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Offline Binechi

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« on: April 04, 2014, 09:43:57 AM »
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  • THIS is how it looked on the outflow of the dams



    AND THIS IS HOW IT LOOKED BEHIND THE DAMS IN 2011, THEY WERE CHOCK FULL TO THE BRIM, AND STILL THE GROWERS GOT NO WATER:



     

    CHECK MATE, THE ENEMY OF AMERICA, THE nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr AGENDA 21 ZIONIST, HAS BEEN BUSTED. HOW CAN YOU GO FROM HAVING THE DAMS BE LIKE THIS, ABOVE, IN 2011, GIVE THE GROWERS NO WATER AND THEN HAVE THE DAMS LOOK LIKE THIS, BELOW IN 2013? THEY DON'T JUST DRY UP, YOU ARE BUSTED.


    My guess for all of this? It is possible they are bankrupting all the growers by killing all the legacy trees via denial of water, trees which are not GMO, so that one billionaire can move into the valley, buy it all, plant it entirely with GMO and ram GMO down America's throat.  It could also be that they are planning a mass starvation of the American people, and the San Joaquin, which produces practically everything from almonds to grapes to strawberries to oranges, enough for much of the world, has to be killed before they can actually succeed in starving America. With much of what the San Joaquin produces, you can't get it back in a year, it will take decades so it won't do any good to just start managing the water properly once everyting is dead, it will take years to come back. By then the starve off will have been accomplished.



    UPDATE:
    They responded to this article QUICKLY. There is no underground water left as some state, all of it was pumped out in 2009 and 2010 to save the orchards when they cut the water off, and now the ocean has back flowed all the way to the valley and they can only pump salt. The water is GONE. And WHY was the San Joaquin at flood stage for three consecutive years during a "drought" if they were not letting the dams go to kill the San Joaquin valley ON PURPOSE as I clearly show below?

    DO NOT fall for the lies which have been and will no doubt continue to be hatched to bury this act of war, a little common sense will go a LONG WAY here. The original reason for the water shortage was to save the "delta smelt", and they evolved it into a lie about a drought which never happened. The truth is that in the bay there were salinity problems with certain species due to too much fresh water entering the bay. Its all docuмented here folks, read it and weep for the California Orange.


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    « Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 09:58:41 AM »
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  • No more Californian Oranges...

    Intentionally done to cut off food supply from California..  Agenda 21

    Oranges , Grapes Almonds.  

    Water pumped out to the ocean ,,, Fresh water replaced eventually with salt water..



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    « Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 10:51:00 AM »
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    I don't have any pictures, but I have what I heard on a radio program recently.  There was a California state representative on the show (I don't recall his name) who explained where the water was going in CA reservoirs.  He said this water was and has been held for use in agriculture, when rainfall is insufficient for a time.  Right now, the state is in its 3rd year of drought conditions.

    He said that water that normally would be used for crops is being sent to L.A. for literal dumping into the ocean.  Why would they dump irrigation water into the ocean?  

    It's because of environ-mental-ists, who have complained and LOBBIED, for the protection of a small fish, the "harbor smelt," which thrives in fresh water inlets to salt water oceans.  This small, minnow or herring-sized fish is useless for any industry, and its existence or disappearance on the CA shores would have no consequence to man or fish or bird or beast.  There are PLENTY of other species of fishes that live in these waters.  But that's unimportant to environmentalists.  They're selectively principled, you see.  

    They have managed to evoke legislation that diverts ag-water reserves to be sent via aqueduct down to L.A. rivers, so that the water can be flushed down the stormwash drain, to ensure the survival of useless fishes.  This has been going on for the past 3 years.  He said that now we have the curious spectacle of people standing in line for vegetables from CHINA, when they are migrant farm workers who are unemployed because there are no vegetables to pick in the most prolific farmland for vegetables in America.  The reason there are no vegetables is, there has been no water for irrigation, because the water is being used to dump into the ocean to keep the environmentalists happy, or, that is, to keep them from crying too much -- which would generate more water, ironically.


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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #3 on: April 04, 2014, 10:52:30 AM »
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  • Where are the BOATS???





    Here is the CAR!!!



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    « Reply #4 on: April 04, 2014, 11:56:48 AM »
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  • I saw a docuмentary recently, in which it was stated that Las Vegas will be a ghost town again - sooner rather than later - due to a lack of water. The mighty U.S. empire will eventually meet the same fate as that of the Roman empire.
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    « Reply #5 on: April 04, 2014, 03:23:32 PM »
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  • Notice rainfall map,  and full resivours,  
    Also notice how HARP, played a role in weather patern for that period ..

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    « Reply #6 on: May 05, 2014, 01:20:16 PM »
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  • Quote from: Charlemagne (Apr 4, 2014, 12:56 pm)
    I saw a docuмentary recently, in which it was stated that Las Vegas will be a ghost town again--
    sooner rather than later--due to a lack of water.

    Why would you need a "docuмentary" to forecast that?   Of course there's a lack of water in Las Vegas: It's a metro area that's attracted absurd population growth in a brain-scrambling desert!    An arid  ecosystem comparable to the rest of Nevada, and most--if not all--of Arizona, New Mexico, and Utah.  Just look at a map!

    Now that I've blown off some steam, might the "docuмentary" have been Cadillac Desert (1996 or 1997), derived from Marc Reisner's nonfiction book with the same title (1986, revised 1993)?  The latter might still be the premier credible source on Western-U.S. water-&-irrigation history & issues.   Yes, even despite Reisner's long involvement with--and presumable professional debt and apparent marital debt to--the, ummm, less-credible Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC).

