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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
« Reply #150 on: March 17, 2020, 03:39:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bonaventure on March 17, 2020, 03:34:17 PM
    What percentage of those had underlying health conditions?

    Not sure, but I heard that over 60% of the U.S. population are either elderly or are obese.  An article came out today in the N.Y. Post that there are many young people in Belgium without any conditions (no health issues, don't smoke, etc.) who have serious lung damage (one Dr. called the CT scans "terrifying").  I don't link to NY Post because it has some seriously immodest ad pictures.
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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #151 on: March 18, 2020, 04:57:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 17, 2020, 11:59:31 AM
    Part of it is that it's early.  There are projections that 3-4 million Americans could die if this is left unchecked.  50% of ICU patients in France are under the age of 45.
    Yes, they project, estimate, approximate, conclude, foretell and spread this thing as if the consummation of the world is all but upon us.

    Let's put this in persepective......

    Here in Michigan, the latest figure is 65 cases of the virus, out of 10 million people who live in Michigan, that equates to exactly .0000065% of the population.

    Currently, out of about 330.4 million people in the USA, there are about 6500 cases, which equates to .00002% of the population. Out of those 6500, to date there have been 116 deaths, which means that we have a .00000035% chance of dying from this virus. By any measure, the ratio is less than minuscule, but the way they report this thing 24/7 has people believing that 99% of the population are dying from it, meanwhile 90 people die every day in car accidents in the USA.

    Being that exponentially more people die from the common flu, this thing is not even as bad as the common flu.






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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #152 on: March 18, 2020, 05:50:29 AM »
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    • This about says it all.......

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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #153 on: March 18, 2020, 09:00:55 AM »
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    • DOCTOR PROVIDES EXCELLENT UNDERSTANDING OF THE CORONA VIRUS HYSTERIA THAT HE COMPARES TO THE KING WHO HAD NO CLOTHES ON AND A SMALL CHILD WAS ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THAT HE WAS NAKED. 


    SHORT VIDEO WITH SUBTITLES HERE:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=647&v=yn074EB5NNY&feature=emb_logo
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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #154 on: March 18, 2020, 09:10:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on March 18, 2020, 04:57:30 AM
    Yes, they project, estimate, approximate, conclude, foretell and spread this thing as if the consummation of the world is all but upon us.

    Let's put this in persepective......

    Here in Michigan, the latest figure is 65 cases of the virus, out of 10 million people who live in Michigan, that equates to exactly .0000065% of the population.

    Sure, but we're early in the cycle.  Look at what's going on in Italy and multiply that by a factor of 8 for the potential impact.  It's a foregone conclusion that the economy is toast.  We're also much less healthy in the U.S. than the Italians are.  For this being an older person's disease, the young man of Pachamama fame is now hospitalized with corona.  French are reporting that about half of their ICU patients (due to corona) are under 45.  In the U.S., over 60% of the country have various health concerns ... obesity, various auto-immune disorders, asthma, allergies, diabetes, etc.

    As far as i can tell, they're taking all these measures just to slow the virus and "flatten the curve" so that the hospitals are not all overwhelmed at the same time.

    I don't know anyone who is in a state of panic.  Even the hoarding is just a cycle.  People see other people hoarding, so they go hoard to make sure they have enough (because of the hoarding).
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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #155 on: March 18, 2020, 11:07:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 18, 2020, 09:10:41 AM
    Sure, but we're early in the cycle.  Look at what's going on in Italy and multiply that by a factor of 8 for the potential impact.  It's a foregone conclusion that the economy is toast.  We're also much less healthy in the U.S. than the Italians are.  For this being an older person's disease, the young man of Pachamama fame is now hospitalized with corona.  French are reporting that about half of their ICU patients (due to corona) are under 45.  In the U.S., over 60% of the country have various health concerns ... obesity, various auto-immune disorders, asthma, allergies, diabetes, etc.

    As far as i can tell, they're taking all these measures just to slow the virus and "flatten the curve" so that the hospitals are not all overwhelmed at the same time.

    I don't know anyone who is in a state of panic.  Even the hoarding is just a cycle.  People see other people hoarding, so they go hoard to make sure they have enough (because of the hoarding).
    I went to my doctor for my annual checkup two days ago, it's a small office that is being absolutely overwhelmed with calls and demands to be tested for the virus - so far none of those tested even had any symptoms according to the nurses - who wish the news would already shut up about it because it's making the population crazy.

