Were Trads as obsessed with diet and body weight back in the 1980s and 1990s?

I don't remember ever hearing a discussion about diet in the SSPX tea room.

I was super fit in those days and running 31 mins for 10,000 and sub 2.30 marathons.

Well, I didn't think much about it until I hit 40 and felt that my energy levels were dropping, interfering with my ability to keep up with my duties of state.

My advice having observed the young adults around me and 30 years since is to start getting a plan together now.

OCD has advantages in certain jobs such as data analyst, data science, risk manager, data audit and data curator and handling and manipulating data (loosely called Big Data).  This is where the largest growth in well paid white collar jobs will be over the next few years.  I jumped to this sector 11 years ago because I was listening for the early signals of where the next gold rush was coming from.  Prior to that I sold trading/risk systems to banks and hedge funds, but the 2008 crash put the dampers on that market.  There's still money to be made, but only 50-60% of the gold rush days of the 90s and 00s

I only have 1 real skill in life and that is being an efficient leech and bandwagon rider.  I get in on trends early, build up a network of contacts and milk it for all it is worth.  I have a nose for what the next big thing is and can smell the money rushing in from investment funds and private equity.  Booming industries have HUGE amounts of money sloshing around in them and everything, wages, conference prices, contractor rates all boom as a result.   It's difficult to avoid some of that money sticking to you.

Ride a 20 year wave and you can own a $1m house by 40 years old outright just by being an employee.  Then with no mortgage and two paid for cars in the drive, you can downsize/backpedal.

Data is the new oil and millions and millions of new jobs will be created in almost every company in the world.  Other jobs are going to disappear or reduce to 10% of what they were as robots take over those roles (call centre operator, bookkeeper, financial trader/broker, clerks, low-level accounts).  But data jobs are going to boom over the next 20 years.  These jobs require a VERY in-depth interest in some pretty esoteric data sets (and if your social skills are lacking that is no disadvantage).  Once you deeply understand the data set and understand data quality and completeness you are extremely difficult to replace and therefore your salary tends to outpace wage inflation as firms compete for staff.

Ask the adults around you who know you and those whom you trust to suggest what they think your aptitudes and skills might be.  The write to independent professionals and in a humble and polite way ask them for their experience of the career and to tell you the ups and downs.  You might be surprised how many people are happy to help if you ask in the right way.  Ask strangers not friends as they are more likely to tell you the unvarnished truth about the pros and cons of the sector.  Matthew for example could tell you about the realities of being a developer and working from home, the taxes, the problems of working on your own, etc.

Nowadays, it is more important that ever to pick a career path and stick to it.  If you decide to become a computer programmer at 40 or change from computer programming to sales and marketing or sales and marketing to running a logistics company then be prepared to take a big cut in salary and climb the greasy pole again.  In your 20s you have a lot of ambition and energy but few unique skills and little to contribute.  By your 40s you need to have those skills established (by reputation as much as reality) so you can back pedal in your late 40s and 50s when you are lacking in energy.  Moreover by your 40s and 50s you are in the middle of raising a large Catholic family (unavoidable if your wife isn't contracepting) so you need to be able to back-pedal a bit to spend the time with your half-dozen to one-dozen children to make sure they get the skills in life to not be dropouts and basement dwellers.

Pick once, pick wisely and throw yourself at it five or six days per week.  If you are really busy with work and learning useful commercial skills you should find that the other problems handle themselves.  Women will find you if they know you are earning more than the other young men on their radar.  If at 26 you decide to try a vocation, then you can afford to take a couple of years out, fund yourself and come back to your career at 28.

If university is free in Denmark and you are smart enough, then go and do something sensible like a STEM subject.  Otherwise get into the world of work.  In truth for most jobs, most employers don't care much about university degrees.  They want reliable employees who turn up and get the job done.  I am regularly in Copenhagen, Arhus and Esbjerg so I know what the local jobs scene is like for the banking, insurance and telco (mobile) sectors.

You also have to think of a job that 1 billion Indians and 1.3 billion Chinese cannot easily do in the next 20 years.  Because the internet makes them cheaper to employ and companies are always going to watch their bottom line.  No Ching-Chong is going to be able to sell a large AI system to a bank, because those are sold in English and will continue to be.  An Indian might be able to sell a system, but generally speaking the smaller vendors who sell cutting edge technology are not based out of India and frankly the number of Indians who are westernised enough to do business with western run companies are fairly few and they are usually working for those companies and selling THEIR stuff to India.  The vast majority of Indians are peasants.  Some of them well educated, but with a peasant mindset.

What about being a YouTube celery or starting a blog, you can make hundreds of thousands, even millions, from home and never having a boss.

On a more serious note, I hear digital marketing is also another area where there’s a lot of demand and people get paid well.

