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Traditional Catholic Faith => Health and Nutrition => Topic started by: SeanJohnson on January 27, 2022, 12:10:06 PM
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So my wife developed all the covid symptoms (fever, chills, bodyaches, and the worst headache she says she ever had).
Took ivermectin at 9:30PM.
Woke up 80% better, and now (about noon) 90% normal.
Wow.
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So my wife developed all the covid symptoms (fever, chills, bodyaches, and the worst headache she says she ever had).
Took ivermectin at 9:30PM.
Woke up 80% better, and now (about noon) 90% normal.
Wow.
My friend said the same thing, that he felt fine the next morning (see Doctors to Call if you get Covid - page 1 - Members Only - Catholic Info (cathinfo.com) (https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/doctors-to-call-if-you-get-covid/msg801581/#msg801581) ) but he had been sick for 6 days before he took the Ivermectin and so being more advanced the doctors additionally prescribed antibiotic (Z-pack) and Prednisone. I was curious to see if just taking the Ivermectin and vitamins early did the trick and you confirmed it. I have some friends, a couple, that said the same as you. No big deal.
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Wow, praised be Jesus Christ.
What was the dosage if you don't mind me asking?
A family member got 15mg daily for 5 days and his condition definitely improved.
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Wow, praised be Jesus Christ.
What was the dosage if you don't mind me asking?
A family member got 15mg daily for 5 days and his condition definitely improved.
Dosage is all by bodyweight, so it would likely be different for you.
Also different dosage and/or frequency, depending on whether you're taking it as a prophylactic (i.e., preventative) or treatment (i.e., infected).
Somewhere on this forum Mark79 has posted the FLCCC guidelines regarding dosage (a couple different times).
As often as people ask this question about dosage and frequency, I wish it could be permanently "pinned" to the top of the Health and Nutrition subforum.
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Sean, Deo gratias!
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Dosage is all by bodyweight, so it would likely be different for you.
Also different dosage and/or frequency, depending on whether you're taking it as a prophylactic (i.e., preventative) or treatment (i.e., infected).
Somewhere on this forum Mark79 has posted the FLCCC guidelines regarding dosage (a couple different times).
As often as people ask this question about dosage and frequency, I wish it could be permanently "pinned" to the top of the Health and Nutrition subforum.
Thank you. Yes it makes sense that it would be based on body weight and in the case I mentioned it was used as treatment. We checked FLCCC and found a doctor about 30 miles away who prescribed Ivermectin and was willing to see him right away.
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As often as people ask this question about dosage and frequency, I wish it could be permanently "pinned" to the top of the Health and Nutrition subforum.
Good idea. Did anyone ask Matthew?
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I collected the protocols and dose calculators and posted them here: https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/flccca-(ivermectin)-protocols-dose-calculators/msg804061/?topicseen#msg804061 (https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/flccca-(ivermectin)-protocols-dose-calculators/msg804061/?topicseen#msg804061)
Pinning is out of my hands.
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Good idea. Did anyone ask Matthew?
I just emailed Matthew the request, and supplied the link Mark79 just posted with the FLCCC protocols.
We'll see what he says.
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It's been pinned -- in the subforum (Health) that it was posted in.
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So my wife developed all the covid symptoms (fever, chills, bodyaches, and the worst headache she says she ever had).
Took ivermectin at 9:30PM.
Woke up 80% better, and now (about noon) 90% normal.
Wow.
Well, now a sudden and startling turn for the worse:
After a day of improvement after the first dose of ivermectin, my wife rapidly worsened throughout the day yesterday, until by 2:30am, I was awakened by her intermittently gasping for breath, and in obvious pain and discomfort, chest pain, and said it felt like her airway was only at 50% open.
Not wanting to lose my wife, but also not wanting to put her on a ventilator except as a last resort when all other options have failed (as I mentioned, the hospital I would have to take her to just made national news for trying to pull the plug on a ventilated covid patient, against the family’s directives, and the patient was also criminally malnourished), I decided to call her OBGYN at around 4-5am, and he actually picked up the phone!
He’s just about to retire, and although he’s Protestant, and eventually succuмbed to pressure to get Vaxed, he knows we’re very much against it, are trads, and he’s delivered 4 of our 7 children (God willing, he’ll deliver our 8th in June; my wife is currently pregnant). He once got in trouble for refusing to wear a mask in the maternity ward, and the witch nurses called the cops on him, and had him escorted off the property. He also said as very happy to recommend my wife taking ivermectin we had received from another doctor. The point being that he has a good amount of natural goodness and common sense.
