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Swine Flu warning from Dr. Gitterle
« on: April 29, 2009, 11:40:18 PM »
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  • This is serious. This is not a drill. I think this is the real deal, as much as I'd LOVE to believe otherwise.

    The Swine Flu is WORSE than is commonly believed. Read on.


    I just got this forwarded to me. No link or anything to go with it. This is in Central Texas. You can google his name. He is a medical doctor. Also, I don't know where to put this. If it needs to be moved, thanks in advance.

    Some interesting Info from a local Wimberley Doctor.

    Subject: Flu Update from Dr. Gitterle

    After I returned from a public health meeting yesterday with community
    leaders and school officials in Comal County , Heather suggested I send
    an update to everyone, because what we are hearing privately from the
    CDC and Health Department is so different from what you are hearing in
    the media. Some of you know some or maybe all of this, but I will just
    list what facts I know..

    - The virus is infectious for about 2 days prior to symptom onset

    - Virus sheds more than 7 days after symptom onset (possibly as long as
    9 days) (this is unusual)


    - Since it is such a novel (new) virus, there is no "herd immunity," so
    the "attack rate" is very high. This is the percentage of people who
    come down with a virus if exposed. Almost everyone who is exposed to
    this virus will become infected, though not all will be symptomatic. That
    is much higher than seasonal flu, which averages 10-15%. The "clinical
    attack rate" may be around 40-50%.
    This is the number of people who show
    symptoms. This is a huge number. It is hard to convey the seriousness of
    this.

    - The virulence (deadliness) of this virus is as bad here as in Mexico ,
    and there are folks on ventilators here in the US , right now. This has
    not been in the media, but a 23 month old near here is fighting for his
    life, and a pregnant woman just south of San Antonio is fighting for her
    life.
    In Mexico , these folks might have died already, but here in the
    US, folks are getting Tamiflu or Relenza quickly, and we have ready
    access to ventilators. What this means is that within a couple of weeks,
    regional hospitals will likely become overwhelmed.

    - Some of the kids with positive cases in Comal County had more than 70
    contacts before diagnosis.

    - There are 10-25 times more actual cases (not "possible" cases --
    actual), than what is being reported in the media. The way they fudge on
    reporting this is that it takes 3 days to get the confirmatory nod from
    the CDC on a given viral culture, but based on epidemiological grounds,
    we know that there are more than 10 cases for each "confirmed" case
    right now.

    - During the night, we crossed the threshold for the definition of a
    WHO, Phase 6 global pandemic. This has not happened in any of our
    lifetimes so far. We are in uncharted territory.

    - I expect President Obama will declare an emergency sometime in the
    next 72-96 hours. This may not happen, but if it doesn't, I will be
    surprised. When this happens, all public gathering will be canceled for
    10 days.


    - I suggest all of us avoid public gatherings. Outdoor activities are
    not as likely to lead to infection. It is contained areas and close
    contact that are the biggest risk..

    - Tamiflu is running out. There is a national stockpile, but it will
    have to be carefully managed, as it is not enough to treat the likely
    number of infections when this is full-blown. I don't think there is a
    big supply of Relenza, but I do not know those numbers. If I had to
    choose, I would take Relenza, as I think it gets more drug to the
    affected tissue than Tamiflu.

    - You should avoid going to the ER if you think you have been exposed or
    are symptomatic. ER's south of here are becoming overwhelmed -- and I
    mean that -- already. It is coming in waves, but the waves are getting
    bigger.

    - It appears that this flu produces a distinctive "hoarseness" in many
    victims. The symptoms, in general, match other flu's; namely, sore
    throat, body aches, headache, cough, and fever. Some have all these
    symptoms, while others may have only one or two.

    - N-Acetyl-Cysteine -- a nutritional supplement available at the health
    food store or Wimberley Pharmacy, has been shown to prevent or lessen
    the severity of influenza. I suggest 1200mg, twice a day for adults, and
    600mg twice a day in kids over 12. It would be hard to get kids under 12
    to take it, but you could try opening the capsules and putting it on
    yogurt. For 40 pounds and up, 300-600 mg twice a day, for less than 40
    pounds, half that.

