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Offline AMDGJMJ

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Re: Medicinal liqueurs
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2023, 06:25:30 AM »
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  • If the intent is to become absinthe-minded... an inadvisable Rx as per the Angelic Doctor (ST II II, Q 150, Art. 2, co.) ::)
    The primary ingredients of absinthe from what I understand are Wormwood, anise, and fennel. 

    I am pretty sure all of these were favorite medicinal herbs of Saint Hildegard. 
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    Re: Medicinal liqueurs
    « Reply #16 on: May 05, 2023, 06:28:58 AM »
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  • I have no intention of getting drunk, plastered or what have thee! :cowboy:

    Absinthe I would be content just to sniff it

    My health normally is quite adverse to alcohol. Rare is the imbibing.

    Drambuie in an iced tea mixture is ok, but it is indeed too sweet.
    Unless you want to drown strawberries in it :smirk:
    This reminds me of "Hot Totties". (Lemon juice, honey and Rum or Whisky).

    My sister made me one when I had been terribly sick for two weeks and we thought I might never get over it.  The drink knocked the sicknesses out of my system almost overnight!  😅

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    Re: Medicinal liqueurs
    « Reply #17 on: May 05, 2023, 11:30:28 AM »
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  • The primary ingredients of absinthe from what I understand are Wormwood, anise, and fennel. 

    I am pretty sure all of these were favorite medicinal herbs of Saint Hildegard.

    The wormwood is what's supposed to be the kicker. In 19th century France, there was a reefer-madness sort of backlash when it was alleged that common criminals were all addicted to absinthe, leading to that liqueur being outlawed. Thus, paintings like the one by Edgar Degas below.



    The potentially troublesome compound is thujone, also found in juniper and other such plants. At lower doses it's a dewormer, hence "wormwood" and St. Hildegard's medieval recommendation, but at higher doses it can be a hallucinogen, convulsant, and cause permanent damage to internal organs. 

    Wormwood, Artemisia absinthium, is one of a family of herbs that include mugwort, Artemisia vulgaris, a very common weed. It has a resiny sweet scent so usually I don't bother pulling it (see image below). 



    I did know that mugwort has that name because it was used to flavor mugs of mead and beer, but I didn't know that it was related to the absinthe flavoring too. For contrast, below is an image of the absinthium plant, which seems to be more silvery and feltlike.



    Then there's the Wormwood of Revelations, but that's a whole other topic....
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    Re: Medicinal liqueurs
    « Reply #18 on: May 05, 2023, 12:32:22 PM »
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  • Absinthe is just very high in alcohol content. The wormwood doesn't give it any uniquely inebriating features. I think perhaps, in realistically unattainable quantities, it may have psychoactive effects. But not in absinthe. 
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    Absinthe is very good, but a very little goes a very long way. I usually just pour into a one ounce shot glass and sip. Spray some in a small glass, add chilled whiskey for a Sazerac. 
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    Re: Medicinal liqueurs
    « Reply #19 on: May 05, 2023, 02:26:20 PM »
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  • Thank you to all for the great suggestions and information. Several of these I have not heard of and look forward to trying (in moderation of course, lest I need to start a ":facepalm: Hangover remedies?" thread ;)).


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    Re: Medicinal liqueurs
    « Reply #20 on: May 05, 2023, 03:10:01 PM »
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  • The wormwood is what's supposed to be the kicker. In 19th century France, there was a reefer-madness sort of backlash when it was alleged that common criminals were all addicted to absinthe, leading to that liqueur being outlawed. Thus, paintings like the one by Edgar Degas below.



    The potentially troublesome compound is thujone, also found in juniper and other such plants. At lower doses it's a dewormer, hence "wormwood" and St. Hildegard's medieval recommendation, but at higher doses it can be a hallucinogen, convulsant, and cause permanent damage to internal organs.

    Wormwood, Artemisia absinthium, is one of a family of herbs that include mugwort, Artemisia vulgaris, a very common weed. It has a resiny sweet scent so usually I don't bother pulling it (see image below).



    I did know that mugwort has that name because it was used to flavor mugs of mead and beer, but I didn't know that it was related to the absinthe flavoring too. For contrast, below is an image of the absinthium plant, which seems to be more silvery and feltlike.



    Then there's the Wormwood of Revelations, but that's a whole other topic....
    Well, I cannot think of any other drink that is truly meant for an apocalypse, if not the definite Apocalypse, it would have to be absinthe preciously because of wormwood. ;)

    Beware la fee vert (the green fairy) it is said. 

    "Absinthe is the aphrodisiac of the self.The green fairy who lives in the absinthe wants your soul." 
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    Re: Medicinal liqueurs
    « Reply #21 on: May 05, 2023, 03:30:14 PM »
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  • In Southern Europe, some swear by vermouth, but I haven't used it for therapeutic/medicinal purposes. What do the trick for me, apart from infusions, are tinctures and fire cider (prepared with unpasteurized apple cider vinegar).

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    Re: Medicinal liqueurs
    « Reply #22 on: May 05, 2023, 03:30:24 PM »
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  • Interesting that it is in the same Genus as tarragon (Dracunculus artemesia).


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    Re: Medicinal liqueurs
    « Reply #23 on: May 05, 2023, 03:49:43 PM »
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  • Drambuie is too sweet on its own, but stirred in ice with an equal part blended scotch for a rusty nail is an excellent drink. Garnish with lemon.
    I guess I have a sweet tooth. I like it neat. I've never had the famous rusty nail, will have to try it.
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    Re: Medicinal liqueurs
    « Reply #24 on: May 05, 2023, 04:48:53 PM »
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  • Interesting that it is in the same Genus as tarragon (Dracunculus artemesia).
    I remember my using this as a poultry seasoning. In addition to other herbs, it gave a special flavour to the roast chicken.

    I recall tarragon being referred to as the dragon herb. Not surprising given its Latin name, seeing it for the first time.
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