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No more "Farmed" meat, dairy, or fish for me. I am boycotting.
« on: December 22, 2014, 10:16:54 PM »
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  • I am not a meat eater.  I will eat it in an emergency, but outside of that event which is unlikely, I abstain.  I also do not consume much dairy.  I would say that 90% of the time I have an opportunity or desire to consume some, I don't.  I  also do not really eat fish, for reasons that up until now I don't feel like providing.  That is my background.

    Now, after reading todays RT article about pig farms - http://www.rt.com/usa/216571-pig-waste-pollution-drone/ - (they dispose of the feces by turning it into a liquid and spraying into the air so that it drifts/affects those downwind), it got me researching into what I vaguely know about and suspect in the animal industry.  And, that is, that the meat and dairy that westerners consume is the fruit of cruelty, bestiality(they stick their arm up the cows rear end to stimulate it to reproduce so that its offspring can continue in its miserable condition and tradition).  For these reasons, I am truly boycotting and going to enjoy squashing the lust of those who indulge in this at best expensive meal option.  There are much healthier better solutions.  

    Now, the main reason that I am posting this is because I want to share with you a great docuмentary on "fish" farms.  This is something that I basically am learning about for the first time.  And, it is just as criminal as what is going on in the animal farms.  It is serious.  Here it is.  It is about the problems that fish farms are creating in canada.  It is worth watching the whole thing.  I know, we are busy.  But if you have time, it is good.

    "A secure mind is like a continual feast" - Proverbs xv: 15


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    « Reply #1 on: December 22, 2014, 10:58:36 PM »
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  • For the ignorant downthumber, deliberately stimulating an animal is bestiality.  And, cutting off the tails of cows serves no purpose whatsoever.  It is cruel.  

    "A secure mind is like a continual feast" - Proverbs xv: 15


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    « Reply #2 on: December 22, 2014, 11:01:45 PM »
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  • As for the fish farms, the docuмentary is about how the farmed fish are introducing diseases into the waters that wild fish swim in.  These diseases are killing enormous amounts of the wild fish that swim through or in the waters near the fish farms.  The docuмentary is extremely informative and in fact entertaining.  It has somewhat of a happy ending feel to it.  
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    « Reply #3 on: December 22, 2014, 11:32:08 PM »
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  • It feels weird to use the word entertaining concerning the docuмentary.  But, it is gripping.  It pulled me in and took me for a wild ride that is turning out well for those putting effort into cleaning up this industry.  It was a pleasure to watch, despite there being plenty of doom and gloom.
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    « Reply #4 on: December 22, 2014, 11:38:06 PM »
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    For the ignorant downthumber, deliberately stimulating an animal is bestiality.


    I'm the downthumber.  Your calling me ignorant is hilarious, because you clearly have no idea what is going on, and that comment is the most laughable one of all.  When they insert their arm into a cow in that manner, they are doing one of two things.  Either they are artificially inseminating the cow, and have to have an arm in the cow's rectum to feel the proper place in the reproductive tract to put the semen, or they are using it as sort of an ultrasound replacement by feeling the womb of the cow to see if she has a calf in there, and to guess at the age of it, and therefore a rough estimate of its due date, by its size.  This doesn't stimulate the cow in any way and it is often somewhat unpleasant for the person doing it.  I know cattle ranchers and have seen this being done in person.  Have you?

    Do some real research before spreading your false assumptions, please.  


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    « Reply #5 on: December 23, 2014, 01:35:47 PM »
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  • Latinmassfan - I saw video of this.  It was many years ago.  But, I remember it.  And, I am almost certain that that was the practice/intention.  Because, it was a male.

    I know that they artificially inseminate like you mentioned.  And, since you claim some expertise, please explain how they are getting their semen.  

    I think that the bottom line of this is that man is involved in the sɛҳuąƖ acts of beasts in an unnatural way.  It is categorized as artificial(unnatural).

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    « Reply #6 on: December 23, 2014, 02:34:58 PM »
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    Latinmassfan - I saw video of this.  It was many years ago.  But, I remember it.  And, I am almost certain that that was the practice/intention.  Because, it was a male.

    I know that they artificially inseminate like you mentioned.  And, since you claim some expertise, please explain how they are getting their semen.  

    I think that the bottom line of this is that man is involved in the sɛҳuąƖ acts of beasts in an unnatural way.  It is categorized as artificial(unnatural).



    The vast majority of people involved in artificial insemination and rectal palpation for pregnancy detection are, in fact, male.  It's a job that requires a fair bit of strength and generally women are just not drawn to it.  You can't be certain that something like that was going on because you have no idea what was going on.  Doing that doesn't stimulate the cow to reproduce, period.  I find it rather despicable that you are making such insinuations without any evidence whatsoever.  

    Semen is collected by bulls that are trained to mount dummy cows and the semen is naturally deposited, by the bull, in an artificial reproductive tract.  There is nothing sinful going on in this.  Absolutely nothing.  

