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Offline SeanJohnson

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No Corona Test = No Freedom in Washington
« on: May 14, 2020, 10:57:35 PM »
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  • Who the hell does this guy think he is?
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/washington-gov-those-who-dont-cooperate-with-contact-tracers-and-tests-not-allowed-to-leave-home

    Washington gov: Those who don’t cooperate with ‘contact tracers’ and tests not allowed to leave home
    The state will provide 'family support personnel' to check in on the non-compliant.
    Thu May 14, 2020 - 4:38 pm EST


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    PETITION: No to mandatory contact tracing and government surveillance for the coronavirus! Sign the petition here.
    OLYMPIA, Washington, May 14, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Washington Governor Jay Inslee said that people who “refuse to cooperate with contact tracers” or refuse coronavirus testing won’t be allowed to leave their homes even to go to the grocery store or pharmacy.
    “When it comes to contact tracing, how are you guys going to handle people or families who want to refuse to test or to self isolate? If they want to leave their home to get groceries I know you’ve said they can’t do that; how will you make sure they don’t?” a reporter asked him.

    “We will have attached to the families a family support person who will check in with them to see what they need on a daily basis,” he responded. “If they can’t get a friend to do their grocery shopping, we will help get them groceries in some fashion. If they need pharmaceuticals to be picked up, we will make sure they get their pharmaceuticals… That’s going to help encourage them to maintain their isolation too.”
    “Therefore, those individuals that refuse to cooperate with contact tracers and/or refuse testing, those individuals will not be allowed to leave their homes to purchase basic necessities such as groceries and/or prescriptions. Those persons will need to make arrangements through friends, family, or a state provided ‘family support personnel,’” the Lynwood Times summarized.
    Inslee announced that as the state begins to relax restrictions and open up its economy, health officials will focus on contact tracing and isolation of infected individuals with the help of over 1,300 newly trained “contact tracers” who will begin work this Friday, May 15.    
    Critics were quick to point out disturbing aspects of the new effort in the Evergreen State.

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    For those individuals that refuse to cooperate with contact tracers and/or refuse testing, will not be allowed to leave their homes to purchase basic necessities such as groceries and/or prescriptions.https://lynnwoodtimes.com/2020/05/12/governor-inslee-lays-out-statewide-contact-tracing-plan-for-covid-19/ …


    Governor Inslee lays out statewide contact tracing plan for COVID-19 - Lynnwood Times
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    “There’s no death penalty in Washington state for murder,” tweeted civil liberties lawyer Eric Rhein.  
    “Now [Governor Inslee] is claiming authority to slowly starve you if you don’t conform,” added Rhein. “Without trial.”[/font][/size]

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    For those individuals that refuse to cooperate with contact tracers and/or refuse testing, will not be allowed to leave their homes to purchase basic necessities such as groceries and/or prescriptions.https://lynnwoodtimes.com/2020/05/12/governor-inslee-lays-out-statewide-contact-tracing-plan-for-covid-19/ …


    Governor Inslee lays out statewide contact tracing plan for COVID-19 - Lynnwood Times
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    There’s no death penalty in Washington state for murder.  Now he’s claiming authority to slowly starve you if you don’t conform.  Without trial.


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    For those individuals that refuse to cooperate with contact tracers and/or refuse testing, will not be allowed to leave their homes to purchase basic necessities such as groceries and/or prescriptions.https://lynnwoodtimes.com/2020/05/12/governor-inslee-lays-out-statewide-contact-tracing-plan-for-covid-19/ …


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    Scary stuff. so you will be under house arrest without due process. nothing illegal there.


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    ‘Box in the virus’
    “This initiative is robust, it is vigorous and it is comprehensive, and it needs to be all three to be all three of those to succeed,” said Inslee in a video conference.  
    He noted that the initiative will be “on a much grander scale” than similar past initiatives which traced the relationships and personal interactions of individuals with infectious diseases such as tuberculosis and hepatitis. He did not mention HIV/AIDS.
    “If we do not succeed in this second stage of our efforts, this virus could come right back out and bite us,” asserted Inslee.  
    While social distancing was the primary tactic employed to slow the spread of the virus during the early days of the pandemic, Inslee said that as the state moves to open up the economy, “testing, contact tracing, and isolation of people who are infected,” will now the become major tools of government authorities.
    During his presentation, Inslee incorporated a series of graphics to illustrate aspects of the new phase.  