Knowing we wanted to avoid the ER at all costs, he wrote my wife this prescription:
20mg prednisone (2pills/day with food for 7 days);
Albuterol inhaler (2 puffs, 2x/day);
Azithromycin (aka “Z-pak”): 2 pills on day 2, then 1 pill/day for days 2-5.
He did not insist on her coming in for appointment. Again, I can’t tell you how thankful we are that he picked up his phone in the very early morning. Had he not done so, I may have had to make a terrible decision, call a priest, then off to ER.
Well, none of the pharmacies here are open until 8am, and those were tough and worrisome hours, watching my wife struggle until I could go get the meds. But I finally did, and got back home. The Albuterol inhaler had immediate effect, but only temporary. Not opening the airway completely, but more than it was. Remains to be seen how the prednisone and Z-pak do, but we're hopeful.
She also has all the symptoms of pneumonia, and apparently there is something called covid-pneumonia, and I’m just a layman guessing here, but maybe that’s why the effectiveness of the ivermectin faded (i.e., it worked against the covid, but not against the pneumonia?).
Anyway, we’re hoping the inhaler will carry her through until the prednisone/Z-pak kick in, and meanwhile we are going in for an appointment with this good doctor in a few hours).
If any of you could offer prayers for her, I would never forget it. She is a much better woman than a bum like me deserved.
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Be assured of my prayers! :pray:
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Just one last detail:
Someone who read this CI account emailed me, and said their friend in a similar situation claimed that taking zinc will impede the effectiveness of the ivermectin.
I have no way of knowing whether that’s true or not, but it fits our circuмstances:
The first day my wife took ivermectin, she had not taken zinc, and the improvement was fast and dramatic. The next day she also took zinc, and her decline was equally precipitous.
So no zinc today, and we’ll see what happens.
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Pulmicourt inhaler was shown to have efficacy for COVID. Your wife is in my prayers.
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from: Doctors to Call if you get Covid - page 1 - Members Only - Catholic Info (cathinfo.com) (https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/doctors-to-call-if-you-get-covid/msg801581/#msg801581)
Below is a real world experience of someone I know that contracted Corona Virus. Observe the difference between what his family doctor prescribed “take a multivitamin”, and the FLCCC doctors prescriptions and the speed in which they were delivered. The FLCCC doctor COVID-19 Care Providers - FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (covid19criticalcare.com) (https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/covid-19-care-providers/) was in another city and the pharmacy in the same city as the sick person and the prescriptions were delivered in 1:30 hours after he hung up with the doctor. The sick person had never taken any of the vaccines.
On Monday, November 15th, the process went like this:
10am – called my family doctor, the nurse said to just take a multivitamin and Zinc.
11:00 - Scheduled my appointment with FLCCC for 1:10 PM
1:10 - Had the scheduled appointment, lasted about 15 minutes and was told the medicine that would be prescribed which was Ivermectin, Z-Pack, and Prednisone, the pharmacist would be calling me to arrange delivery and answer questions
2:45 - pharmacist called and was very helpful and went through all the meds, told me they would be delivered within 30 minutes
3:15 - medicine arrived at my front door, I took the medicine when it arrived
5:30 - started to feel much better and has been improving daily. That night I slept like a baby, the first time in 8 days!
Total cost for the above doctor's video phone examination and prescriptions delivered to sick person's his door $260.
It couldn't be any simpler!
The doctor my friend used came from the list at COVID-19 Care Providers - FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (covid19criticalcare.com) (https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/covid-19-care-providers/) The doctor he chose below from the FLCCC list was recommended by someone else who also used him. There are many other doctors on the FLCCC list in other states and cities.
Bernard Garcia, MD
ICARE VIP
Fort Lauderdale, FL
(954) 495-9871
https://icarevip.com/COVID/ (https://icarevip.com/COVID)
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My friend said the same thing, that he felt fine the next morning (see Doctors to Call if you get Covid - page 1 - Members Only - Catholic Info (cathinfo.com) (https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/doctors-to-call-if-you-get-covid/msg801581/#msg801581) ) but he had been sick for 6 days before he took the Ivermectin and so being more advanced the doctors additionally prescribed antibiotic (Z-pack) and Prednisone. I was curious to see if just taking the Ivermectin and vitamins early did the trick and you confirmed it. I have some friends, a couple, that said the same as you. No big deal.
