 11:44:25 AM »

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I did weight watchers. It was getting costly.
The paleo diet sound interesting.

There are two main parts to the diet. First is avoiding poor quality carbohydrates, like those from processed grains and starchy vegetables. That means no bread, no potatoes, no corn. Basically the non-meat staples of society since the advent of the agricultural revolution. You replace those with better carbohydrates, non-starchy vegetables and tubers with low glycemic response, and also a lot of good-quality saturated fats. That means no processed oils, like crisco or canola oil. You can use olive so long as it's extra virgin, and not the adulterated crap they label as EVOO in grocery stores. There are loads of organic producers of olive oil in the US with very reasonable prices. However, most paleos use coconut oil as they primary oil saturated fat staple. It has the best long chains that are most readily used by the body for energy, and it's incredibly shelf stable and pretty cheap as well. I personally use VitaCost organic coconut oil.

Second, unprocessed meats. Preferably free-range or at least organic to avoid the hormones and chemicals they pump into commercial herds. An absolute must is nitrate free. Another important part of the diet is the consumption of organ meat, which was very common prior to the nineteenth century and lack of which accounts for most of the vitamin deficiency in humans today. Most cuts of muscle meat are fine, but I suggest going to a butcher so you can be certain about where the meat comes from. Sausages are okay provided they use intestinal rather than artificial casings.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2013, 03:02:42 PM »

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Quote from: JohnGrey
Of course, it has to be augmented by a rigorous exercise routine or you don't much benefit from it.

I don't know if that's always true. I did the Atkins thing (which is similar) in 2004 for about a year. My exercise routine was non-existent and I wasn't as strict as I could have been about sticking to the diet, but I still lost 35 lbs. while working an 8-5 desk job.

The paleo diet is not intended to be ketogenic like the Atkins diet. It simply replaces the poor-quality carbohydrates ill-suited to our biochemostry, like those from processed grains and starchy vegetables, with better ones from fruits, tubers and saturated fats. You can certainly lose significant weight through cyclical ketosis, even with minimal exercise, but it's also a good way to box your liver and kidneys.

Interesting. Perhaps it's good I stopped, but when I think about what I weighed then and what I weigh now, I really can't say that with a straight face. :sad:

When I start to think about diet and what our family should and shouldn't be eating, it generally takes me only a few minutes to reach :faint:.

I'm looking forward to when these girls get older and we have a kitchen army. :ready-to-eat: :dwarf: :dwarf: :dwarf: :ready-to-eat:

Pelly · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2013, 04:26:08 AM »

The Paleo diet is demonic. First, it forbids wheat and alcohol, which are needed for a valid Eucharist. Second, it teaches us to decline to the level of dumb animals, because it is based on evolutionary medicine, which is contrary to our Faith (Yes, I've grown into a creationist, so what?) I think that hunter-gatherer tribes are an ultimate stage of that moral and spiritual decline from the Fall. Just read the story of Noah. It states that the people forgot God and grew more evil. After the Deluge, even the seed of the faithful Noah had a corruption, see Nimrod, who is the father of Sumerians. That's why God needed to lead Abraham (of Shem) away from Mesopotamia. If pagan religions come from the general decline, then living like an animal is an abomination, unless if you're a hermit.
And you try to support evolution through those fossils? Human evolution is nonexistent. Probably you've found the skeletons of the Nephilim.
In short: object it! Go back to the peasant food with the Tradcat fasts and absistences.
Sincerely:
somebody who brought up this topic.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2013, 12:14:30 PM »

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The Paleo diet is demonic. First, it forbids wheat and alcohol, which are needed for a valid Eucharist. Second, it teaches us to decline to the level of dumb animals, because it is based on evolutionary medicine, which is contrary to our Faith (Yes, I've grown into a creationist, so what?) I think that hunter-gatherer tribes are an ultimate stage of that moral and spiritual decline from the Fall. Just read the story of Noah. It states that the people forgot God and grew more evil. After the Deluge, even the seed of the faithful Noah had a corruption, see Nimrod, who is the father of Sumerians. That's why God needed to lead Abraham (of Shem) away from Mesopotamia. If pagan religions come from the general decline, then living like an animal is an abomination, unless if you're a hermit.
And you try to support evolution through those fossils? Human evolution is nonexistent. Probably you've found the skeletons of the Nephilim.
In short: object it! Go back to the peasant food with the Tradcat fasts and absistences.
Sincerely:
somebody who brought up this topic.