    Inslee said the goal is to “box in the virus.”
    “When someone tests positive for COVID-19, an interviewer will reach out by phone,” according to information released by the governor’s office. “They will ask who that person has been in close contact with, then reach out to those other people to let them know they have been exposed. People testing positive and their close contacts would need to confine themselves at home. This plan involves contacting people within 24 hours of a positive test result and talking to their close contacts within 48 hours.”

    The governor assured the citizens of Washington that all information collected is confidential and will not be shared. Persons identified as having had contact with an infected individual will not be told the name of the individual.  
    “These professional interviewers will ask about symptoms, recent exposure and demographic questions such as age, address, gender and ethnicity,” according to the governor’s published statement.
    An army of government ‘tracers’ including the National Guard
    The most ambitious component of the plan is the 1,371 army of people trained and tasked with “contact tracing,” who will be unleashed later this week.

    At the start, the 390 members of the Department of Licensing and the 630 State and local health professionals will be aided by 351 members of the National Guard. The Guardsmen will be phased out once more workers and volunteers are trained and able to replace them.  
    Isolation and quarantine
    “At the sign of any symptoms, people should confine themselves at home. Voluntary confinement for both ill persons and the members of their households will be a major challenge, but it is one of the most critical portions of this entire endeavor,” explained Inslee.

    “Individuals and their households will need to be confined for 14 days if they are exposed to the virus. We know this will present challenges for some families and we are looking at ways to address them,” he added.
    For those who refuse to comply with the new guidelines, Inslee said they will face sanctions either in civil or criminal court.
    Inslee’s remarks came as other government measures around the country and the globe have come under fire for explicitly violating basic constitutional rights.
    Last month, U.S. Attorney General William Barr said that stay-at-home orders are “unprecedented burdens on civil liberties.”
    “The idea that you have to stay in your house is disturbingly close to house arrest,” said Barr. “It’s very onerous, as is shutting down your livelihood.”  
    As if to prove the Attorney General’s point, last month it was revealed that Kentucky residents who refuse to quarantine themselves were being outfitted with ankle bracelets, identical to those criminals confined to house arrest must wear.[/font][/size]
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    Offline Kazimierz

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    Re: No Corona Test = No Freedom in Washington
    « Reply #1 on: May 15, 2020, 10:15:26 AM »
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  • “Unlike me, many of you have accepted the situation of your imprisonment, and will die here like rotten cabbages.” Number 6

    (More than fifty years later this series retains its poignancy in this Covid crazy world.”

    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster


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    Prisoner/Re: No Corona Test = No Freedom in Washington
    « Reply #2 on: May 15, 2020, 01:33:09 PM »
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  • “Unlike me, many of you have accepted the situation of your imprisonment, and will die here like rotten cabbages.”
    --Number 6

    ( "More than fifty years later this series retains its poignancy in this Covid crazy world.”

    Good grief, man!  Have a heart!  It seems likely that just about the only CathInfo readers who have even a vague idea of your terse reference would be elderly enough to have received First Communion before Vatican II.  That leaves out an awful lot of readers, possibly including CathInfo's own owner-moderator (apparently born ca. late 1970s).

    That series from fifty years ago is the surreal The Prisoner t.v. drama from Britain:

    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061287/>.

    The man you pictured is the series-creator, protagonist, and star, Patrick McGoohan, as "Number 6" (because the only names that any prisoner there was allowed was his number as an inmate):

    <https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001526/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm>.

    Altho' the overall plots of the episodes were simple enough, the series was too surreal to hold my interest as a mid teen. That's in the context of competition from other British spy-focused entertainment of the times, like the James Bond books and movies, when a teen could improve his coolness factor by being able to comment knowledgeably on a Bond movie, "but that (scene, device, weapon, &c.) wasn't in the book".

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    Re: Prisoner/Re: No Corona Test = No Freedom in Washington
    « Reply #3 on: May 15, 2020, 02:13:27 PM »
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  • Good grief, man!  Have a heart!  It seems likely that just about the only CathInfo readers who have even a vague idea of your terse reference would be elderly enough to have received First Communion before Vatican II.  That leaves out an awful lot of readers, possibly including CathInfo's own owner-moderator (apparently born ca. late 1970s).

    That series from fifty years ago is the surreal The Prisoner t.v. drama from Britain:

    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061287/>.

    The man you pictured is the series-creator, protagonist, and star, Patrick McGoohan, as "Number 6" (because the only names that any prisoner there was allowed was his number as an inmate):

    <https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001526/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm>.