Moving the goal post again. Anyone with inference reasoning can see you implied that fat is needed to be consumed, just like water, since my premise (which I've backed with many scientific studies) is a high carb/sugar and low FAT/oils/animal protein diet is the most healthy.

Good job! You're finally getting it! You suggested that fats are unnecessary because carbs are better at providing energy, and I gave water as an example that we need to consume things for reasons other than providing energy, to show how your line of thinking was fallacious. That does not mean that fats or water are the same or serve the same role, as you were implying I claimed.

I never stated it was ... Another strawman by you, and an irrelevant point to boot.

Do I really have to repeat your own comments back to you? I said carbs are better at providing energy than fats, and then you said that was proof that people don't need fats. So I responded saying that energy is not the only thing we need food for, meaning that fat's inefficiency at providing energy does not make it useless.

Another effeminate outburst and projecting your own guilt of lying - all wrapped up into one.

I just linked undeniable proof of you lying, whereas you still haven't cited a single example of me lying. Nice try though.

Learn to read

You conveniently quoted all your studies, so it's very easy to see that the word calorie is not mentioned in a single one of them contrary to your claims. Showing once again that you're an ill-willed liar.

Having only skimmed the first few pages of this thread......I used to have a guy that worked for me who was big time OCD, he was about 50 years old and was a strict vegetarian for 30 years. Best dam worker I ever had, talk about being detail oriented and doing his job quickly and correctly *every* time, well, that was him. Of course, he would go into 'crying little girl mode' when something happened to disrupt his "rhythm" so to speak, but he was the best dam worker I ever saw.

He's 68 now and the last I heard a few months ago, he started eating meat a few years ago, even indulges in junk food now - but as far as his OCD is concerned, nothing has changed, he's still just as OCD as he ever was.

Carry on. :cheers:

People with "OCD" simply need a good whoopin' and/or to humble themselves before God.

It'll snap them out of it.

Although never diagnosed, my father certainly has OCD/autistic traits.  He's a retired physicist, age 90.  He has lost some of his intellectual sharpness, but he's still a stickler for routine and detail.  In 1990, or thereabouts, he took it upon himself to clean out and organize a huge storage room at the laboratory where he worked.  It was not his job description, but it's constant state of chaos and disorder interfered with his work.  His assistants would take days sometimes to find necessary equipment.  Sometimes it would be located eventually in a building two miles away.  In the meantime, he'd gone ahead and ordered a replacement.  About a year ago, he received a call from the lab because an experimenter was looking for a hand-tooled mirror, made especially for a beam separator in a 1968.  A man who remembered him from his younger days said that if anyone knew if the mirror still existed and where to find, it would be Dr. M., if still living!  My father knew where the mirror was, in 1990!  They looked, and sure enough, exactly where he'd stored it all those years ago!  

What about being a YouTube celery or starting a blog, you can make hundreds of thousands, even millions, from home and never having a boss.

On a more serious note, I hear digital marketing is also another area where there’s a lot of demand and people get paid well.

My brother lives in a home worth 1.3 million, has 11 children, paid his mortgage off by 40.  Never owned a business, never inherited much money.
Left university at 21, ordinary career as a software programmer.  He had just never been unemployed and lives a fairly frugal life. But they go on EU holidays every 3 years.
He would have earned a lot more if he had been career minded, but he was just a reliable worker who did his job.  People understimate the compound power of 20 years of earning and saving and not having periods of unemployment, failed businesses, bankruptcy and divorce.  Eventually he was made redundant around the age of 50, his department outsourced to India, got a big check (but he had paid his mortgage off by then anyway) and then found a new job in a new field after 2 to 3 month.  Had to learn Java and cloud software development from scratch.  But with the work discipline he had from all those years of plugging away, by month six he won employee of the month.
There are so many screwed up people in the work today with addictions, psycho problems and personal life problems that just being Mr. Stable and getting your job done with enthusiam and hard work puts you ahead of the pack in many offices.  Number 1 compliant I hear from business owners?  "We just cannot hire enough decent staff".  20% do 80% of the work.
If you are low risk, and he is, it is a way to be financially stable and comfortable at 45.  I took a riskier path myself but I am a gambler.
His daughter is a YouTuber.  She is married with kids now but she made very good money on YouTube doing makeup tutorials.
Digital marketing is just marketing using social media and web advertising.  I reckon that aside from human data analysts and salespeople who follow up the leads generated, plus professional proposal writers who can cutomize the proposal text to the readers skill level, a software robot can perform the actual marketing tasks much better.  So net jobs in marketing will probably drop.
Data jobs and data science and the tech around that will be the boom industry for white collar jobs.  Like getting into personal computers in the mid 1980s and the internet in 1993/94.