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Offline Pelly

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« on: March 08, 2013, 03:09:39 PM »
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  • According to the Monasterians, UFO is a demonic phenomenon. I've seen images of children having deformities that made them to look like aliens. Could it be an explanation for the UFO phenomeon? And did the demons model the UFOs after children with such deformities?


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    « Reply #1 on: March 08, 2013, 03:21:47 PM »
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    According to the Monasterians, UFO is a demonic phenomenon. I've seen images of children having deformities that made them to look like aliens. Could it be an explanation for the UFO phenomeon? And did the demons model the UFOs after children with such deformities?


    Monasterians: do you mean monks?

    St Anthony of the Desert encountered a UFO and bid it: Begone!

    Could what be an explanation for the UFO phenomeon?

    Birth defects have all sorts of explanations and some have none, apart from the fact that we live in a fallen world and nothing is perfect here. Perfection is yet to come in the next world, if we live this life according to His Will.

    I would say there is no connection at all between UFOs and birth defects.
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    « Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 03:35:02 PM »
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  • Most Holy Family Monastery. That's it.
    There are museums with weird birth defects exhibited, like The Chicken Baby of Leipzig or a skeleton of a four months old infant which resembles aliens. I think that demons may source their ideas from these cases to build up aliens.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 03:48:26 PM »
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  • I never read the Dimond brothers' book on UFOs. I wonder if UFOs really are demons.
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    « Reply #4 on: March 09, 2013, 02:31:00 PM »
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    I never read the Dimond brothers' book on UFOs. I wonder if UFOs really are demons.


    If you can get a copy of Jacques Vallee's "Messengers of Deception" you will likely feel it is safe to conclude UFOs are demonic in origin.


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    « Reply #5 on: March 12, 2013, 10:53:45 AM »
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  • UFO's are demonic, just like ghosts and all that other new age BS.  Now, it could be that there are human beings on other planets, but anything sentient and non-human has got to be a demon.  We know this from the Bible.  Human beings are the pinnacle of God's creation, from a material standpoint, otherwise Jesus would not have come as a man.  

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    « Reply #6 on: March 16, 2013, 12:55:26 AM »
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    UFO's are demonic, just like ghosts and all that other new age BS.    


    Not being able to identify a flying object does not make it demonic.

    How can one know the nature of something one cannot identify?

    New Age BS is...BS. It does not lead people to God, but it is not a demon.

    St. Paul in Scripture addresses the nature of idols:

    Quote from: 1 Corinthians 8:1-7


    Now concerning those things that are sacrificed to idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up; but charity edifieth. And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he hath not yet known as he ought to know.  But if any man love God, the same is known by him. But as for the meats that are sacrificed to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no God but one. For although there be that are called gods, either in heaven or on earth (for there be gods many, and lords many).

    Yet to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. But there is not knowledge in every one. For some until this present, with conscience of the idol: eat as a thing sacrificed to an idol, and their conscience, being weak, is defiled.


    Treating idols as if they were real beings was a sign of weakness and ignorance. It was to avoid scandalizing people who were so ignorant and weak that he advised not to eat such meat, however, the idols are stated as being "nothing".

    Now, if an idol or other false "god" reacts, interacts, or otherwise shows power, it is a demon, but human creations are nothing.

    "Aliens" are a popular culture creation, based on TV shows and human desire for entertainment. It appeals to many, and the mentally ill, confused, or otherwise not rational people may make claims about them.

    If some being exhibited unnatural abilities, then we could be suspicious of demonic activity, but to treat these things as legitimate phenomena is not proper or rational.

    We cannot treat the popular conception of alien activity (inter dimension beings, etc) as reflecting any sort of reality. It is Pokemon essentially. Human imagination and entertainment.

    If we had evidence of a fire breathing lizard evolving into a winged dragon-like creature, then we can suspect something, but otherwise, it is a human game, not to be taken seriously in itself.


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    « Reply #7 on: March 16, 2013, 01:02:23 AM »
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    According to the Monasterians, UFO is a demonic phenomenon. I've seen images of children having deformities that made them to look like aliens. Could it be an explanation for the UFO phenomeon? And did the demons model the UFOs after children with such deformities?


