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Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
« on: February 15, 2022, 07:26:34 AM »
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  • I live in Detroit Michigan. I attend Mass at Assumption Grotto on Gratiot. Today at confession my priest told me I need to see a psychiatrist. Not a counselor or a therapist. I specifically mentioned my hesitation due to the large possibility a psychiatrist who claims to be Catholic might be a complete heretic who will not be able to help.

    The priest informed me that real Catholic psychiatrists do exist, and he said the only reason he can't recommend one is he is new to this area. Someone please let me know what to do.

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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #1 on: February 15, 2022, 07:43:06 AM »
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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #2 on: February 15, 2022, 07:55:52 AM »
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  • Hopefully someone can help you -- I'll tell you though, "Psychologist" is one of those careers Trads steer clear of, and for good reason. 

    Telling sodomites they have a mental disorder isn't exactly PC these days...

    You have to look for CONVERTS to Tradition who might happen to be psychologists.

    In all my years, I've only met/heard of ONE, who went to the SSPX. He was from Arkansas. He found a niche performing evaluations on defendants when they claimed insanity. 
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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #3 on: February 15, 2022, 08:05:20 AM »
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  • Psychology, while it can help contextualize some things, mostly is there to excuse major vices or even sin and to make it as if evil people do not exist.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #4 on: February 15, 2022, 08:28:19 AM »
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  • Psychology, while it can help contextualize some things, mostly is there to excuse major vices or even sin and to make it as if evil people do not exist.
    Thank you for your concern. As I already stated in my original post, I asked the priest about the oftentimes heretical nature of mental health professionals. He assured me good psychiatrists do exist.

    If Satan cannot invent anything and can only corrupt things which have already been made, then there must be a legitimate usage of psychiatry within the boundaries of Catholic dogma. I've attempted to use psychiatrists before, so I do know from experience there are a lot of quacks out there. However I've never attempted to seek specific doctors out. Zero harm can come to me by meeting with one. At worst I would discover he/she isn't really Catholic and that I have to keep searching.

    Obviously the priest didn't leave my salvation hanging on mental health professionals. Both he and I are aware I have much spiritual work to do.

    I must say, it is severely irritating to me that I asked for help in this area on a forum for Catholics to support each other, and some moron with nothing to contribute to the conversation decided to chime in just to regurgitate something he heard in a youtube video in an attempt to signal his virtue. You have my pity and are in my prayers.


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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #6 on: February 15, 2022, 08:31:26 AM »
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  • Rae is a traditional Catholic psychiatrist that posts on Twitter. She works in Virginia. Maybe she can help you.

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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #7 on: February 15, 2022, 08:47:46 AM »
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  • Dr. Gerry Crete is good. He goes to an Eastern Rite parish in GA. He is a solid Catholic. He's not explicitly a traditionalist, but I never found anything contrary to the faith in him.

    transfigurationcounseling.com

    He is extremely busy, probably because he actually holds the faith, but he does remote counseling via webcam if that's what you need.

    There are definitely some people who are legitimately mentally ill, a lot of it is caused by sin, but there are some valid cases. Fr. Ripperger wrote a whole book on it and has talked about it a lot in his conferences because he holds multiple PhD's in that field in edition to being an exorcist he's seen it all basically. Most traditional Catholic priests would agree that your run of the mill psychologist and psychiatrists are just pill pushers who deny sin, but some people legitimately need help. Catholic marriage counseling can also be good, ideally the priest would do this, but most of them seem to cowardly to point out the faults of their parishioners directly in counseling, and for some reason most of them avoid it, I don't understand it. So they force their parishioners to spend their hard-earned money on someone else. I think marriage counseling can be helpful, sometimes one party of the marriage is not looking at themselves objectively and has totally tuned out their spouses legitimate criticisms and probably won't listen unless a 3rd party said "yes, you're wrong here" or "yes, your spouse is correct on this, you need to correct that fault."