    The guy from Pachamama is sick with the virus but the odds are that he will most likely get over it - not to lessen the severity because I understand it's a bad virus and often (not always) means a severe sickness, but keep in mind that these days, people run to the emergency room when they have a runny nose.

    The steps taken will by design, kill this economy more than it will stop the virus. What good is it to close factories and restaurants and etc., then let 1000's of people all over the country cram together in all the stores for hours at a time?    


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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #156 on: March 18, 2020, 12:49:04 PM »
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    • A little off the subject:  Money,  Do we take out of our banks?  Do we put it to cash?  do we move it?  I heard "they" think cash (paper) would have the virus on it?

    My mind ponders:  Should we just keep our money(points) and use cards or do we stack up cash? for on hand.  What are your thoughts.
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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #157 on: March 18, 2020, 04:20:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: songbird on March 18, 2020, 12:49:04 PM
    A little off the subject:  Money,  Do we take out of our banks?  Do we put it to cash?  do we move it?  I heard "they" think cash (paper) would have the virus on it?

    My mind ponders:  Should we just keep our money(points) and use cards or do we stack up cash? for on hand.  What are your thoughts.
    Try to buy silver or gold. However much it costs, it will only go up.
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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #158 on: March 18, 2020, 05:02:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bonaventure on March 17, 2020, 03:34:17 PM
    What percentage of those had underlying health conditions?

    Pentin: More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities have been people who suffered from previous medical conditions.

    https://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/coronavirus-latest-italys-bishops-call-for-all-churches-to-be-closed
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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #159 on: March 18, 2020, 06:57:17 PM »
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    • Corona Bologna Italy: The Truth begins to leak out
     
    by Jon Rappoport
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    March 17, 2020
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    The government of Italy, as everyone knows, has locked down the whole country of 60 million people. So how many Italians have died from COV? Even by the standards of the useless and misleading diagnostic tests?
    Ready?
    As far as the Italian Higher Institute of Health knows, at this point:
    Maybe two.
    Maybe.
    Try to wrap your mind around that.
    Good luck.
    Seems the president of the Italian Higher Institute has some smarts. He understands that people who already have other serious health conditions, which have nothing to do with COV, can and do die from those other conditions, regardless of the fact that they’ve tested positive (on useless tests) for COV. He gets it. I predict a great future for him. If he keeps shooting his mouth off, he might find himself working as a weed puller in a forest. Or he might suddenly be diagnosed with the virus and find himself in isolation.
    Grit your teeth and plow through this piece from Rome, 13 March 2020, Agenzia Nova: “Coronavirus: ISS [Italian National Institute of Health]: in Italy there are only two deaths ascertained so far due to Covid-19” (Italian, English)
    “There may be only two people who died from coronavirus in Italy, who did not present other pathologies. This is what emerges from the medical records examined so far by the Higher Institute of Health, according to what was reported by the President of the Institute [Istituto Superiore di Sanità (ISS), Italian National Institute of Health], Silvio Brusaferro, during the press conference held today at the Civil Protection in Rome. ‘Positive deceased patients have an average of over 80 years – 80.3 to be exact…The majority of these people are carriers of chronic diseases. Only two people were not presently carriers of [other non-COV] diseases’, but even in these two cases, the examination of the files is not concluded and therefore, causes of death different from Covid-19 could emerge. The president of the ISS has specified that ‘little more than a hundred medical records’ have so far come from hospitals throughout Italy.”
    “…At present, in fact, the authorities are unable to distinguish those who died from the virus, from those who, on the other hand, are communicated daily to the public, but who were mostly carriers of other serious diseases and who, therefore, would not have died from Covid-19. In response to a question from ‘Agenzia Nova’, in fact, Brusaferro was unable to indicate the exact number of coronavirus deaths. However, the professor clarified that, according to the data analyzed, the vast majority of the victims ‘had serious [non-COV] pathologies and in some cases the onset of an infection of the respiratory tract can lead more easily to death.’ To clarify this point, and provide real data, ‘as we acquire the folders we will go further. However, the populations most at risk are fragile, carriers of multiple diseases’.”
    Translation into non-medical language: the people dying in Italy have other very serious traditional diseases that have nothing to do with COV, and it’s obvious they could have died, and probably did die, from those other diseases. Nevertheless, we’re locking down the whole country.
    So, for those people straining to find a reason for the “devastation” overtaking Italy—it’s karma for ancient Rome trying to conquer half the known world; it’s the ghost of Martin Luther obtaining revenge against the Vatican; it’s a bioweapon with the power to cut down millions of people overnight; it’s a virus that came in with a small meteor and crashed outside Milan; it’s Chinese revenge against Marco Polo for stealing the concept of noodles—
    Take a break, relax, have a plate of pasta, turn on the TV, and because all the stadiums are empty, watch a rerun of a soccer match from 1979.
    PS: For those people who believe this head of the Italian Institute is lying with his facts and figures, stop and think it through. He’s going to announce such devastating news that essentially contradicts everything the Italian government is doing with its lockdowns and quarantines of the whole country? It would be as if the director of the Centers for Disease Control announced, “There are a total of nine deaths in the US we think might have been caused by COV, and even there we’re not sure, because you see, these nine were elderly people who could barely get out of bed long before COV emerged. These nine had extremely serious lung disease NOT CAUSED, I repeat, NOT CAUSED by COV…but anyway, don’t go outside, work from home, don’t touch another human being, watch our website for bargain deals on toilet paper, and oh yes, don’t forget to get your regular flu shot if you can slip into a hazmat suit and drive at breakneck speed to your nearest pharmacy, where injection clerks are waiting…”
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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #160 on: March 19, 2020, 06:47:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on March 18, 2020, 04:20:22 PM
    Quote from: songbird on March 18, 2020, 12:49:04 PM
    A little off the subject:  Money,  Do we take out of our banks?  Do we put it to cash?  do we move it?  I heard "they" think cash (paper) would have the virus on it?

