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« on: December 09, 2010, 06:48:59 PM »
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  • So the language that was from S510 was inserted into a "must pass" bill, to fund the government in 2011, and it passed  the house.

    Take a deep breath and call your senators... again, and threaten them with the wrath of doom if they vote for this bill. :(

    http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=5303

    Fast way to do it. Some really good talking points here about the biggest problem: Codex Alimentarius.

    Cool sounding Latin word... TOTAL TRAIN WRECK for food freedom.

    http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=6910

    This bill will lead us into a pact with the FAO and the WHO and make it so that your dosage of vitamins will be determined by a foreign committee like the WTO (which is part of this) that will tell you what dosage of dietary supplements are appropriate and will classify them as DRUGS.

    This will also make it so that across the board, according to their "guidelines" all cows will eventually have to be injected with the rBGH hormone. In order to make food across the board uniform, they'll make organics "invasive species" and in order to farm, you'll need to buy your seed from some giant agribusiness, and you won't be able to save your seeds.

    Please do something if you can.

    If this goes through, guaranteed, this is part of the punishment coming to this country, and MILLIONS of people worldwide are going to starve because of this legislation, and I'm not exaggerating in the slightest.
    Matthew 5:37

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    « Reply #1 on: December 09, 2010, 07:37:07 PM »
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  • Certain groups really want that power.  It does make you wonder what their intentions are.


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    « Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 10:40:22 PM »
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  • We're talking about sons of the devil -- they want suffering, pain, and loss of souls -- the more the better.

    We're talking about the 4th class of sinner, here -- not the same kind of sinners you and I are.

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  • In general we can distinguish four classes of sinners, and it is well for confessors and preachers to be aware of the differences so that they can use the methods best suited to lead these sinners to conversion. The first type sins because of ignorance. We are not referring to a total and invincible ignorance, which would excuse entirely from sin, but to the ignorance that results from a completely indifferent education or from an environment that is devoid of religious influence. Those who live in such surroundings usually have some awareness of the malice of sin. They are conscious of the fact that certain actions are not morally right, and from time to time they even feel a certain remorse. In any case, they are capable of committing deliberate mortal sin.

    At the same time the responsibility of such persons before God is greatly lessened. If they have an aversion to that which seems unjust or sinful to them; if, in spite of external influences, they have remained basically upright; and if, especially at the hour of death, they raise their heart to God, full of remorse and confident in his mercy, there is no doubt that they will be judged with mercy at the divine tribunal. If Christ advises us that much more will be asked of those to whom much has been given (Luke 12:48), it is reasonable to think that less will be asked of those who have received little.

    Souls such as these often turn to God with comparative readiness if the opportunity presents itself. Since their careless life did not proceed from true malice, but from ignorance, any situation that makes a strong impression on the soul and causes it to enter in upon itself may suffice to cause them to turn to God. The death of a member of the family, a sermon heard at a mission, the introduction to a religious environment, often suffices to lead such souls to the right path. The priest charged with their care should conscientiously complete their religious formation lest they return to their former state.

    The second type of sinners comprises those who are weak, lacking in will power, strongly inclined to sensual pleasure, intellectually dull, listless, or cowardly. They lament their faults, they admire good people anc[ would like to be one of them, but they lack the courage and energy to be so in reality. These dispositions do not excuse them from sin; on the contrary, they are more culpable than those who sin through ignorance, because they sin with a greater knowledge. But basically they are weak rather than evil. The person in charge of their spiritual welfare should be especially concerned with strengthening them in their good resolutions, leading them to the frequent reception of the sacraments, to reflection, and avoidance of the occasions of sin.

    The third type of sinners are those who sin with cold indifference, without remorse of conscience, silencing the faint voice of conscience in order to continue their life of sin without reproach. They do not want to give up their sin and are not concerned that their conduct offends God.

    The conversion of these persons is very difficult. Their constant infidelity to the inspirations of grace, their indifference to the basic norms of morality, their systematic disdain for the advice given them by those who wish to help them-all this hardens their hearts to such an extent that it would require a veritable miracle of grace for them to return to the right path.

