Author Topic: question for men only (Read 10001 times)

Pheo · « **Reply #25 on:** November 04, 2012, 12:12:10 AM »

Quote from: Graham

Well let's say it actually was a perforated condom. Would that be acceptable? It seems to me that no, it wouldn't be.

I've never been able to reason it out as being acceptable. A small amount of the reproductive material has some chance of passing through a pinhole...and yet that's still 'open to life'? Eh...

I got this response to a similar question on another forum, and I agree with it:

"To be on safest ground (barring other authority), I'd say that if a person is functioning properly, then it is up to God, not biology."

Tiffany · « **Reply #26 on:** November 04, 2012, 12:57:33 AM »

Quote from: Pheo

Quote from: Graham
Well let's say it actually was a perforated condom. Would that be acceptable? It seems to me that no, it wouldn't be.

I've never been able to reason it out as being acceptable. A small amount of the reproductive material has some chance of passing through a pinhole...and yet that's still 'open to life'? Eh...

I got this response to a similar question on another forum, and I agree with it:

"To be on safest ground (barring other authority), I'd say that if a person is functioning properly, then it is up to God, not biology."

No the question is if this collection or testing process violates natural law. We believe God is Almighty and we utilize certain medical tests and treatments.

Is "open to life" in any trad docuмents? I've seen "frustrated in its natural power to generate life" but I've have not seen the "open to life" phrase in older teachings? It's seems somewhat feel good do the nice thing sounding instead of this right and wrong.

JMacQ · « **Reply #27 on:** November 04, 2012, 04:38:27 PM »

question for men only

men

only

please

I am an old-fashioned, pre-VII raised man, happy husband, father, and grandfather, and I think it is totally unacceptable for a female to intervene in this thread. Never in my life I imagined that I would be discussing male reproductive fluids with women, and in a Traditional Catholic forum! Sad times in which essential decency has been forgotten.

Kindly respect our wishes and

LADIES PLEASE STAY AWAY

SouthernBelle · « **Reply #28 on:** November 04, 2012, 06:44:33 PM »

Quote from: JMacQ

question for men only

men

only

please

I am an old-fashioned, pre-VII raised man, happy husband, father, and grandfather, and I think it is totally unacceptable for a female to intervene in this thread. Never in my life I imagined that I would be discussing male reproductive fluids with women, and in a Traditional Catholic forum! Sad times in which essential decency has been forgotten.

Kindly respect our wishes and

LADIES PLEASE STAY AWAY

Infertility is not a problem that affects only men or only women ... it affects the couple.

If no one has ever dealt with infertility issues before, then they are, quite frankly, unqualified to answer. I have no doubt that as one half of a couple that has experienced male infertility issues, I am 100% more qualified to answer than those who have never experienced any problems

And this is an anonymous forum. If posters on this site can sling insults ad nauseam, then surely they can rationally discuss perforated condoms used for the purpose of medical testing.

SouthernBelle · « **Reply #29 on:** November 04, 2012, 06:47:28 PM »

Quote from: JMacQ

No, they are not. You are mistaken.

"The handling of the condom is done only by the patient. A small scissor slice is made at the reservoir end of the condom. The patient then empties the contents through the system's funnel into the transport vial. The vial is sealed with a tight-fitting cap, and the funnel and condom are discarded. "

even clearer
http://www.aia-zavos.com/semen_collection.html

"8. Holding reservoir end of condom over funnel, use scissors to cut a small slice in tip. Carefully squeeze all possible semen from condom (see diagram on Hygene™ box)."

MADAM, STAY AWAY FROM THIS THREAD.

With all due respect.

(PS: I did not give you any of the thumbs down, which I am sure will increase)

Having actually used perforated condoms after seeking advice from a traditional priest, no I am NOT mistaken.

Have you used a perforated condom to collect seminal fluid for infertility testing? If not, then please stop telling me what we did/did not use.