    My mind ponders:  Should we just keep our money(points) and use cards or do we stack up cash? for on hand.  What are your thoughts.

    Try to buy silver or gold. However much it costs, it will only go up.
    That is a good question! Not sure why but gold and silver have been going down with the market - which is unusual, or better said, not normal.  But so far, I would not do anything simply because the fed is pumping the market and country with trillions right now and there does not seem to be an end in sight, as such, there is no shortage so there is nothing to panic over - so far.  But if you are going to do anything, I agree with Cera, maybe start accuмulating a little gold and silver if you can.


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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #161 on: March 19, 2020, 06:55:00 AM »
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    • Ben Swan has a good take
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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #162 on: March 19, 2020, 07:21:16 AM »
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    • Just take the numbers from Italy.  Yesterday alone 475 people died.  Since their population is about 1/7th of that of the U.S., that would translate to 3300 deaths in the U.S. in a single day, or 100,000 per month, or 1.2 million in  single year.  Yes, this clearly is worse than the flu.  Also, I don't actually believe any of the flu death numbers.  They claim that 100,000 die per year of the flu.  That would mean 2,000 in every U.S. state.  I have never known anyone who knew anyone who knew anyone who actually died of the flu.  I tend to think those numbers are made up to push the flu vaccine every year.

    I mean, almost every time someone dies of the flu in Ohio, it's headline news ... and you get like one or two of those stories every year.

    Mark Twain:  "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."  People massage statistics to whatever agenda they're promoting.  Drug companies are caught lying all the time manipulating stats so they can push unsafe drugs onto the market.  They get a fine that's 1/10th of the profit they made from the harmful drug and carry on.
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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #163 on: March 19, 2020, 08:38:33 AM »
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    Re: Killer Carona Virus now in United States
    « Reply #164 on: March 19, 2020, 09:36:12 AM »
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    • Gold and silver has been totally manipulated for many years. There used to be an inverse value correlation between the stock market and gold, but that hasn't exixted since the gold rally of 2011. When the economic "sea change" happens and we go to 100% digital "money", there will be a huge black market for gold and silver and off the grid commerce. Another scenerio which I don't think will happen is that we will return to a gold backed currency, which would skyrocket all metals. Either way precious metals will be worth having. Currently I am keeping cash on hand for the immediate future. 
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