    Perhaps the most efficacious means .of leading them back to God would be to encourage them to practice certain spiritual exercises with a group of persons of the same profession or social condition as themselves; for example, to make a retreat, a parish mission, or a cursillo. It is not unusual for this type of person to try some spiritual exercise out of curiosity, especially if it is suggested in a friendly manner, and it frequently happens that a great grace from God awaits them there. At times astounding conversions are effected, radical changes of life, and the beginning of a life of piety and fervor in persons who formerly lived completely forgetful of God. The priest who has the good fortune to be the instrument of, such divine mercy should watch over the convert and by means of a wise and prudent direction try to assure the definitive and permanent return to God.

    The fourth class of sinners is the most culpable. These people sin through a refined malice and diabolical obstinacy. They may have begun as good Christians, but little by little they degenerated, yielding more and more to evil until their souls were definitively conquered. Then came the inevitable consequence of defection and apostasy. The last barriers have been broken, and now these people are susceptible to every kind of moral disorder. They attack religion and the Church and may even join a non-Catholic sect and propagate its doctrines with zeal and ardor. One such person deliberately closed the door to any possibility of a return to God by saying to his friends and relatives: "If at the hour of death I ask for a priest to hear my confession, do not bring him, because I shall be delirious."

    It is useless to try to win these people by persuasion or advice. It will make no impression on them and may even produce contrary effects. The only method to be used is strictly supernatural: prayer, fasting, constant recourse to the Blessed Virgin. Their conversion requires a special grace from God, and God does not always grant the grace, in spite of many prayers and supplications. It is as if these sinners had exhausted the patience of God and are destined to be for all eternity the living testimony of rigorous divine justice, because they have abused divine mercy.

    We conclude with a statement by St. Teresa on the gravity of mortal sin:

        I once heard a spiritual man say that he was not so much astonished at the things done by a soul in mortal sin as at the things not done by it. May God, in his mercy, deliver us from such great evil, for there is nothing in the whole of our lives that so thoroughly deserves to be called evil as this, since it brings endless and eternal evils in its train.(6)
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    Its back from the dead. :(
    « Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 12:36:06 AM »
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  • Matthew,

    Where is your above quote from?

    Thanks!


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    « Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 08:22:25 AM »
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  • That is was ever "dead" was a dream, IMO.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 03:23:52 PM »
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  • Food safety bill might be dead

    Washington (CNN) -- A sweeping food safety bill that passed the House and Senate earlier this year before stalling because of a legislative technicality now will likely die because Republicans object to giving it quick approval in the waning days of the congressional session, Senate leadership aides on both sides of the aisle said Friday.

    The bill, designed to increase government inspections of the food supply in the wake of recent deadly food borne disease outbreaks, originally passed with wide support in the both chambers. However, it needs approval again because it violated a Constitutional requirement that bills that raise revenue initiate in the House.

    To pass it a second time, Democratic leaders attached it to a giant government-funding bill but Republicans blocked that measure Thursday, in part because it contained billions of dollars in earmarks.

    Democrats then wanted to attach it to a narrower government-funding bill that is expected to pass Saturday but Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, warned he would object if they did. A GOP leadership aide told CNN it would be impossible to approve the food bill quickly unless all Republicans support doing so.

    Coburn has said he opposes the bill because, he claims, it spends billions and increases government regulations without actually making the food supply safer.

    A Democratic leadership aide held out hope an 11th hour deal could save the bill the GOP leadership aide warned that it is not likely.
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    « Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 07:34:52 PM »
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  • Let's hope they don't attach it to something else.  :facepalm:
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

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    « Reply #8 on: December 19, 2010, 09:09:51 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew

    The second type of sinners comprises those who are weak, lacking in will power, strongly inclined to sensual pleasure, intellectually dull, listless, or cowardly. They lament their faults, they admire good people and would like to be one of them, but they lack the courage and energy to be so in reality. These dispositions do not excuse them from sin; on the contrary, they are more culpable than those who sin through ignorance, because they sin with a greater knowledge. But basically they are weak rather than evil. The person in charge of their spiritual welfare should be especially concerned with strengthening them in their good resolutions, leading them to the frequent reception of the sacraments, to reflection, and avoidance of the occasions of sin.


