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Offline Predestination2

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Re: Refined Sugar WILL make you leaner, faster & stronger.
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2025, 08:59:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on February 27, 2025, 08:03:14 PM
    Refined sugar is a much better alternative (and much less processed) than high fructose corn syrup, which is in everything and which destroys your pancreas. 

    Plant oils, seed oils, fried foods, pesticides in produce, cereals, MSG, diet drinks, sugar alternatives and preservatives, — these things are far, FAR more damaging to the body than refined sugar. 

    At least sugar is a natural product, from the cane plant.  It’s been somewhat processed to remove the nutrients but it’s still from nature.  All the things listed above are chemical-based and will slowly kill you.
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    no doubt the listed forms of carbs are worse than refined sugar but that doesn't make refined sugar any better, or better than fat and protein


    and refined sugar may be natural but so is pot, doesn't make it any better.
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    Re: Refined Sugar WILL make you leaner, faster & stronger.
    « Reply #16 on: February 27, 2025, 09:10:29 PM »
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    but that doesn't make refined sugar any better, or better than fat and protein


    Sugar/carbs ARE better for high-endurance activities.  Arguing otherwise is just idiotic.  Fats/proteins take HOURS to digest and get the body fuel.  Carbs give instant fuel.  One is not better than the others.  You need all 3.  WHEN/How much you need, depends on the activity. 
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    Re: Refined Sugar WILL make you leaner, faster & stronger.
    « Reply #17 on: February 27, 2025, 09:33:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on February 27, 2025, 09:10:29 PM

    Sugar/carbs ARE better for high-endurance activities.  Arguing otherwise is just idiotic.  Fats/proteins take HOURS to digest and get the body fuel.  Carbs give instant fuel.  One is not better than the others.  You need all 3.  WHEN/How much you need, depends on the activity.

    Have you looked at the research of tim noakes, he proved that you dont need carbs for athelic training, also explosove movements use creatine but that sonly for sprinting,carbs give instant fel for a bit until they drop, ketones give you constant energy AND they can come from your own body fat if you run out of fuel so you wont run out.
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    Re: Refined Sugar WILL make you leaner, faster & stronger.
    « Reply #18 on: February 27, 2025, 11:32:28 PM »
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    • Have you heard of the four fast food groups?

    SUGAR

    SALT

    FAT

    CAFFEINE 

    Have a serving of each at every meal and hasten your death!
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    Re: Refined Sugar WILL make you leaner, faster & stronger.
    « Reply #19 on: February 28, 2025, 12:52:47 AM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on February 27, 2025, 11:32:28 PM
    Have you heard of the four fast food groups?

    SUGAR

    SALT

    FAT

    CAFFEINE

    Have a serving of each at every meal and hasten your death!
    Sugar is obvious but only trans fats are bad and the anti salt campaign has been debunked by Dr Ken berry et al
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    Re: Refined Sugar WILL make you leaner, faster & stronger.
    « Reply #20 on: February 28, 2025, 04:11:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on February 27, 2025, 10:14:07 AM
    Excessive blood sugar causes insulin resistance
    No, it doesn't. Dietary fats cause insulin resistance because it smothers insulin receptors. Sugar increases insulin sensitivity which means less insulin is needed to do its job. Watch this 3 minute video of doctors explaining it: 

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    Re: Refined Sugar WILL make you leaner, faster & stronger.
    « Reply #21 on: February 28, 2025, 06:45:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: Predestination2 on February 28, 2025, 12:52:47 AM
    Sugar is obvious but only trans fats are bad and the anti salt campaign has been debunked by Dr Ken berry et al
    Dr. Berry along with Dr. Anthony Chaffee and Dr. Shawn Baker have been instrumental in debunking the salt myth along with how salt is being blamed for the obvious harmful affects of refined sugar
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    Re: Refined Sugar WILL make you leaner, faster & stronger.
    « Reply #22 on: February 28, 2025, 07:34:51 AM »
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    Have you looked at the research of tim noakes, he proved that you dont need carbs for athelic training, also explosove movements use creatine
    You obviously haven't exercised at a high-level in quite a while.  I don't need to read research papers; I use my own experience and that of friends who are athletes (and who get advice from trainers).  Most research is crap because it's govt-funded and biased towards an end-conclusion.
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    « Reply #23 on: March 01, 2025, 06:35:32 AM »
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    • Quote from: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on February 28, 2025, 04:11:34 AM
    No, it doesn't. Dietary fats cause insulin resistance because it smothers insulin receptors. Sugar increases insulin sensitivity which means less insulin is needed to do its job. Watch this 3 minute video of doctors explaining it:


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