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Offline Carissima

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Re: Perpetual Sickness
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2022, 03:07:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anne Evergreen on January 10, 2022, 01:44:03 PM
    Mariano Rampolla | Italian clergyman | Britannica

    This Rampolla? (Not understanding a bunch of things here...)
    He was a suspected Freemason, and some here are probably familiar with him having been mentioned in Fr Hesse recordings
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #31 on: January 10, 2022, 03:08:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Emile on January 10, 2022, 01:56:22 PM
    Just a point of clarification:
    The article is apparently authored by Fr. Valerii Kudryavtsev, not +Dolan.
    I have no idea what +Dolan's thoughts are on the matter.

    I gave you a thumbs up, Emile, because I read the article you provided and will need to read it again after letting it sit for awhile. Upon first reading however, it resonated with me right away for many reasons. I will just point out a few things and won't cite specific quotes.

    1) Lay people making their own "Holy Water?" That is NOT possible, so therefore if anyone is doing that, it is a false practice. 

    2) The belief that "ONLY" those people living or moving to x,y, z will be saved is FALSE. In this case, Brittany, France. Kooky stuff like this goes right along with garbage from Little Pebble in Australia and Michel Rodrigue ("Father" Michel Rodrigue), and people running off to start their own little communes in places like Sandpoint, Idaho, Sedona, AZ (I mentioned Yuma, AZ in another one of my posts, but I actually meant Sedona--I was tired), and so on.

    As I posted elsewhere, God can save whomever He wants, wherever He wants, whenever He wants! This whole idea of everyone having to give up all their current living arrangements and go to the desert or some cave in a mountain, or some treehouse, or Yurt in Siberia, or whatever floats your boat, is pure nonsense. If people want to live like that, that is fine, but just because the rest of us may reject such arrangements and therefore are "not called" as someone said to me, indicate it is cult-like thinking, and common sense has gone out the window. Long gone. I was also told to "make decisions for my church community," or however it was exactly phrased.

    Yeah, sorry, but I DON'T make healthcare or family living decisions for my church community. Each adult makes their own decisions. So if the poster was trying to indirectly attack me for where I attend Mass (ie. not in an CMRI or Sedevactantist Chapel maybe?), then I read between the lines and laughed. All it does it lessen any respect for their position or opinions I may hold on other issues, etc. 

    3) These types of "remedies" and such ***CONTRADICT EACH OTHER.*** I believe in the brown scapular, and Our Lady of Fatima. She would not tell us to wear the scapular and pray the Holy Rosary and make reparation, etc., and then turn around in another supposed "apparition" and say that "Hawthorne...blah, blah, is the ONLY thing that will save you...blah, blah..."

    I could go on, but I have been able to connect a number of dots just by reading this article and putting a few things together with some absolutely out there and beyond bonkers posts.

    This article is a slam-dunk to also back-up my claims that the amount of people here that are gullible is beyond alarming. The ability for people to actually be able to critically-think is scary. I really would not want to see all the amount of religious hoarding of articles, medals, statues, and so on that might be happening, along with all of the cupboards of herbs, vitamins, concoctions and potions and lotions and elixirs and tonics, and such from herbal supply stores/health food stores and so on.

    I take a much more balanced approach to religious articles and the latter. But here? It seems a bunch of people fall for the next-greatest-herb for aiding insomnia or "curing" x and running out to buy yet another chaplet for this, that or the other thing. Well, I am waiting for the next advertisement for the groupies to start promoting and for the rest of us "outcasts" "not called to be in the remnant" to be laughed at again because we aren't growing turnips in our bathtubs and drinking "blessed" herb water.

    In other words, I am not cuckoo for the latest Catholic coco-puffs.  


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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #32 on: January 10, 2022, 03:38:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Carissima on January 10, 2022, 03:07:36 PM
    He was a suspected Freemason ...

    Now you've done it :laugh1:.

    roscoe in ... 3 ... 2 ... 1
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #33 on: January 10, 2022, 03:40:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anne Evergreen on January 10, 2022, 03:08:04 PM

    This article is a slam-dunk to also back-up my claims that the amount of people here that are gullible is beyond alarming.

    You may want to actually verify the claims of this article.  You might find that you're a bit gullible in taking it at face value.  Julie Marie Jahenny never told anyone to move to Brittany, not that it would be the ONLY safe place in the world.  Her perspecitve from French, and she's indicating that it would be the safest part of France to be in when all that happens.  She wasn't prophesying that the entire world would be destroyed except Britanny.  There are other prophecies out there too that indicate that the aggression from the East would only make it about halfway across France.

