If you notice that a lot of these multinationals that are around that are in charge of the drug companies used to work DIRECTLY with the nαzιS, THEN you see how they are different from other multinationals. Their business is not "health care," IT IS DEATH DEATH DEATH! They are the harbingers of death. Bayer is one of the big ones.

parentsfortruth said:

If you notice that a lot of these multinationals that are around that are in charge of the drug companies used to work DIRECTLY with the nαzιS, THEN you see how they are different from other multinationals. Their business is not "health care," IT IS DEATH DEATH DEATH! They are the harbingers of death. Bayer is one of the big ones.

You watch too much Alex Jones  :whistleblower:

Their real mantra isn't DEATH DEATH DEATH.  It's MONEY MONEY MONEY.  If death and insanity are a side effect of that, that is just collateral damage.

But if depopulation is really their goal, as you can see, they're not exactly doing a bang-up job.  Plus, "they" is a very small group of people.  Most of the evil in this world is done by those who occupy lower rungs on the pyramid, those who are just "doing their job" and "trying to have a good life" i.e. going along with evil rather than actively instigating it.

Personally, I'd have my kids vaccinated, I think this is a huge red-herring.  I also think the devil is behind lots of the conspiracy-theory crowd.  Not that cօռspιʀαcιҽs aren't real, but you can take it too far and become paranoid and isolated, and that is not godly.  

If I may pat myself on the back, I always denied the link between autisms and vaccinations.  That is because I see things in a spiritual way -- sometimes I go too far, but for me there's always a spiritual cause.  For instance, the increase of autistic and troubled children strikes me as being a result of broken homes and stress and a fractured society in general, a society that has for the most part rejected God.  The overwhelming unhappiness of this society breaks children down and makes them turn inward, they become withdrawn and sink into their own world ( autism, poor social skills, OCD-like behavior ).  That is what I personally believe is happening.  You could also see it as the sins of the fathers being visited on the children -- there's an obvious decline from generation to generation, things are always getting worse.
 
I remember I knew a family where a few of the kids were slow-witted, were mentally undeveloped in some odd way.  The family blamed this on vaccines.  My mother agreed with him.  My personal hunch was that the marriage was not pleasing to God, and that was His form of punishment.  

Now it turns out that was all a fake, the idea that vaccines cause autism.  I can't say that I'm right with my interpretation, either, but it wasn't because of vaccines.

Just use common sense, which means not seeing everything through the lens of "the government is trying to kill me."  The government is trying to suck you dry financially, not kill you, okay?  Unless you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time for one of their Satanic sacrifices a la 9/11...

It is common sense that an antidepressant directly tampers with your brain, but I don't see how a vaccine given once can cause mental retardation.  The main problem with vaccines I'd say is that they themselves can make you sick.  You saw this with the pig-flu scare where more people got sick from the vaccine than from pig-flu.  ( If I may boast a little, just go check my messages.  When everyone was panicking about pig flu, I knew it was a hoax, that it was nothing. )

So you just weigh your chances and make a decison.  I wouldn't take a pig flu vaccine, and I don't get a flu shot.  
But to have my kids vaccinated, if I had kids, is a different story.  I think the risk is greater for NOT having them vaccinated.  It seems absurd to not have kids vaccinated for measles and mumps, for instance, what paranoia!  We all have that vaccination and we're not mental defectives, at least I hope we aren't.  Yet the same evil government was in place in the 60's, 70's and 80's...

I wouldn't put much stock in the "debunking" of the mmr autism link.  

Yes, we need to be getting back to the real, tried and true causes of children born with defects - imperfect marriages.  Ohh, and also, damp southern breezes during conception.

I align with Raoul in how I disagree about the link between autism and vaccines. Sure, vaccines may be created from fetal tissue, etc etc and that's a moral reason why I may avoid having any children I may have from receiving them, but the autism link is a weak one for me. Not going off millions of case studies, but just around me, everyone I know and can recall has been vaccinated, and the children I do have no form of any syndromes and genetic disorders according to their parents.

Remember everyone, its true its true. The devil plays BOTH sides of the truth battle. Conspiracy nuts must be dealt with accordingly and we must all ascertain what is real and true with God by keeping as holy a life as possible (which is actually REALLY holy if we always take the graces God gives us), and staying in line with true Magisterial teaching and Scripture.


 

First it was discerned that mental illness is in reality a spiritual disorder.  Now we learn the same is true of autism. Why don't we just do away with all forms of medical/alternative intervention for  what we misguidedly perceive as health problems, and just trust in the Providence of God and pray our way through them?

St. Luke was a physician, and I doubt that he would object to treating people with modern medicine.  Clearly, some spiritual disorders do result in mental illness, others are chemical, biological, or the result of trauma, both mental and/or physical.

Jehanne -- I was attempting to express sarcasm.  I do agree with your reasonable, common sense approach. The Church from an early era was known for founding hospitals to care for the sick.