    Altho' the overall plots of the episodes were simple enough, the series was too surreal to hold my interest as a mid teen. That's in the context of competition from other British spy-focused entertainment of the times, like the James Bond books and movies, when a teen could improve his coolness factor by being able to comment knowledgeably on a Bond movie, "but that (scene, device, weapon, &c.) wasn't in the book".
    Perhaps I am delving into obscure media. Well no I am dipping into odd tv stuff. Sigh.
    At least you got the reference so I don’t feel too bad. The Prisoner is one of my favourite series that I go back time and again to watch. I was born the year it came out and discovered it when the local PBS station began showing it. 
    I will now slink back into my polar bear sized Hobbit hole. :sleep:
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster

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    Re: Prisoner/Re: No Corona Test = No Freedom in Washington
    « Reply #4 on: May 15, 2020, 04:13:45 PM »
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  • … It seems likely that just about the only CathInfo readers who have even a vague idea of your terse reference would be elderly enough to have received First Communion before Vatican II. That leaves out an awful lot of readers …

    I hope you aren't suggesting, dear AD, that this is a bad thing. Ah, if only!

    Whimsicality aside, surely it's well past time that a halt was called here at CathInfo to the making of implicitly friendly or sympathetic or commendatory references to television programs. Since as long ago as the late 1940s—that is, the early days of television as a mass medium of self-proclaimed entertainment—the medium's programming has served as the cutting edge of the Christophobic Establishment's attack on the Faith itself and on the high and popular cultures of the West that were, in their worthwhile aspects at least, by-products of the Faith. It is no mere play on words to note that for the past seventy years, television programming has been central to the enterprise of programming almost everyone's mind.

    Can it truly be said that any television program of the past or present—The Prisoner, for example—has anything of enduring value, indeed anything but the occasional moment or two of cleverness, to offer a Christian, let alone a serious Catholic, who seeks a little innocent entertainment to relieve or distract from the stresses of the day? To believe that it does is to court a diagnosis of being delusional.

    Since one of the testaments to the delusional nature of present-day society is the astonishingly widespread credence given to the Covid hoax, it shouldn't be a big deal to take a stand against feeding the beast.


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    Re: No Corona Test = No Freedom in Washington
    « Reply #5 on: May 15, 2020, 05:10:42 PM »
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  • “Unlike me, many of you have accepted the situation of your imprisonment, and will die here like rotten cabbages.” Number 6

    (More than fifty years later this series retains its poignancy in this Covid crazy world.”



    I remember that TV show as a child. I think that the reference to the show is appropriate, given the circuмstances in our country, though that series was filmed in the UK I think.

    The show's creator, Patrick McGoohan, was a Catholic.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: No Corona Test = No Freedom in Washington
    « Reply #6 on: May 15, 2020, 06:00:37 PM »
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  • “Unlike me, many of you have accepted the situation of your imprisonment, and will die here like rotten cabbages.” Number 6

    (More than fifty years later this series retains its poignancy in this Covid crazy world.”


    I am one of those elderly enough to have received First Communion before Vatican II, but I had no clue to what this post was about.

    So thank you, Alligator, for helping to clarify. I really must check out this program.

    My favourite British TV political comedies are Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: No Corona Test = No Freedom in Washington
    « Reply #7 on: May 16, 2020, 10:20:45 AM »
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  • I am one of those elderly enough to have received First Communion before Vatican II, but I had no clue to what this post was about.

    So thank you, Alligator, for helping to clarify. I really must check out this program.

    My favourite British TV political comedies are Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.

    I've not ever seen those two British shows, but I might check them out.

    Here in Washington state, I saw on the news this morning that gov. Jay Inslee has walked back one of his mandates regarding his rules for the reopening of restaurants here in the state. He initially required that everyone who goes into a restaurant must provide their personal info, such as name and phone number. He has since changed his mind about that. Maybe due to the protests outside of the state capitol building.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: No Corona Test = No Freedom in Washington
    « Reply #8 on: May 16, 2020, 10:43:08 AM »
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  • This clown has an extremely punch-able face...... :clown:  :fryingpan:


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    Re: No Corona Test = No Freedom in Washington
    « Reply #9 on: May 16, 2020, 12:50:00 PM »
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  • “Unlike me, many of you have accepted the situation of your imprisonment, and will die here like rotten cabbages.” Number 6

    (More than fifty years later this series retains its poignancy in this Covid crazy world.”


    Loved that show. Have the DVDs.
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