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Re: Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk To Healthy People
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2020, 12:56:20 AM »
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  • I wonder how a mask affects my asthma.


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    Re: Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk To Healthy People
    « Reply #2 on: May 16, 2020, 08:36:31 PM »
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  • Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk To Healthy People:

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2020/05/14/neurosurgeon-says-face-masks-pose-serious-risk-to-healthy-people-n392431
    Excellent article.  I don't wear a mask nor do I see a need to, however, as far as mask wearers I could care less, since I thought "it can't hurt". Till I read your linked article. Now I see that it can hurt the wearer.

    Thanks for the article. It is good to know that I know what I am doing.
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    Re: Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk To Healthy People
    « Reply #3 on: May 16, 2020, 09:45:36 PM »
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  • The mass media will not give you both sides. It is because the media is run by the intelligence agencies such as the CIA.
    The media along with their reporters are paid Handsomely for their fake news and the monies comes from the
    taxpayers whom do not have the slightest idea what is really going on.

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    Re: Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk To Healthy People
    « Reply #4 on: May 17, 2020, 12:32:50 AM »
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  • The mass media will not give you both sides.
    Actually, all they give is both sides, neglecting all the other sides.
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    Re: Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk To Healthy People
    « Reply #5 on: May 19, 2020, 08:00:07 PM »
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  • Excellent article.  I don't wear a mask nor do I see a need to, however, as far as mask wearers I could couldn't care less, since I thought "it can't hurt".  Till I read your linked article.  Now I see that it can hurt the wearer.

    The medical source whose opinions you promote is a Dr. Russell Blaylock [*].  I'm quite willing to consider opinions that are at odds with the medical establishment, such as his.  But I was really disappointed to see that he wrote about mere possibilities, not certainties, and not even approximate probabilities.  So despite their overly broad range from mere inconvenience to death, his failure to quantify them disqualifies the article from being "excellent" guidance to laymen.  His interview comes across as alarmist contrarian click-bait.  And as far as I can figure, Blaylock only addresses part of the issue: Transmission from nonmasked people to masked people, but not from masked people to nonmasked people.  As I've already written:


    When I wear a face-mask, I'm not protecting myself; there is truth in conclusions about that the protection provided by face-masks is imperfect to various degrees.  Anyone without a well-fitted face-mask would be foolish to wade repeatedly into a CoVID-19-infested environment, and expect [their mask to make them] invulnerable to catching CoVID-19.  But for medical care-givers [whose job requires] working 12-hour shifts, it's the best option they have.  And the presumed protection can be even more imperfect for people or institutions that fail to make even simple efforts at maintaining [or replacing] those masks.

    To support his public-health opinions, Blaylock argues [*] by a shaky analogy to  tuberculosis [††]:

    Quote from: Russell Blaylock as interviewed by Megan Fox

    When a person has TB we have them wear a mask, not the entire community of non-infected.

    I suppose that Blaylock is relying upon readers of his interview not knowing that, unlike people infected with CoVID-19, "People [infected] with latent TB do not spread the disease".  Where "latent TB", in the context of that internationally widespread disease, is a synonym for "asymptomatic TB" [††].  I wish I knew whether that crucial difference is a consequence of CoVID-19 being viral, and TB being mycobacterial.

    Quote from: Russell Blaylock interviewed by Megan Fox

    Several studies have indeed found significant problems with wearing such a mask.  This can vary from headaches, to increased airway resistance, carbon dioxide accuмulation, to hypoxia, [....]

    As experienced breath-hold divers know, when they need to breathe real soon now, their bodies don't sense an increasing shortage of O2, but instead, they sense the accuмulation of CO2 (yes, a nontoxic level that's on the low end of a range of CO2 concentrations that seems to culminate in the intimidatingly termed hypercapnia), and that is what triggers the human urge to breathe in more air.  I consider the corresponding health threat alleged by Blaylock to be caused by wearing a mask to be quite unconvincing: It's a matter of exchanging gas molecules that are composed of only 2-atoms or 3-atoms thro' a mask whose pores or weave are unavoidably much wider,  Really, now: Wouldn't taking periodic breaks from the credible drawbacks of wearing a mask, in some safe place, be a satisfactory interim remedy for people experiencing such problems?

    Let's keep our perspective: "Headaches"?  I've previously cited a 1st-person account of the ravages of CoVID-19 that afflict victims (i.e., people well on their ways to becoming dead) in some real-life worst cases [†].  Maybe some readers ought to refresh their memory.

    Quote from: Russell Blaylock interviewed by Megan Fox

    [...] all the way to serious life-threatening complications.

    Uh, huh.  So, how likely are they?  If we're going to live our lives so that we avoid any & all possibilities that are "life-threatening" but not quantified, then many of us could cite many more threats that possibly end in death, and many confront people living ordinary lives, but are typically neglected.  Notably, simply driving ourselves to a grocery hereabouts provides a statistically greater opportunity to be killed, e.g., by a collision with some confused tourist who makes a sudden left-hand turn across a few lanes of traffic.  Not even the "deplorables" in "Fly-over Country" are immune from that risk.

    Meanwhile, there are other sources readily available, and they present opinions on the matter [‡] that are contrary to Blaylock's.  But indepently of Blaylock's apparent "outsider" status with the medical establishment, I consider those others much more credible.

