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Offline ihsv

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Re: Stevia (Sweetener) is a Contraceptive
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2022, 11:59:09 AM »
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  • I felt obliged to look into this as we have grown stevia before for diabetic family members. First, it is important to understand that TrueVia and the like sold in most US grocery stores are either synthetic stevia or are mostly erithrytol, which is horrible for gut health and ought to be avoided. They aren't REAL stevia, and all bets are off. It would not surprise me if those sweeteners have the same effects as Nutrasweet.

    Does anyone have an account with science.org to look at the 1968 study offered as proof? It would be good to know how they measured decreased fertility because we have much better technology for assessing such things as egg quality now than existed in 1968.

    Also, did anyone go through the "corroborating studies" posted? Because when you do, you find this is the very next study:
    Safety evaluation of aqueous extracts from Aegle marmelos and Stevia rebaudiana on reproduction of female rats - PubMed (nih.gov)
    So the "corroborating" evidence states exactly the opposite, that it posed no risk to fertility. The other links in the corroborating evidence" have nothing at all to do with stevia AND fertility, but stevia and glucose levels, etc...

    Interestingly, I found several "health" websites that made the same claim and linked to the same set of studies, as well as this one:
    933. Sweetening agent: Stevioside (WHO Food Additives Series 42) (inchem.org) And again, when you read the actual study,
    Groups of 10 male and 10 female one-month-old golden hamsters
        (Mesocricetus auratus,) were force-fed with stevioside (purity, 90%)
        at 0, 500, 1000, or 2500 mg/kg bw per day daily. Each female was mated
        and allowed to bear three litters during the experiment. Females in
        late gestation and while lactating (one month) received stevioside in
        the drinking-water. Two weeks after the offspring had been weaned, the
        females were mated again. No abnormalities were found in the growth or
        fertility of animals of either sex. All of the males mated females
        efficiently and successfully; the females showed normal four-day
        oestrus cycles and became pregnant after mating. The duration of
        gestation, number of fetuses, and number of offspring were not
        significantly different from those of controls."




    I can only wonder if this is a variation on the telephone game.


    As for the initial claim that Indians used it for contraception, I had never heard of stevia as a contraceptive. But, if a tribe was using something that reduced fertility by 57-90 percent for hundreds of years, it seems that they probably would have died out by now.  Children are only a liability in modernized, industrialized society. In any other society, they are an asset. 57-90 percent would be a very strong contraceptive. For that matter, all the trad families that have been using it as a sugar substitute ought to have seen some effect by now instead of seven children under nine.  I did find the lawsuit of the tribe that introduced stevia to the world from when they tried to sue Coke for making a synthetic version and the tribal chief testified that it has been used at an anti-parasitic and a sweetener in their culture. Nothing about contraception. Hmmm...

    And finally, if stevia is sinful, then so is sugar because there are loads of studies showing the effects of refined sugar. One soda per day reduces fertility in males and females by 20 percent, for example. This makes lots of sense because of the biology of how excess sugar is stored in the body (as fat) and fat producing estrogen.

    End of analysis, take it or leave it.


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    Re: Stevia (Sweetener) is a Contraceptive
    « Reply #16 on: November 16, 2022, 12:11:00 PM »
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  • Again I'm not trying to be academic head here... But questions needed to be asked. Were you able to confirm any of those claims, including stevia tea being "common contraceptive in South America," and which study done in what year proved the effects of it?
    Here's what I found: https://www.drhardick.com/stevia-infertility
    Some are warning consumers to avoid stevia because it may reduce fertility. The root of this is a 1968 paper claiming certain tribes in Paraguay (Matto Grosso Indians) used stevia tea as a contraceptive.
    To investigate this claim, Professor Joseph Kruc of Purdue University performed a study using rats (1968). He fed the rats stevia (enormous quantities by human standards), and they produced fewer offspring than the control group. (2, 3, 4) However, the study has been described as having dubious scientific methodology, and multiple studies attempting to replicate its findings failed. Kruc later admitted that the rats’ lower fertility rates may have resulted from his “overdosing” them on the compound. (5)
    Fast forward 20 years to Brazil, Professor Mauro Alvarez repeated the Kruc study and confirmed a contraceptive effect from stevia among female mice. However, his methodology was the subject of even more criticism. Many subsequent researchers were unable to find any fertility effects, so Alvarez eventually joined them in concluding that Stevia poses no threat to fertility. As for the Matto Grosso Indian tribes who supposedly used stevia for contraceptive purposes, at least one attempt by scientists to confirm the story reportedly failed.
    There have been no human studies showing evidence of impaired fertility from stevia, yet the story continues to receive attention—even from the FDA, which continues to cite the above two studies as their main source of objection, in spite of all of the subsequent studies that refute stevia’s fertility effects. (6)
    But from what I read, pregnant women should still avoid it during pregnancy. AND Truvia is not actually stevia and it's quite harmful. And at this point I start to think maybe it was a conspiracy promoted by the whole refined sugar industry to reduce the natural "sugar" stevia's market, as many people start to be aware of the negative effects of sugar. ;)

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    Re: Stevia (Sweetener) is a Contraceptive
    « Reply #17 on: November 16, 2022, 12:14:39 PM »
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  • I felt obliged to look into this as we have grown stevia before for diabetic family members. First, it is important to understand that TrueVia and the like sold in most US grocery stores are either synthetic stevia or are mostly erithrytol, which is horrible for gut health and ought to be avoided. They aren't REAL stevia, and all bets are off. It would not surprise me if those sweeteners have the same effects as Nutrasweet.