It looks like in your case your wife ended with the same treatment as my friend: Ivermectin, Z-pack and Prednisone, the ivermectin by itself did not do it.
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Disclaimer: This should not replace any medical advice you get from a professional you trust, just my experience taking care of someone who got covid pneumonia.
My relative got covid pneumonia and was recommended to sleep upright by a doctor found on FLCCC. If possible have a "zero-gravity" chair or recliner to try to get some sleep that way.
Also to do something called the prone position (as explained by a doctor here: https://youtu.be/z2VaS-exhlg) where you get on your knees, bend down, place your hands in a way that you can rest your forehead on them which allows your back to form a 45 degree angle and get things moving inside your lungs. It is important that all parts of your lungs (alveoli) get oxygen. I think part of the reason why your wife got some temporary relief using the albuterol inhaler because it helped those parts of the lungs get some oxygen but then the lung secretions resettle and blocks the alveoli again.
Do you have an oxygen saturation meter? also known as an oximeter. If not, buy or borrow one so you can monitor. Everyone is different so you might have to do more research on what the minimum oxygen saturation percentage is for your wife. If it goes below that often/consistently you may have to go to the hospital.
Also, look into cistus tea. Diet is important, bone broth and things like that. Lots of tea, licorice root, cinnamon, lemon ginger.
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So my wife developed all the covid symptoms (fever, chills, bodyaches, and the worst headache she says she ever had).
Took ivermectin at 9:30PM.
Woke up 80% better, and now (about noon) 90% normal.
Wow.
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Sean, your dear wife is in our prayers. May she and baby come safely through this.
St Gerard Majella, intercede for them. :pray:
St Domenic of Silos, pray for them.:pray:
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:pray:
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It looks like in your case your wife ended with the same treatment as my friend: Ivermectin, Z-pack and Prednisone, the ivermectin by itself did not do it.
One of the things not widely known is that Ivermectin works with zinc. You need to add zinc into the mix.
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Prayers for your sweet wife and family, Sean.
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Praying for all :pray:
Hope she is improving
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Just one last detail:
Someone who read this CI account emailed me, and said their friend in a similar situation claimed that taking zinc will impede the effectiveness of the ivermectin.
I have no way of knowing whether that’s true or not, but it fits our circuмstances:
The first day my wife took ivermectin, she had not taken zinc, and the improvement was fast and dramatic. The next day she also took zinc, and her decline was equally precipitous.
So no zinc today, and we’ll see what happens.
See what Ladislaus just wrote in Reply #20, it contradicts your posting. I think you friend is wrong according to FLCCC
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Praying for all :pray:
Hope she is improving
Hello FC-
Yes, she is much better than she was: Blood oxygen normal; air passage about 99%; coughs more productive; no chest pain (except when coughing); fever gone.
Very strange how quickly she improves and declines, but it feels like she is out of the woods now.
Heartfelt thanks to you and all who prayed; we’ll be returning the favor.
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See what Ladislaus just wrote, it contradicts your posting. I think you friend is wrong according to FLCCC
All I can say is she improved on day 1 with ivermectin and no zinc, declined on day 2 with ivermectin and zinc, then improved again on day 3 with ivermectin and no zinc (although day 3 is also with prednisone, Albuterol inhaler, and z-pak).
Whether there is any causal relation one way or the other, I really can’t say.
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Hello FC-
Yes, she is much better than she was: Blood oxygen normal; air passage about 99%; coughs more productive; no chest pain (except when coughing); fever gone.
Very strange how quickly she improves and declines, but it feels like she is out of the woods now.
Heartfelt thanks to you and all who prayed; we’ll be returning the favor.
Hello Sean,
Just read your wife's story. My heart went out to you. I'm so pleased she is feeling better, Sean. Just said a prayer to Blessed Mother for you and your wife.
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My brother, 72 years old, just recovered from Covid pneumonia with the following protocol, surprisingly no Ivermectin was prescribed:
Aspirin, azithromycin, budesonide inhaler, d3, famotidine, prednisone, zinc