    As for Holy Water, I'll actually have to see what she said.  Nobody can make holy water in the strict sense, ex opere operato as it were, but there's nothing to stop their prayers for God to bless water from being heard.
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #34 on: January 10, 2022, 03:40:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 10, 2022, 03:38:47 PM
    Now you've done it :laugh1:.

    roscoe in ... 3 ... 2 ... 1
    Well, my guess was wrong. :laugh1:
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #35 on: January 10, 2022, 03:47:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anne Evergreen on January 10, 2022, 01:36:45 PM
    Oh brother.

    I call BS.

    And I call that you're wrong.  Hawthorne has actually been proven by modern science (before it would have been known to her) to help with circulatory issues and the heart.  Julie Marie herself was not selling anything, but it in fact indicated where people could find Hawthorne in the wild.  So you call BS on the prophecy simply because somebody took a quote and then linked to some store selling Hawthorne?

    I might believe you over her when you show me your stigmata.
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #36 on: January 10, 2022, 03:55:25 PM »
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    • I could spend an hour shredding that letter, but I'll just point out this:

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    The author of the book proposes obviously heretical teaching that a man will be a “savior” - “the Great Monarch” who was called by “Our Lord” and “Our Lady” - "THE CHOSEN OF THE ETERNAL", "THE PEACE AND SALVATION OF HIS PEOPLE", "THE MIRACLE KING", "THE SAVIOUR OF FRANCE ..."

    Such statement must be rejected because it totally contradicts Holy Scripture and Holy Tradition from which every Catholic knows that THE GREAT MONARCH, THE KING, THE SAVIOUR is Our Lord JESUS CHRIST Himself.

    What is he smoking?  Who trained this inept priest?  He sounds like a Prot when they quote "call no man Father".  Of course Jesus is THE great Monarch, and THE Kings, but these doesn't mean that there can't be other lesser "saviours", relatively speaking.  So because Jesus is THE King, there can be no other Kings?

    This many is a dummy and a crackpot, whether or not he's a validly-ordained priest.
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #37 on: January 10, 2022, 04:02:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 10, 2022, 03:47:09 PM
    And I call that you're wrong.  Hawthorne has actually been proven by modern science (before it would have been known to her) to help with circulatory issues and the heart.  Julie Marie herself was not selling anything, but it in fact indicated where people could find Hawthorne in the wild.  So you call BS on the prophecy simply because somebody took a quote and then linked to some store selling Hawthorne?

    I might believe you over her when you show me your stigmata.
    The vast majority of modern drugs have origins in plants. I am not disputing that fact. I call BS on the contradictions in the instructions themselves.

    Our Lady would not speak the way those instructions were given if you look at Fatima. "Sort of" is not words I can imagine Our Lady speaking. That's some human interpretation.

    I am not talking about Julie Marie. I have not taken the time to read her stuff, etc. I am talking about easy to spot contradictions.

    The link to the store just happened to also have a number of other incorrect or false suggestions for diy how to survive "the 3 days of darkness." It was either on the store link itself (I believe it was) that mentioned about Beeswax candles and the purity for Mass versus the "necessity" for 100% beeswax.

    Do you honestly think that Mass candles would not work in the supposed 3 Days of Darkness? If they are good enough for Mass, then they would be good enough for the 3 Days stuff.

    So there's more BS. I don't get too involved in private revelation, this prophecy or that one. I use the KISS principle in many areas of life and for various reasons. That has saved me from getting mixed up with a number of wacky things by well-meaning but believe-everything types I have wrong across in many travels. To each their own. 

    I stick with Lourdes and Fatima and the Miraculous Medal. Anything else? Not interested, really.

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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #38 on: January 10, 2022, 04:03:22 PM »
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    • He also called the "3 days of darkness" heresy.  Heresy on what grounds?  You could argue it's wrong, but heresy?  He cheapens the term heresy.

    BTW, BLESSED Anna Maria Taigi prophesied 3 days of darkness before Julie Marie Jahenny did, and presumably such a heresy would have stopped the Benedict XV from beatifying here.
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #39 on: January 10, 2022, 04:06:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anne Evergreen on January 10, 2022, 04:02:39 PM
    The vast majority of modern drugs have origins in plants. I am not disputing that fact. I call BS on the contradictions in the instructions themselves.