    Does anyone have an account with science.org to look at the 1968 study offered as proof? It would be good to know how they measured decreased fertility because we have much better technology for assessing such things as egg quality now than existed in 1968.

    Also, did anyone go through the "corroborating studies" posted? Because when you do, you find this is the very next study:
    Safety evaluation of aqueous extracts from Aegle marmelos and Stevia rebaudiana on reproduction of female rats - PubMed (nih.gov)
    So the "corroborating" evidence states exactly the opposite, that it posed no risk to fertility. The other links in the corroborating evidence" have nothing at all to do with stevia AND fertility, but stevia and glucose levels, etc...

    Interestingly, I found several "health" websites that made the same claim and linked to the same set of studies, as well as this one:
    933. Sweetening agent: Stevioside (WHO Food Additives Series 42) (inchem.org) And again, when you read the actual study,
    Groups of 10 male and 10 female one-month-old golden hamsters
        (Mesocricetus auratus,) were force-fed with stevioside (purity, 90%)
        at 0, 500, 1000, or 2500 mg/kg bw per day daily. Each female was mated
        and allowed to bear three litters during the experiment. Females in
        late gestation and while lactating (one month) received stevioside in
        the drinking-water. Two weeks after the offspring had been weaned, the
        females were mated again. No abnormalities were found in the growth or
        fertility of animals of either sex. All of the males mated females
        efficiently and successfully; the females showed normal four-day
        oestrus cycles and became pregnant after mating. The duration of
        gestation, number of fetuses, and number of offspring were not
        significantly different from those of controls."






    I can only wonder if this is a variation on the telephone game.


    As for the initial claim that Indians used it for contraception, I had never heard of stevia as a contraceptive. But, if a tribe was using something that reduced fertility by 57-90 percent for hundreds of years, it seems that they probably would have died out by now.  Children are only a liability in modernized, industrialized society. In any other society, they are an asset. 57-90 percent would be a very strong contraceptive. For that matter, all the trad families that have been using it as a sugar substitute ought to have seen some effect by now instead of seven children under nine.  I did find the lawsuit of the tribe that introduced stevia to the world from when they tried to sue Coke for making a synthetic version and the tribal chief testified that it has been used at an anti-parasitic and a sweetener in their culture. Nothing about contraception. Hmmm...

    And finally, if stevia is sinful, then so is sugar because there are loads of studies showing the effects of refined sugar. One soda per day reduces fertility in males and females by 20 percent, for example. This makes lots of sense because of the biology of how excess sugar is stored in the body (as fat) and fat producing estrogen.

    End of analysis, take it or leave it.
    Haha it's funny that we were both doing the analysis and I just posted mine. INTJ buddy by any chance? And I think it's rather weird for a premitive tribe to even use contraceptive, since for the tribes population is key in development and they will be most likely trying to get as much fertility as possible. You can click on the hyperlink in my response and find that paper.
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    Re: Stevia (Sweetener) is a Contraceptive
    « Reply #18 on: November 16, 2022, 02:47:20 PM »
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  • About things that reduce fertility, and are not also abortive, like hormonal contraceptives, things are not so clear.

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    If the couple uses it with the intention of reducing fertility, it would probably be only a venial sin, in my opinion.
    Regarding the first point, as I said earlier in this thread, Hormonal contraception is designed so it works as an abortifacient, if it fails as a contraceptive. See How the pill works and fails http://lifeissues.net/writers/wilks/wilks_04pillworks1.html

    Regarding the second, If the couple uses it with the intention of reducing fertility it would probably be only a venial sin,
    how isn't contraception intent not a mortal sin. 
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    Re: Stevia (Sweetener) is a Contraceptive
    « Reply #19 on: November 16, 2022, 04:43:39 PM »
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  • Sugar is luxury.  The generation that had ban on sugar and bread have lived to be 100 
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    Re: Stevia (Sweetener) is a Contraceptive
    « Reply #20 on: November 16, 2022, 06:47:48 PM »
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  • Regarding the first point, as I said earlier in this thread, Hormonal contraception is designed so it works as an abortifacient, if it fails as a contraceptive. See How the pill works and fails http://lifeissues.net/writers/wilks/wilks_04pillworks1.html
    I agree with you. Hormonal contraceptives are also abortive.

    My post should have been better worded.

    Regarding the second, If the couple uses it with the intention of reducing fertility it would probably be only a venial sin,
    how isn't contraception intent not a mortal sin.
    In my opinion, reducing fertility is not the same as contraception. The couple might use the sweetener because they think it's healthier, even though they know that it reduces fertility. So there wouldn't be a contraceptive intent. 

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    Re: Stevia (Sweetener) is a Contraceptive
    « Reply #21 on: November 23, 2022, 05:38:41 PM »
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  • Stevia, a very popular sweetener, is a contraceptive.
    Dude, that's in line with the rumors about the food and coffee being spiked with saltpeter in the mess hall when I was a private.  

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    Re: Stevia (Sweetener) is a Contraceptive
    « Reply #22 on: November 24, 2022, 04:10:39 AM »
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  • Just eat real sugar. Avoid dietary fat. Fat is what causes disease and weight gain, not sugar. That fat you eat is the fat you wear. Artificial sweeteners cause diseases, too.

    All I eat is sugar and carbs and veggies while I keep my dietary fat at 10 grams or less a day. I'm extremely fit and healthy with single digit body fat.

    Sure, every blue moon I'll eat a fatty bucket of buttered popcorn, and I'll be sure to eat popcorn as I watch Russia publicly hang Zelensky after he's captured.
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