    Aliens do not exist.

    If you are referring to the Grey appearance in popular culture, that is based on human design in the first place.

    If we exaggerated human characteristics (large cranium) and our perception of humanity (our inborn focus the basic human face), we would get a Grey. It is something our mind sees.

    We do not see the owl in the dark, but our mind will fill in the gaps using its tendency to see the human form.

    Babies look like "aliens" when they are born most of the time anyway, due to their soft skulls and the trauma of childbirth.

    If you are referring to Hydrocephalus, that is an understood medical condition.

    Image of baby with this condition, not necessarily something all will want to see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hydrocephalus-baby.jpg

    It is a dangerous medical condition often leading to death.

    We are supposed to be rational, not superstitious.



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    « Reply #8 on: March 16, 2013, 08:48:43 AM »
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  • I wonder if someone will try to submit this post to Matthew as being ban-worthy:

    Quoting someone involved in game design:

    What is even more interesting is that if you take the average Asian face, then exaggerate the difference from the average by a large factor (there is a function for this called "caricature") you end up with your stereotypical "grey" alien. Therefore I speculate that Greys are just cartoonish exaggerations of Asian features thrown up by the subconscious mind.

    A lot of the qualities attributed to Greys seem to correspond to negative stereotypes of Asians too: robotic, souless, devoid of emotion materialistic, prone to conducting bizarre experiments and mutilations on humans and animals, desirous of our DNA to create "hybrids" etc.

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    « Reply #9 on: March 16, 2013, 11:47:48 AM »
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  • A devil can take the form of a human or object, so what does that tell you!

    Birth defects are very sad, yet they stir our human souls to compassion, and appreciation for our own healthy children.  If every person was perfect, we would be living in the Garden of Eden.
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    « Reply #10 on: March 16, 2013, 12:09:24 PM »
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    I wonder if someone will try to submit this post to Matthew as being ban-worthy:

    Quoting someone involved in game design:

    What is even more interesting is that if you take the average Asian face, then exaggerate the difference from the average by a large factor (there is a function for this called "caricature") you end up with your stereotypical "grey" alien. Therefore I speculate that Greys are just cartoonish exaggerations of Asian features thrown up by the subconscious mind.

    A lot of the qualities attributed to Greys seem to correspond to negative stereotypes of Asians too: robotic, souless, devoid of emotion materialistic, prone to conducting bizarre experiments and mutilations on humans and animals, desirous of our DNA to create "hybrids" etc.


    Incidentally, the guy who said this is married to a Korean woman.


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    « Reply #11 on: March 17, 2013, 03:25:30 AM »
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    I wonder if someone will try to submit this post to Matthew as being ban-worthy:

    Quoting someone involved in game design:

    What is even more interesting is that if you take the average Asian face, then exaggerate the difference from the average by a large factor (there is a function for this called "caricature") you end up with your stereotypical "grey" alien. Therefore I speculate that Greys are just cartoonish exaggerations of Asian features thrown up by the subconscious mind.

    A lot of the qualities attributed to Greys seem to correspond to negative stereotypes of Asians too: robotic, souless, devoid of emotion materialistic, prone to conducting bizarre experiments and mutilations on humans and animals, desirous of our DNA to create "hybrids" etc.


    Incidentally, the guy who said this is married to a Korean woman.


    The "Grey" appearance varies and I think the basic level of detail it has is a general "human" appearance, so while any particular ethnicity could reach the same result, that does not mean they are the only one.

    Whoever wrote that should be punished though. "Asian"? Does this person think there is an "Asian" race?



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    « Reply #12 on: March 17, 2013, 11:16:15 AM »
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  • What kind of forum substitutes discussion with clicking images?


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    « Reply #13 on: March 17, 2013, 06:45:18 PM »
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  • Most of today's "UFOs" are likely from Area 51.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #14 on: March 17, 2013, 08:14:40 PM »
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  • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
    Most of today's "UFOs" are likely from Area 51.


    I would not be surprised if the UFOs are indeed just secret advanced aircraft owned by the military. I think that is more likely than demonic activity, but who knows what powers the devil has.
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