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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #8 on: February 15, 2022, 09:50:56 AM »
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  • I must say, it is severely irritating to me that I asked for help in this area on a forum for Catholics to support each other, and some moron with nothing to contribute to the conversation decided to chime in just to regurgitate something he heard in a youtube video in an attempt to signal his virtue. You have my pity and are in my prayers.
    My apologies. That was more of a response to Matthew than your subject at large. I should've quoted him.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #9 on: February 15, 2022, 09:52:11 AM »
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  • I live in Detroit Michigan. I attend Mass at Assumption Grotto on Gratiot. Today at confession my priest told me I need to see a psychiatrist. Not a counselor or a therapist. I specifically mentioned my hesitation due to the large possibility a psychiatrist who claims to be Catholic might be a complete heretic who will not be able to help.

    The priest informed me that real Catholic psychiatrists do exist, and he said the only reason he can't recommend one is he is new to this area. Someone please let me know what to do.
    Most of the responses so far have been dealing with psychologists, but you mention that the priest specifically said a PSYCHIATRIST, not a therapist (psychologist).  

    There is a big difference and most seem to be ignorant of that difference.

    A psychiatrist is a physician first and foremost.  He may or may not engage in talk therapy, but he will absolutely be engaged in the use of medication and will be looking at medical issues first and foremost.  It seems the priest is suggesting you may need some sort of medical treatment.  

    Please make sure to seek out a Catholic PSYCHIATRIST.   The psychiatrist may suggest that you also see a therapist (psychologist, social worker, etc) separately.

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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #10 on: February 15, 2022, 09:57:15 AM »
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  • Yeah Marcellinus is 100% correct. If he wants you to seek a psychiatrist, you may need to. I've known people in the past who have come to the parish who legitimately needed psychiatric care, they had "the crazy eyes". There are legitimate use-cases for medical treatment of psychiatrists.

    Getting a pill cause you're "depressed" is not one of those. I'm talking about a form of psychosis, or some other true brain ailment that needs treatment. They do exist.


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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #11 on: February 15, 2022, 02:52:54 PM »
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  • Kinda curious to know why he wants you to see a psychiatrist.  Is it because you're suffering from some type of hallucination, or because you can see that your government is corrupted?

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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #12 on: February 15, 2022, 03:14:36 PM »
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  • Does the priest know the difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist?  Maybe you misheard him?  Is the priest qualified to make that determination?  Sometimes untrained people will just blurt out, "you need a psychiatrist!" whenever they disagree with someone's religious beliefs.  It was common for Novus Ordo bishops to send priests to therapy who didn't need it.  If you suspect the priest might be right, you can go to a psychologist first and they can evaluate you and determine if you need a psychiatrist.  The Novus Ordo priest Chad Ripperger might be able to give you the name of a good psychologist in your area.

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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #13 on: February 15, 2022, 03:43:31 PM »
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  • I live in Detroit Michigan. I attend Mass at Assumption Grotto on Gratiot. Today at confession my priest told me I need to see a psychiatrist. Not a counselor or a therapist. I specifically mentioned my hesitation due to the large possibility a psychiatrist who claims to be Catholic might be a complete heretic who will not be able to help.

    The priest informed me that real Catholic psychiatrists do exist, and he said the only reason he can't recommend one is he is new to this area. Someone please let me know what to do.

    Psychiatrists provide treatment typically medication, sometimes therapy, sometimes both. 

    But psychiatry is definitely the medical model, you have x and y symptoms you probably have this disorder, we're going to have you take these medications to control your symptoms and go to therapy to learn new coping skills. 

    Psychology is different, and I don't know much about it.

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    Re: Non-woke Catholic psychiatrists
    « Reply #14 on: February 16, 2022, 07:09:33 AM »
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  • Psychologists study how the mind works.
    Neurologists study how the brain works.
    Psychiatrists study how the brain and mind interact.