    - Oscillococinum, a homeopathic remedy, has been vindicated as quite
    effective in a large clinical trial in Europe , with an H1N1 variant. You
    can buy this at Hill Country Natural Foods, or the Wimberley Pharmacy.

    I will try to keep everyone posted if I have any new information.
    Meanwhile, don't be afraid just avoid infection. The fewer people
    infected the easier it will be for our public officials to manage it.

    Marc
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    Swine Flu warning from Dr. Gitterle
    « Reply #1 on: May 03, 2009, 09:06:12 PM »
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  • The Flu is just a media hoax to obscure the Pedophile Act that passed the House last week. The Pres will sign this bill and anyone who criticises a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ for raping a child will be brought up on 'hate' crimes charges. Thank you anti-christ.
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    Swine Flu warning from Dr. Gitterle
    « Reply #2 on: May 06, 2009, 05:09:22 PM »
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  • I don't know what to make of this famous "Gitterle warning" -- he obviously was wrong. Was this letter some kind of hoax to get people all excited? Worked on me!  :laugh1:
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    Swine Flu warning from Dr. Gitterle
    « Reply #3 on: May 07, 2009, 01:20:30 PM »
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  • whether or not it was a hoax to stir up the world, I still appreciate the info on the natural remedies for flu

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    Swine Flu warning from Dr. Gitterle
    « Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 01:49:53 PM »
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  • http://healthsense.squarespace.com/journal/2009/5/1/fraudulent-edited-email-going-around.html

    The fact that the content was false (not merely wrong) is now manifest.  But it likely has nothing to do with Dr. Gitterle.


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    Swine Flu warning from Dr. Gitterle
    « Reply #5 on: May 07, 2009, 05:15:13 PM »
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  • We might find out this fall...
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    Swine Flu warning from Dr. Gitterle
    « Reply #6 on: May 08, 2009, 09:21:54 AM »
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  • Quote from: ChantCd
    We might find out this fall...


    Who knows what will be this fall, but the content of this warning will always be wrong as it relates to the situation last week.

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    Swine Flu warning from Dr. Gitterle
    « Reply #7 on: May 08, 2009, 04:05:04 PM »
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  • Quote from: Vandaler
    http://healthsense.squarespace.com/journal/2009/5/1/fraudulent-edited-email-going-around.html

    The fact that the content was false (not merely wrong) is now manifest.  But it likely has nothing to do with Dr. Gitterle.


    What exactly do you mean by this?

    From what I've read, I think there was way more backtracking by the doctor than editing of the original email.

    I think it had more to do with the fact that his intended audience was very limited than a case of "I didn't write that."

    It's not surprising that an ER doctor would have an unnecessarily extreme opinion of the severity of the situation.
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    Swine Flu warning from Dr. Gitterle
    « Reply #8 on: May 09, 2009, 07:33:57 PM »
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  • Lol, Obama's at it again; another attempt to micromanage our lives. Probably a ploy for the universal health care we can't afford.

    In regards to being a responsible man, would it be interesting to learn, after six years of accuмulating all the wisdom you could, that you had it right all alon

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    Swine Flu warning from Dr. Gitterle
    « Reply #9 on: May 11, 2009, 09:07:42 AM »
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    I think it had more to do with the fact that his intended audience was very limited than a case of "I didn't write that."


    It's a mix of both, but mostly a case of a small intended audience, I agree.

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    It's not surprising that an ER doctor would have an unnecessarily extreme opinion of the severity of the situation.


    I'm not sure why that would be the case. But regardless, he would be entitled to his personal opinion.

    At stake here, to me anyway are standards of quality that should apply in diffusing, and accepting information.  There are minimum requirements that needs to be met and this article, or email did not cover even half of what is needed to be considered seriously.  I think everyone benefits from tight sanity filters.