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    Generally: Straightforward clarifications by me to quoted content in this reply, e.g., to clarify antecedents, are signified by bracketed text in blue.

    Note *: <https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2020/05/14/neurosurgeon-says-face-masks-pose-serious-risk-to-healthy-people-n392431>.

    Note ††: "Tuberculosis".  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis>.

    Note †: <https://www.propublica.org/article/a-medical-worker-describes--terrifying-lung-failure-from-covid19-even-in-his-young-patients>.

    Note ‡: <https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/does-wearing-face-mask-increase-co2-levels>.  Summary: No.

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    Re: Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk To Healthy People
    « Reply #6 on: May 19, 2020, 08:14:51 PM »
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  • Today I was kicked out of a supermarket for not wearing one!
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  • "Upon further review", I strongly object to ‘RomanCatholic1953’ having created a new diversionary topic for this broad subject, 11  days after ‘2Vermont’ had created a perfectly suitable topic for replies [*].  It's not as if practically simultaneous original postings crossed each other on their way to the CathInfo server: 11 days!   It seems to me that ‘RomanCatholic1953’ frequently indulges himself in this kind of thing, needlessly splitting discussions, while failing to signal good intentions by providing a back-link to the thread that preceded his parvenue.  He's sure as shootin' not a newbie, being credited with nearly 7000 postings here.   Is it laziness, ego, or what?

    Yes, I do know that I'm not CathInfo's owner-moderator, but still!

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    "Upon further review", I strongly object to ‘RomanCatholic1953’ having created a new diversionary topic for this broad subject, 11  days after ‘2Vermont’ had created a perfectly suitable topic for replies [*].  It's not as if practically simultaneous original postings crossed each other on their way to the CathInfo server: 11 days!   It seems to me that ‘RomanCatholic1953’ frequently indulges himself in this kind of thing, needlessly splitting discussions, while failing to signal good intentions by providing a back-link to the thread that preceded his parvenue.  He's sure as shootin' not a newbie, being credited with nearly 7000 postings here.   Is it laziness, ego, or what?

    Yes, I do know that I'm not CathInfo's owner-moderator, but still!

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    Note *:  <https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/to-wear-a-mask-or-not-to-wear-a-mask/>.
    Since my post was mentioned here.....

    Personally, I don't care that RC1953 posted a new topic regarding masks.  Also, my thread had been quiet as of May 11, so it is very possible that it was no longer in the "Recent Topics" list when he created his own.  It is interesting that you were the one who resurrected it on the 15th however.

    As for RC1953 indulging himself, I will give you that.  Clearly there are some posters who are completely obsessed with The Corona.  If one looks at the Recent Topics list, most of the topics are about it.  You know something's up when there isn't even one anti-sedevacantism post! Anyway, I have learned that the topic is extremely divisive (even among people who normally agree!), and for that reason I am trying not to get involved in those threads anymore.

    You might like to know that I have since changed my opinion on wearing masks in places like grocery stores since posting that thread.  Although I still refuse to wear one outside, in my car, etc, and I do believe that things have gone way overboard, I do wear one when I go to the grocery store. It won't kill me to wear it for the 30-45 minutes I am in there.  Thankfully, I was able to tolerate it for the time I was there (although I came close to ripping the darn thing off).
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    Re: Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk To Healthy People
    « Reply #9 on: May 21, 2020, 11:22:30 AM »
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  • Why was Dr. Fauci, a health expert, just a few months ago telling us masks were harmful & unessential to those of us who aren't infected?

    Why do we need masks now!?
    What's changed since March?

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    Re: Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk To Healthy People
    « Reply #10 on: May 21, 2020, 11:41:05 AM »
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  • I’m torn between continuing my personal boycott of all places requiring masks, or using the mask for political statements in such places, by writing things on the mask like “SLAVE” or “POLICE STATE” or “PRISONER”, or “NO VACCINE” etc.
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    Re: Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk To Healthy People
    « Reply #11 on: May 21, 2020, 11:51:05 AM »
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  • I’m torn between continuing my personal boycott of all places requiring masks, or using the mask for political statements in such places, by writing things on the mask like “SLAVE” or “POLICE STATE” or “PRISONER”, or “NO VACCINE” etc.
    Sean, I have the same issue. When I do wear one, it reads Total Scam.
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    "Upon further review", I strongly object to ‘RomanCatholic1953’ having created a new diversionary topic for this broad subject, 11  days after ‘2Vermont’ had created a perfectly suitable topic for replies [*].  It's not as if practically simultaneous original postings crossed each other on their way to the CathInfo server: 11 days!   It seems to me that ‘RomanCatholic1953’ frequently indulges himself in this kind of thing, needlessly splitting discussions, while failing to signal good intentions by providing a back-link to the thread that preceded his parvenue.  He's sure as shootin' not a newbie, being credited with nearly 7000 postings here.   Is it laziness, ego, or what?

    Yes, I do know that I'm not CathInfo's owner-moderator, but still!

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    Note *:  <https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/to-wear-a-mask-or-not-to-wear-a-mask/>.
    RC1953 is an excellent poster of threads, he posts a lot of good articles. He is a credit to CI.

    The article he posted here, in essence is saying that wearing a disposable N95 mask all day can be harmful. Do you wear a mask in your car, at home, or when working outside with your family or alone?
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