Oh, do get over yourself. The paleo diet isn't a religion, so it doesn't forbid anything. I know a number of paleos that still consume both grain products and alcohol, they just avoid doing so on a consistent basis. With the exception of Holy Communion, I avoid it as well.

As far is it being based on evolutionary medicine, it does so only if you view human biochemistry as being a product of evolution. You can just as easily say that God made human biochemistry the way it is. If you want to argue against it, argue against the results that I've seen, in myself and other people. Unless you seriously contend that we're experiencing better health through demonic influence; if that's the case, I'd advise you to up your meds. Likewise, your contention that hunter-gathers represent the "ultimate stage" of moral or spiritual decline is only so much specious bleating on your part. Hunter-gatherers were nomads and lacked most expressions of stationary society, and they certainly were ignorant of the type of shipwrighting exhibited by Noah.

Julie10 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2013, 06:12:18 PM »

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Quote from: Pelly
The Paleo diet is demonic. First, it forbids wheat and alcohol, which are needed for a valid Eucharist. Second, it teaches us to decline to the level of dumb animals, because it is based on evolutionary medicine, which is contrary to our Faith (Yes, I've grown into a creationist, so what?) I think that hunter-gatherer tribes are an ultimate stage of that moral and spiritual decline from the Fall. Just read the story of Noah. It states that the people forgot God and grew more evil. After the Deluge, even the seed of the faithful Noah had a corruption, see Nimrod, who is the father of Sumerians. That's why God needed to lead Abraham (of Shem) away from Mesopotamia. If pagan religions come from the general decline, then living like an animal is an abomination, unless if you're a hermit.
And you try to support evolution through those fossils? Human evolution is nonexistent. Probably you've found the skeletons of the Nephilim.
In short: object it! Go back to the peasant food with the Tradcat fasts and absistences.
Sincerely:
somebody who brought up this topic.

Oh, do get over yourself. The paleo diet isn't a religion, so it doesn't forbid anything. I know a number of paleos that still consume both grain products and alcohol, they just avoid doing so on a consistent basis. With the exception of Holy Communion, I avoid it as well.

As far is it being based on evolutionary medicine, it does so only if you view human biochemistry as being a product of evolution. You can just as easily say that God made human biochemistry the way it is. If you want to argue against it, argue against the results that I've seen, in myself and other people. Unless you seriously contend that we're experiencing better health through demonic influence; if that's the case, I'd advise you to up your meds. Likewise, your contention that hunter-gathers represent the "ultimate
stage" of moral or spiritual decline is only so much specious bleating on your part. Hunter-gatherers were nomads and lacked most expressions of stationary society, and they certainly were ignorant of the type of shipwrighting exhibited by Noah.

WOW! AM I reading this on a Traditional Catholic website? I am Paleo as I am gluten and dairy intolerant. I could care less what other people do but I am shocked to read you talk about the host as bread. I consume the holy Eucharist because it IS NOT BREAD OR WHEAT. It is THE FLESH OF JESUS CHRIST. It is not symbolic people. There was a study (I will have to look it up) from a college years ago that actually confirmed human DNA when they examined a host. It is FLESH.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #13 on:** August 01, 2013, 08:35:33 AM »

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WOW! AM I reading this on a Traditional Catholic website? I am Paleo as I am gluten and dairy intolerant. I could care less what other people do but I am shocked to read you talk about the host as bread. I consume the holy Eucharist because it IS NOT BREAD OR WHEAT. It is THE FLESH OF JESUS CHRIST. It is not symbolic people. There was a study (I will have to look it up) from a college years ago that actually confirmed human DNA when they examined a host. It is FLESH.

Yes, you're reading this on a traditional Catholic website. You're also construing an inference that is entirely beyond my original comments. I've been a member here for nearly four years, and I'd challenge anyone to show me a single instance when I showed anything other than absolute submission to the dogma of Transubstantiation.

The unconsecrated Host, assuming its composition is licit, is made of wheat and water. Yes, having been consecrated it has been substantially changed into the Body, Bloody, Soul and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, yet it still retains the accidents of a wheaten wafer, which is sufficient to affect the body chemistry of a human being. One can become drunk from drinking Communion wine, whether consecrated or no, and I have personally seen the effects of gluten intolerance in a person that received Holy Communion. Now, either the accidents retains sufficient character of the original substance so as to produce the same physiological effect, or you're arguing that the person in question is somehow allergic to the Unbloody Sacrifice. I know which I consider probable.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #14 on:** August 01, 2013, 09:04:49 AM »

The human body is very resilient with regards to the sort of nourishment it can receive.

I suspect the "paleo diet" is bunk.