I have just been diagnosed with ocd and I'm on meds (prozac, klonopin). Since in many circuмstances the will gets weakened to the point in which one can't stop taking some attitudes, I'm wondering whether there is something diabolic related to that. Does anyone have any experience with this?

And, if I may ask, please spare me some prayers.

Prayers your way Jonah  

There may or may not be something from the evil side affecting you Jonah, or there may be simply an mental and chemical issue. Have you consulted your priest (traditional)?

Prayers your way Jonah  

There may or may not be something from the evil side affecting you Jonah, or there may be simply an mental and chemical issue. Have you consulted your priest (traditional)?

Thank you for the prayers s2rea.

There are not too many traditional priests around, but I definitely need to talk to one.

I have just been diagnosed with ocd and I'm on meds (prozac, klonopin). Since in many circuмstances the will gets weakened to the point in which one can't stop taking some attitudes, I'm wondering whether there is something diabolic related to that. Does anyone have any experience with this?

And, if I may ask, please spare me some prayers.

I think modern psychology is kind of silly.  On the one hand it often tries to replace religion with science and on the other hand it often pretends to be scientific, but really isn't.  I think the best way of looking at it is that psychology will at times at least describe the problem accurately.  It may offer some insight into cause or that may just boil down to telling people what they want to hear, for some ulterior motive (usually control or money).  What psychology will practically never offer is a solution, that actually works.  

You can boil psychological disorders down to three basic emotions:  fear, shame and guilt.  All of these are ULTIMATELY resolved in Christ.  Shame = wash in the blood of Christ, Guilt = put the guilt on The Cross, Fear = He is our Savior.  Psychology though doesn't really buy into that.  So, a psychologist tries to come up with other solutions and of course, other causes.  Hence, Freud came up with his anthropological theory (basically saying early man invented morality to protect himself from others committing the same crimes he had, in order to gain power).  Lately, everything is explained with "genetics."  And, I've heard figures from mental health workers, saying that around half of Americans should be on some form of medication for their mental health.  So, there's obviously a monetary motive.  But also, one that involves control.  Moral clarity seems to get in the way of the this regime doing business.  So, I think they have an interest in keeping people from thinking clearly.  

Take for example a person who feels an impulse to stab themselves everytime they see a knife.  It is understandable and laudable for this person to avoid knives, because for them knives become an occasion to sin.  But really, there problem is not genetic, it is self control and that is a character problem, not a biological one.  Giving them some medication seems like it would be a crutch and one that may come with its own problems, particularly with long term use.  Perhaps a person like that feels guilty and wants to  punish themselves or feels hopeless and wants to end it all, but that knife is no real solution to their problems and neither is numbing them out with some kind of drug.  They need to deal with the underlying cause and often they are not consciously aware of what that cause is.  So, they are perplexed and the reasoning skill it would take to track that cause down, they don't have and they aren't being taught to develop and I think that's because it is easier for our ruling regime to take advantage of us if we're kind of stupid.  So, they'd rather dope us up with drugs, than teach us to take care of ourselves.  And, I suppose that appeals to our inclination to sloth or acedia.  

That should be a papal encyclical, Marcelino!

Thanks!  :detective:

  Thanks Darcy I didn't know this before. I always had trouble with my throat and got different types of pains there. Now it explains....

Spouse, what do you mean it "works"?  My mom's pills "worked" for 20 years or so, you see how that ended up.  One day they stopped working and the crash was all the more horrific for being so long in coming.  

It was clear her whole life was just various types of denial -- denying she'd ever have to retire, denying she'd ever be old, not seeking the purpose of existence.  When everything caught up to her, the pills did nothing.  Jesus talks about why when he distinguishes between the house built on sand, and the house built on the rock, on Himself.  He didn't put you here to be happy on a pill; He wants to make you happy.

Maybe there are some people who really need some kind of tranquillizing pill, I'll admit someone who is psychotic probably needs that kind of treatment.  But I'm just as certain that most of the millions of people who are popping antidepressants now do not have anything wrong with their brain chemistry.  They are just giving into the weakness that all humans have without God.  God builds us up by teaching us to suffer and carry the cross, but these quack doctors then come in and say "No!  No crosses!  Just grin like an idiot al the time and give me money for pills!"  They are simply making people sick and weak and unable to stand on their own two feet.  A prayer to St. James would be more effective for these people than Prozac, if they knew who St. James was.

I used to be a major neurotic spaz, so I know what I'm talking about.  It was the way I grew up, the whole culture, the way we indulge ourselves and become soft, as well as our sins.    

My belief is that, when the pill seems to be working, it's just kind of giving you a temporary fix.  It's like slapping fresh paint on a decaying house.  You need to go in and fix up the house first, in most cases.  That is done by letting God rebuild us -- by circuмcising the heart.  If you have a tendency to melancholia, you need to root it out, to do things that will help you overcome melancholia.  Whatever is making you unhappy, go in and find it, then let Christ and Mary eliminate it from your soul.  It is a kind of fatalism to just say "I'm a depressive" and leave it at that, as if you can't change with the help of God.