    I am not an expert.  I do not do any of these things personally.  I just know where to find the actual facts about these things, and PETA videos, or whatever you were watching, are not good sources if you want the truth.  Now, you may argue if you please that artificial insemination is bad because [fill in the blank with your argument], but please do not accuse people of committing gravely sinful acts when you have no proof of it.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 23, 2014, 06:52:40 PM »
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  • latinmassfan - I was referring to the cow being a male, not the person.  I saw this about a decade ago, so who knows how old the practice was/is.  But, just because the modern practice is cold and calculated doesn't mean that it is better or even acceptable.  It perhaps means that it is even worse.  Revolutions start by exploiting the passions, and progress towards the cold and calculated.  The pale horse is the last of the four.  Lukewarm believers are vomited out.  So, I do have an opinion about all of this.  Thanks be to God.

    And, a reminder.  I want people to watch the fish farming video I linked at the bottom of my OP.  It is really good and educational.  

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    « Reply #8 on: December 23, 2014, 07:07:09 PM »
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    latinmassfan - I was referring to the cow being a male, not the person.  I saw this about a decade ago, so who knows how old the practice was/is.  But, just because the modern practice is cold and calculated doesn't mean that it is better or even acceptable.  It perhaps means that it is even worse.  Revolutions start by exploiting the passions, and progress towards the cold and calculated.  The pale horse is the last of the four.  Lukewarm believers are vomited out.  So, I do have an opinion about all of this.  Thanks be to God.

    And, a reminder.  I want people to watch the fish farming video I linked at the bottom of my OP.  It is really good and educational.  



    What does artificial insemination have to do with lukewarm believers?  And how is it cold and calculated or an exploitation of passions?  It's merely a way to breed a cow without having to have a bull immediately around.  Is bottle feeding a calf intrinsically evil?  It too isn't natural.  

    I am sorry for misunderstanding about the animal in question being male, but you kept using cow, which implies a female animal.  That, however, makes even less sense with regards to your theory because there is no way that would, again, stimulate it.  

    There is nothing against Catholic teaching regarding this, so I am inclined to think that judicious use of it perfectly within our rights, having dominion over the earth.  

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    « Reply #9 on: January 02, 2015, 11:59:13 PM »
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  • +PG+, no need to give up the essential nutrition of meat and dairy, go local.  Grass fed and free range animals and their products are delicious and valuable to the body.
    Know your farmer.  Most are extremely humane in how they raise and slaughter their animals, which makes good business sense - the meat, etc is much more flavorful.
    www.eatwild.com
    http://www.localharvest.org/

    On the other hand, I was recently in a discussion re: fish farms. It pays to be aware of the source of your food.  I presume you are in N. America?  If not, the dropdown menu will allow you to select your region for limited recommendations.
    http://www.cleanfish.com/upstream/bioregion-north-america

    Happy, holy 2015, my friend. :cheers:

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    « Reply #10 on: January 06, 2015, 02:06:21 AM »
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  • Fish farms are not dangerous, I have previously seen that video and done research on it.  That video does not even prove that those fish farms are the reason why wild fish are dying.  
    Even if those fish farms are the cause of wild fish dying who cares?  The purpose of animals is to serve us.  Fish farms makes fish cheaper and more available - fish farming has been around since the book of Job was written.  Fish like other animals die in large numbers at different points in history at specific centralized locations and the reasons are largely unknown to us.  

    I am no expert in the points you brought up about the cows/bulls but I do actually think you might be right.  I personally believe that animal husbandry should be as natural as possible, while at the same time being able to control reproduction schedules.  If a Man stimulates an animal in order for the animal to get pregnant, even though it is not sɛҳuąƖ - I think it very well could be bestiality.  Now I am not sure that any animal is reproduced in that way anyways.  

    Aside from Bestiality, Man can do anything he wants to an animal.  'Animal cruelty and animal fighting' have been imprinted on modern humans as being one of the greatest evils in society!  What a joke!

    No where in Catholic theology does it restrain what Man can do towards an animal, besides bestiality.  - - - I am an animal lover, as they are God's creature and they are beautiful and majestic, one of my favorite places to go is the zoo, but Man can do whatever they want with animals (besides bestiality), they are completely at our will.


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    « Reply #11 on: January 06, 2015, 03:14:00 AM »
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  • Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
    +PG+, no need to give up the essential nutrition of meat and dairy, go local.  Grass fed and free range animals and their products are delicious and valuable to the body.
    Know your farmer.  Most are extremely humane in how they raise and slaughter their animals, which makes good business sense - the meat, etc is much more flavorful.
    www.eatwild.com
    http://www.localharvest.org/



    6 rib eye steaks to feed a family only cost $150

    At those prices even I might become vegetarian.


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    « Reply #12 on: January 06, 2015, 08:23:05 AM »
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  • What a strange thread. I wonder what the OP thinks about prostate exams.

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    « Reply #13 on: January 06, 2015, 08:35:35 AM »
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  • It's all well and good until some pig in Mexico breaks loose and defecates on a head of lettuce which doesn't get thrown out before being gathered up with the others and sent off to a supermarket chain near you.
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    « Reply #14 on: January 06, 2015, 09:04:15 AM »
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    Semen is collected by bulls that are trained to mount dummy cows and the semen is naturally deposited, by the bull, in an artificial reproductive tract.  There is nothing sinful going on in this.  Absolutely nothing.  

     

    Actually they use  electro-ejaculation to stimulate the bull.   The device goes by the brand name  Electrojac. Modern farmers basically rape their animals with electric devices.  Nothing natural about it.