    Hey, Matthew! If you're going to write a biography of me, at least you could include a picture and some quotes!

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    The third type of sinners are those who sin with cold indifference, without remorse of conscience, silencing the faint voice of conscience in order to continue their life of sin without reproach. They do not want to give up their sin and are not concerned that their conduct offends God...


    The fourth class of sinners is the most culpable. These people sin through a refined malice and diabolical obstinacy. They may have begun as good Christians, but little by little they degenerated, yielding more and more to evil until their souls were definitively conquered. Then came the inevitable consequence of defection and apostasy. The last barriers have been broken, and now these people are susceptible to every kind of moral disorder. They attack religion and the Church and may even join a non-Catholic sect and propagate its doctrines with zeal and ardor. One such person deliberately closed the door to any possibility of a return to God by saying to his friends and relatives: "If at the hour of death I ask for a priest to hear my confession, do not bring him, because I shall be delirious."

    It is useless to try to win these people by persuasion or advice. It will make no impression on them and may even produce contrary effects. The only method to be used is strictly supernatural: prayer, fasting, constant recourse to the Blessed Virgin. Their conversion requires a special grace from God, and God does not always grant the grace, in spite of many prayers and supplications. It is as if these sinners had exhausted the patience of God and are destined to be for all eternity the living testimony of rigorous divine justice, because they have abused divine mercy.


    Yikes! It seems to me that most people in our modern world belong to one of the last two classes of sinners: willfull, openly rebellious, and obstinate.

    I classify myself as a Type Two sinner; at my worst I may have reached Type Three. I sincerely hope I was never a Type Four, God forbid. I have enough work to do to get out of the Type Two.

    At any rate, thank you for posting this. I had never seen it before. This system of four classes of sinners could be a good guide to consult from time to time.
    St. Jude, who, disregarding the threats of the impious, courageously preached the doctrine of Christ,
    pray for us.

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  • The Genesis of GMO Madness

    [The following passage is excerpted from "Commentary on Dangers of Genetically Modified Foods", By Edem Srem Sept. 2, 2009 GBC News]

    The history of controlling the food industry in the world by the then American Government in 1973 under President Nixon started by introducing the "Food for Peace" programme which was led by Henry Kissinger, Nixon's Secretary of State and National Security Adviser.*

    According to the New African Magazine, Kissinger controlled absolutely the US foreign policy and summarized his activities as "Control oil and you control nations, control food and you control the people". His idea of capturing the worldwide food industry started with the introduction of what was termed as the gene revolution. [End of article excerpt]



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    « Reply #11 on: December 21, 2010, 11:10:46 AM »
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  • PUSH BACK!

    http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=5395

    This is our last chance! They're voting on it today!!!!
    Matthew 5:37

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    « Reply #12 on: December 21, 2010, 01:37:12 PM »
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  • S 510 Fake Food Safety bill passed by Senate
    Tue 21 Dec 2010 12:34
    Source: vigilantcitizen.com

    Mike Adams
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    The infamous S.510 “food food safety bill” was passed by the US Senate last night in a sneaky, last minute voice vote. All Senators voted for it, Republicans and Democrats alike. Not a single U.S. Senator — not even Coburn — objected to its passage.

    With this vote, the US Senate now sends the bill back to the House of Representatives where it is due for a final vote as HR 2751 that would then send the bill to the White House for a presidential signature. This House vote could take place as early as tomorrow (Tuesday).
    A betrayal of food freedom

    This last-minute sneak vote of unanimous consent is widely considered a betrayal of food freedom by the few Republicans who had opposed this bill. TheHill.com posted their report on this unexpected turn of events late last night (thehill.com/blogs/healthwatc…) and has since been overrun by comments from steaming mad members of the public who feel utterly betrayed by their Senators.

