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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Sweet Bioenergetics?
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2025, 04:25:37 PM »
Yup, you are on exactly the same track I'm on.

What a massive eye opener to discover that what the keto/carni community teaches is only 1/2 the truth. Gluconeogenesis is the devil, vis a vis good metabolism and thyroid function.

I have so many subjects on my list to delve into. One of them is the problem of decreased CO2 production tanking metabolism.

Here is an interesting technique I just stumbled upon to increase CO2. Who knew?


The eye opener for me was to think of the Lenten fast.  No meat, no oil (except omega 3s from fish), no eggs, no dairy.  The OLD fast.  This is basically the sugar diet.  

And the science says that if you do something like this, super low oil/low protein, for a period (not long term), then the body goes and finds all the oils in your system and uses them up.  When your body runs on carbs only, it’s super easy to digest and gives it a rest.  You’re able to heal and repair.  It makes sense that God wouldn’t tell us something bad.  


Re: Sweet Bioenergetics?
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2025, 09:54:19 AM »
The eye opener for me was to think of the Lenten fast.  No meat, no oil (except omega 3s from fish), no eggs, no dairy.  The OLD fast.  This is basically the sugar diet. 

And the science says that if you do something like this, super low oil/low protein, for a period (not long term), then the body goes and finds all the oils in your system and uses them up.  When your body runs on carbs only, it’s super easy to digest and gives it a rest.  You’re able to heal and repair.  It makes sense that God wouldn’t tell us something bad. 

Absolutely! Great point!

One of the questions I have involves releasing PUFAs from the body's fat storage. 

I haven't started researching this yet, but the little I've come across seems to indicate that you don't want to go full spectrum fat burn - say, by a ketogenic diet - not only because you don't want to be in chronic fat oxidation, i.e. stress mode - but because you don't want to flood your bloodstream with these freed up PUFAs. 

What I've so far been able to garner is that the ketogenic protocol will slow the metabolism, crash the thyroid, release mountains of fat into the blood, and overstimulate the stress response - so that in the long term you wreck your metabolism, stress your liver, raise cortisol, adrenaline, and estrogen, and make yourself less insulin sensitive. 

If you eat - and possibly supplement (aspirin and niacinamide?) - in a manner calculated to slow down fatty acid oxidation, you may still lose weight by healing the metabolism, given that the heart, muscles and kidney like fat for energy, and so the body is always burning fat even when making good use of glucose metabolism. 

Based on that idea, I am trying to keep dietary fat as saturated as possible, and under 60 grams per day. 

Re: Sweet Bioenergetics?
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2025, 01:25:55 PM »
All grains are contaminated said a medical person giving lectures for CE's. CE's are classes for medical staff to keep up license .  This lady spoke in 2010 and said, even if the package says  GMO free, it is still contaminated.

I had to learn from Sprouts, a man on the floor who spoke of nutrition.  My fats were high.  He said, liquid fish oil 1 tablespoon 1 hour before you eat or 1 hour after.  Fish gels don't work.  So, I got off lipitor and my high numbers came down in 4 weeks.  I was told to look at a book called Breaking the Vicious Cycle by Gottschall.

I lost 10% of my weight.  Was able to come off my blood pressure pills.

I don't go by the book entirely, but I make monster cookies for myself with almond flour.

I took on steamed veggies with chicken and melted cheese. Substituted spaghetti squash for pasta.  I tried and did well for 10 years. then I lost my estrogens age 72.  I just have to try to be good.  I still cut back on glutens, because they are no longer appealing to me. 

Re: Sweet Bioenergetics?
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2025, 01:58:37 PM »
All grains are contaminated said a medical person giving lectures for CE's. CE's are classes for medical staff to keep up license .  This lady spoke in 2010 and said, even if the package says  GMO free, it is still contaminated.

I had to learn from Sprouts, a man on the floor who spoke of nutrition.  My fats were high.  He said, liquid fish oil 1 tablespoon 1 hour before you eat or 1 hour after.  Fish gels don't work.  So, I got off lipitor and my high numbers came down in 4 weeks.  I was told to look at a book called Breaking the Vicious Cycle by Gottschall.

I lost 10% of my weight.  Was able to come off my blood pressure pills.


I don't go by the book entirely, but I make monster cookies for myself with almond flour.

I took on steamed veggies with chicken and melted cheese. Substituted spaghetti squash for pasta.  I tried and did well for 10 years. then I lost my estrogens age 72.  I just have to try to be good.  I still cut back on glutens, because they are no longer appealing to me.
Would you please share a link for the fish oil you recommend?  My husband has been on blood pressure medicine for a couple/few months and has been trying to figure how to get it down enough to get off the medication.

We buy our spelt grain straight from the AncientGrains farm and use 100% homeground spelt in our bread/pizza/cookies etc.

https://www.ancientgrains.com/

My husband's health has been a LOT better since we started doing this even though it is a lot of extra work every day (Unless we have leftovers bread, rolls etc.)

My family grew up making monster cookies!!!  My sister still likes to make them a lot for her husband since oatmeal is gluten free and he has celiac disease.  🥰