Author Topic: Smokers (Read 2863 times)

poche · « **on:** June 07, 2013, 03:57:12 AM »

If you smoke it is anticipated that you will cost your employer some money;
Smoking doesn't just damage smokers and people who spend time with them. It also hurts the bottom line for companies that employ smokers.
According to a new study from Micah Berman at Ohio State, the average smoking private sector employee costs companies $5,800 more per year than one who has never smoked.

Annual cost estimates ranged from $2,885 to $10,125.

That's a pretty significant chunk of change. According to the study, on average there's about a $517 loss from increased absenteeism, a $462 loss of productivity related to nicotine addiction, a $3,077 loss due to smoke breaks, and $2,056 in extra health care costs.

The researchers were relatively conservative in their estimates, figuring five smoke breaks in an eight hour workday, three of which took place during assigned breaks.

This is a much higher estimate than a CDC study conducted a decade ago, which pegged the number at $3,400.

That's a big cost, particularly for companies with thousands of employees

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cigarette-smoking-coworker-costs-5-213442214.html

Maizar · « **Reply #1 on:** June 07, 2013, 04:48:41 AM »

Some places deduct pay for toilet breaks. Women are possibly at a disadvantage on that one.

In France there is a boom in the sale of electronic cigarettes which have no environmental impact so could potentially be used in the office.

The moral significance of which is unclear to me.

poche · « **Reply #2 on:** June 07, 2013, 05:19:06 AM »

Smoking is bad for your health. Some people say that that makes it a sin to smoke. What do you think?

Maizar · « **Reply #3 on:** June 07, 2013, 05:41:21 AM »

Quote from: poche

Smoking is bad for your health. Some people say that that makes it a sin to smoke. What do you think?

Everything that harms the body for no overriding benefit is clearly a sin. Piercings, tattoos, smoking, most cosmetic surgery, etc. The gravity of the sin is the question.

sedetrad · « **Reply #4 on:** June 07, 2013, 06:17:25 AM »

Smoking is not a sin. Better men than I on this forum have dealt with this topic ad nauseum.

Maizar · « **Reply #5 on:** June 07, 2013, 07:28:19 AM »

Quote from: sedetrad

Smoking is not a sin. Better men than I on this forum have dealt with this topic ad nauseum.

Depends what is smoked. But agreed. Covered ad nauseam.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #6 on:** June 07, 2013, 10:22:25 AM »

My doctor actually told me long ago that smoking my pipe occasionally is okay because it calms me and can lower my blood pressure. :detective:

Napoli · « **Reply #7 on:** June 07, 2013, 01:29:20 PM »

Smoking is definitely not a sin.

In fact, the tobacco producers in this country should be held to account. They intentionally add chemicals which are unnecessary. Tobacco has been smoked for millinea. I occasionally smoke naturally grown tobacco. It's harmless.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #8 on:** June 07, 2013, 03:55:43 PM »

Quote from: sedetrad

Smoking is not a sin. Better men than I on this forum have dealt with this topic ad nauseum.

And don't forget - Pope St. Pius X was a smoker!

This whole anti-smoking is just a form of secular pharaiseeism!

roscoe · « **Reply #9 on:** June 07, 2013, 07:00:35 PM »

What is the source for the accusation claiming :detective: Pius X was a smoker? I am assuming u are referring to tobacco.

Maizar · « **Reply #10 on:** June 07, 2013, 07:09:51 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

And don't forget - Pope St. Pius X was a smoker!

This whole anti-smoking is just a form of secular pharaiseeism!

So to be a saint, I should smoke? We would possibly have had St. Pius X longer with us had he not smoked.

All it tells you is smoking is not a mortal sin in most cases. It's a dirty, unhealthy habit (even if it's simply clean rolled tobacco leaves). It's not benign to smoke anything.

roscoe · « **Reply #11 on:** June 08, 2013, 12:36:11 PM »

A source for the allegation that Pius X smoked tobacco has still not been provided.

Napoli · « **Reply #12 on:** June 08, 2013, 01:54:26 PM »

Groan!

This subject has been beaten to death. Smoking is not a sin and you don't have to smoke to be a saint. Period.

Time to move on.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #13 on:** June 08, 2013, 01:56:59 PM »

Smoking isn't a sin, but it can be a vice.

I don't smoke anymore, but I chew.

And I have a hookah. Shisha is good to smoke, and you can get creative with it. Once I iced coffee and filled the chamber with it, and smoked cappuccino flavored shisha through it. Delicious.

Charlemagne · « **Reply #14 on:** June 08, 2013, 02:43:58 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

A source for the allegation that Pius X smoked tobacco has still not been provided.

Here's your link, so you can wake up now and stop giving everyone who enjoys a smoke a thumbs-down:

http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/1762/in_the_habit_a_history_of_catholicism_and_tobacco.aspx