    If there's a largish metro area in the U.S.A. more expendable than Las Vegas, I don't know which other one it would be.  It consumes money and water, but it doesn't produce any tangible products that are necessary to the growth--much less the subsistence or survival--of the U.S.A.   Assuming that we can exclude vice-focused tourism from being regarded as a "product".

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    « Reply #7 on: May 05, 2014, 01:42:30 PM »
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  • Quote from: Charlemagne
    I saw a docuмentary recently, in which it was stated that Las Vegas will be a ghost town again - sooner rather than later - due to a lack of water. The mighty U.S. empire will eventually meet the same fate as that of the Roman empire.


    If by that you mean that the Church will once again rise up out of the ashes of a godless empire, I'm all for it!


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    « Reply #8 on: May 05, 2014, 01:45:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: AlligatorDicax
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    Now that I've blown off some steam, might the "docuмentary" have been Cadillac Desert (1996 or 1997), derived from Marc Reisner's nonfiction book with the same title (1986, revised 1993)?  The latter might still be the premier credible source on Western-U.S. water-&-irrigation history & issues.   Yes, even despite Reisner's long involvement with--and presumable professional debt and apparent marital debt to--the, ummm, less-credible Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC).

    Thanks AD-

    I think this must be the docuмentary you were talking about:


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    « Reply #9 on: May 17, 2014, 02:33:56 AM »
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  • Quote from: AlligatorDicax

    If there's a largish metro area in the U.S.A. more expendable than Las Vegas, I don't know which other one it would be.  It consumes money and water, but it doesn't produce any tangible products that are necessary to the growth--much less the subsistence or survival--of the U.S.A.   Assuming that we can exclude vice-focused tourism from being regarded as a "product".

     

    No matter what is "produced" in Vegas, the problem is there are no exports, and the reason for that is,




    "What Happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas."







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    « Reply #10 on: May 17, 2014, 09:10:24 AM »
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    No matter what is "produced" in Vegas, the problem is there are no exports, and the reason for that is,


    Las Vegas exports smiles.


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    « Reply #11 on: May 17, 2014, 10:01:48 AM »
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  • Quote from: AlligatorDicax
    might the "docuмentary" have been Cadillac Desert (1996 or 1997), derived from Marc Reisner's nonfiction book with the same title (1986, revised 1993)?  The latter might still be the premier credible source on Western-U.S. water-&-irrigation history & issues.

    I was planning on watching that docuмentary.  Is there something about it that's doubtful?
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #12 on: July 11, 2014, 10:01:35 PM »
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    Quote from: AlligatorDicax
    might the "docuмentary" have been Cadillac Desert (1996 or 1997), derived from Marc Reisner's nonfiction book with the same title (1986, revised 1993)?  The latter might still be the premier credible source on Western-U.S. water-&-irrigation history & issues.

    I was planning on watching that docuмentary.  Is there something about it that's doubtful?


    This docuмentary (in 9 segments) covers a wide range of stories, centered on the history of water rights and supply acquisition for Los Angeles during the 20th century.  It seems to be fairly accurate as far as I can tell at first glance, however, it leaves out one detail that I have on personal testimony from an eyewitness.  In segment 6, where they describe the armed agents who came from L.A. into the Owens Valley to 'protect' the Mulholland Aqueduct, they don't give much information about that whole scene.  

    And earlier, when they say at several points that L.A. agents quietly "bought up water rights" they left out explaining that among the tactics they used to 'negotiate' was to show up at the front door of ranchers' homes, and at gunpoint, demanded water rights.  Maybe viewers wouldn't nave believed that.  

    The part where they say that very large fruits and produce grew in the Owens Valley is true.  There are standard crates for shipment of Bartlett pears, for example, that measure about 20" x 14" x 12" high.  These normally hold 24 pears.  In 1933, truckers were driving from Farmer's Market in L.A. up to Owens Valley via Cajon Pass (now I 15) to pick up these crates of pears, with a difference:  the pears were so large that only 6 would fit in a box.  That means they were about the size of a regulation football.  

    Apparently the climate in Owens Valley is ideal for growing fruits and vegetables.  But it can't be done without a reliable source of water.  Ironically, the Sierra Nevada snowpack is right next door, and the snow melt runoff is very reliable (usually).  

    What the docuмentary can't show (because it was made before this happened) is the problem we've been having since a few years ago, beginning around 2008, when the winter snowpack in the Sierras has been declining, such that the runoff from melting snow in the summer has been dwindling.  This is the cause of our current water shortage, which is arguably the worst in California history.  

    The movie only briefly describes the army engineering style construction projects that built the Mulholland Aqueduct and the MWD Colorado River project.  It was a major operation with literally thousands of men in front lines style work crews, digging trenches, building forms and pouring concrete.  All construction trades were employed especially electrical, plumbing, mechanical and carpentry.  There could be a whole fleet of movies just on that story alone.

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    « Reply #13 on: July 11, 2014, 10:11:20 PM »
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    Woops. Typo:  Maybe viewers wouldn't nave believed that.  (should say "have" not nave.)


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    « Reply #14 on: July 11, 2014, 10:34:07 PM »
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    Here is a pic of an old Bartlett pear crate.  These things were hauled around by the truckload, with many designs and labels.  Today, well-preserved originals sell for over $100.  






    Try to imagine pears so big that only 6 of them could fit in this box:  3 staggered on the bottom and 3 on top, with padding in between to protect from bruising.


    Placerville is fairly close to Owens Valley, right adjacent to Lake Tahoe:


    (El Dorado County, Placerville in red)


    Here's another one -- although Lake County is north of San Francisco, still, the crate dimensions were standard size (apparently 4/5 bushel).





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