    Our Lady would not speak the way those instructions were given if you look at Fatima. "Sort of" is not words I can imagine Our Lady speaking. That's some human interpretation.

    I am not talking about Julie Marie. I have not taken the time to read her stuff, etc. I am talking about easy to spot contradictions.

    The link to the store just happened to also have a number of other incorrect or false suggestions for diy how to survive "the 3 days of darkness."

     

    OK, but the misuse or misinterpretation of something Julie Marie did or did not say should have no bearing on her credibility.  That's another thing this priest who wrote that letter of condemnation did, he interwove the words of Julie Marie herself and those of the two French authors, their commentary.  Those also are separate things.  And his denunciations of "heresies" are borderline absurd.  In no way is the "3 days of darkness" heresy.  In no way is the Great Monarch heresy (that too appears in a LOT of Catholic prophecy).  I really would like to know who educated this priest.  Was this another priest from one of the strange, shady Thuc lines that had zero seminary training and is now going around excommunicating people for heresy?

    To me is sounds as if there's some kind of anti-French animus behind his rants.  He so can't stand the thought that the Great Monarch might be French that he declares it a heresy.
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #40 on: January 10, 2022, 04:17:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 10, 2022, 03:47:09 PM
    And I call that you're wrong.  Hawthorne has actually been proven by modern science (before it would have been known to her) to help with circulatory issues and the heart.  Julie Marie herself was not selling anything, but it in fact indicated where people could find Hawthorne in the wild.  So you call BS on the prophecy simply because somebody took a quote and then linked to some store selling Hawthorne?

    I might believe you over her when you show me your stigmata.

    Good points Lad. I agree.
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #41 on: January 10, 2022, 04:35:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anne Evergreen on January 10, 2022, 01:44:03 PM
    Mariano Rampolla | Italian clergyman | Britannica

    This Rampolla? (Not understanding a bunch of things here...)
    This is obvious! Many new poster here come to learn. Maybe you should write less and read more. :facepalm:
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #42 on: January 10, 2022, 04:40:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on January 10, 2022, 04:35:03 PM
    This is obvious! Many new poster here come to learn. Maybe you should write less and read more. :facepalm:
    You don't know how much I read, or when. The fact that I type longer posts is because I have a fairly fast typing speed and prefer to type more in one go rather than having to be repeatedly bothered by notifications to check this, that or the other posting. I don't sit and read every single post, avatar or thread here by each and every thousands of supposed members. I haven't been here 10 years or whatever the average is, and I don't plan to be. So if you happen to have "been here awhile" and you know the lay of the land on everyone, that's great! I don't need to know how to dot every i and cross every t here.


    Have a nice day. :-)
    P.S. There are also many people called Rampolla believe it or not. I was asking for clarification. 
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #43 on: January 10, 2022, 04:51:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on January 10, 2022, 04:17:00 PM
    Good points Lad. I agree.
    Oh boo, dismiss. I never mentioned one word about her stigmata, did I, Matthew?
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    Re: Perpetual Sickness
    « Reply #44 on: January 10, 2022, 04:58:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 10, 2022, 04:06:55 PM
    OK, but the misuse or misinterpretation of something Julie Marie did or did not say should have no bearing on her credibility.  That's another thing this priest who wrote that letter of condemnation did, he interwove the words of Julie Marie herself and those of the two French authors, their commentary.  Those also are separate things.  And his denunciations of "heresies" are borderline absurd.  In no way is the "3 days of darkness" heresy.  In no way is the Great Monarch heresy (that too appears in a LOT of Catholic prophecy).  I really would like to know who educated this priest.  Was this another priest from one of the strange, shady Thuc lines that had zero seminary training and is now going around excommunicating people for heresy?

    To me is sounds as if there's some kind of anti-French animus behind his rants.  He so can't stand the thought that the Great Monarch might be French that he declares it a heresy.
    Again, I have not read her stuff. I don't have immediate plans to do so. And I did not mention that I don't think there is merit to the 3 Days of Darkness, in case you or anyone else was wondering.

    I don't OBSESS about this kind of stuff. I don't sit and drive myself bonkers wondering what-else I need to add to my "list of instructions."

    I don't get into prophecy, because it is TOO EASY to be led down the garden path, and I really don't need to know what each and every mystic said on a Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday. (I don't bother with the whole Faustina stuff either).

    I don't get into Thuc anything either. I don't get into that for the various reasons you have mentioned and then some. :-)
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