    The Natural Solutions Foundation posted a blog entitled, “Betrayed by the GOP” which blasts Republican and Democratic lawmakers alike for approving this bureaucratic monster that will grow the size and power of the FDA (www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=7824).

    The Farm-To-Consumer Legal Defense Fund also posted an urgent action alert (www.farmtoconsumer.org/aa/aa…) urging people to call their representatives in Washington and oppose HR 2751.
    Take action now to block this bill in the House

    The U.S. House of Representatives meets Tuesday, which means we have 24 hours (or less) to fight back with an avalanche of phone calls to stop this bad, freedom-destroying bill from becoming law. The new bill name is HR 2751 (notice how they keep changing this around to confuse us?).

    Join the millions of people who actively oppose this bill by calling your representatives in Washington and urging them to oppose passage of the Food Safety Modernization Act. If you don’t already know the phone number of your representatives in the House, the capitol switchboard number is (202) 224-3121. Call that and they will connect you to your members of Congress.

    Sign the NaturalNews petition to halt HR 2751 at:
    org2.democracyinaction.org/o…

    And sign the petition from the Natural Solutions Foundation at: salsa.democracyinaction.org/…
    The betrayal

    It’s important to understand the depth of betrayal that has just been committed by the GOP members of the US Senate. Democratic members of the Senate, of course, have always voted for S.510 because it’s a bill that expands the power of government and will unleash an army of FDA inspectors who roam the countryside harassing farmers and small growers. The expansion of government power over the People has almost always been unanimously supported by Democratic Senators.

    But Republicans have been reluctant to see such a sudden expansion of FDA power and personnel. Some GOP members have opposed this bill because they see it as too overreaching, too powerful and too threatening to the food freedoms upon which this country was founded. So they tried to oppose the bill in order to keep the FDA out of our farms, gardens and greenhouses. And for a long time, Sen. Tom Coburn effectively blocked this bill from becoming law.

    But Senator Harry Reid — the King of Corruption in the Senate, in my opinion — kept pushing this bill, backed by Big Agribiz corporate supporters who can’t wait to see small farms buried under the burden of compliance that would be unleashed under the bill. And no, all small farms are NOT exempt from this bill. In the world of agriculture, a small family farm growing food on as little as twenty acres can easily exceed $1 million a year in revenues (without much profit, because there isn’t much profit in most crops) and thereby be subjected to FDA tyranny under S.510.

    S.510 is the Patriot Act of farming. And the reason it got so much support from the large corporations is because it will effectively destroy many small, local organic farms by suffocating them under a new regulatory burden — even when they’re not the problem to begin with! Food safety is only a problem because of the factory animal operations that comingle with large, corporate food operations, thereby contaminating fresh produce with animal-grown bacteria. E.coli, for example, cannot multiply in plants! It can only grow in the intestines of animals.
    Passed in the darkness of night

    It is especially noteworthy to observe that the US Senate passed this bill in the dark of night, during a late Sunday night session when they hoped nobody was watching. This is an action they simply could not take in broad daylight during a normal business day when people might be paying attention. So they pulled a “quarterback sneak” and thrust this bill forward in a late-night session where nobody — and I mean nobody — had the courage to take a stand and vote against it.

    This whole scheme has been fabricated from the start, by the way. The food safety scare stories were intentionally exaggerated to make it seem as if we were all about to die from eating fresh spinach. The food recalls were hyped up by the mainstream media in a huge way, without any honest reporting on the fact that you are statistically ten thousand times more likely to be killed by an FDA-approved drug than from eating fresh produce.

    Then the legislators got involved. And there’s no problem they don’t arrogantly think they can’t solve by expanding the power and reach of the federal government. So they got to work figuring out how to take the most dangerous and dishonest agency in the history of America (www.naturalnews.com/030461_S…) and give it more power!

    This is sort of like handing an arsonist a can of gasoline and a flamethrower. Gee, what do you think the FDA is going to do with all this power? They’re going to run rampant with it, of course. Give the TSA power and they reach down your pants and sɛҳuąƖly molest your children. Give the FDA power and they’ll use it to crush small, local organic farms in order to protect the profits of big business because the FDA has always sought to protect the profits of big business.
    How to crush small, local organic farms

    So for all you Americans who love to eat local food, or if you buy food from a local CSA or farmer’s market, you can kiss your local food goodbye in the near future. Once the FDA revs up its army of jackbooted thugs to start crushing small organic farmers, you are going to see a massive increase in the price of local food because supplies will begin to dwindle as small farmers are forced out of business by the Food Safety and Modernization Act.

    This is, of course, exactly what the FDA and Big Agribiz wants — a wipeout of the competition from small, local farmers. They want to dominate the food industry in the same way that Monsanto has dominated the seed industry. And that means crushing the small, independent food producers and family farm operations.

    So once again, our U.S. Senators have betrayed the very freedoms they swore to protect. It appears that when our forefathers wrote the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights, they neglected to add one provision that they never could have imagined would be necessary: The right to food freedom and the right to grow your own food on your own land, then sell that food to members of your local community without being harassed by federal government agents who come knocking on your greenhouse door and demand, “show me your papers.”

    Be sure to sign the petition from the Natural Solutions Foundation at: salsa.democracyinaction.org/…

    Also sign the NaturalNews petition to halt HR 2751 at:
    org2.democracyinaction.org/o…

    Take action now to protect your food freedoms (or we’ll lose them).
    What’s wrong with the Food Safety Modernization Act?

    These talking points have been provided courtesy of the Farm-To-Consumer Legal Defense Fund:

    The FDA Food Safety Modernization Act is fundamentally flawed and is not in the best interest of small farmers, especially those who produce raw milk. The Act is a major threat to the local food movement.

    1. FDA does not respect individuals’ rights to obtain healthy, quality foods of their choice. The agency has stated, as a matter of public record (www.ftcldf.org/litigation-FD…) that:

    “There is no absolute right to consume or feed children any particular food.”

    “Plaintiffs’ assertion of a ‘fundamental right to their own bodily and physical health, which includes what foods they do and do not choose to consume for themselves and their families’ is similarly unavailing because plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to obtain any food they wish.”

    FDA has even participated in armed raids on small-scale co-ops and membership organizations. This agency should not be given any additional power.

    2. FDA has adequate powers under existing law to ensure food safety and effectively deal with foodborne illness outbreaks. FDA has power to inspect, power to detain product and can readily obtain court orders to seize adulterated or misbranded food products or enjoin them from being sold. The problem isn’t that FDA needs more power; it’s that FDA does not effectively use the power it currently has. The agency has power to inspect imported food yet inspects only 1% of food coming into this country from outside our borders.

    3. S.510 does nothing to address many significant food safety problems in this country, such as those resulting from confined animal feeding operations (CAFOs), genetically modified organisms (GMOs), and various contaminants (e.g., BPA, pesticides, herbicides, etc.).

    4. FDA has used its existing power to benefit the pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries at the expense of public health (e.g., allowing the overuse of antibiotics in confined animal feeding operations and refusing to require labeling for genetically-modified foods). This bill does not address the fundamental problems at this agency in order to truly protect public health.

    5. S.510 will expand FDA’s involvement in regulating food in intra-state commerce, further interfering with local communities. State and local governments are more than capable of handling any problems related to food in intrastate commerce. All the major outbreaks of foodborne illness involve either imported food or food in inter-state commerce.

    6. S.510 will hurt our ability as a nation to be self-sufficient in food production because it has more lenient inspection requirements for foreign than domestic producers creating an unfair advantage for food imports. Giving an advantage to foreign producers will only increase the amount of food imported into this country that does not meet our domestic standards. S.510 does not address food security — the ability of a country to produce enough food to meet its own needs.

    Learn more: www.naturalnews.com/030789_Food_Safety_small_farmers.html#ixzz18lw9voSD
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    « Reply #13 on: December 21, 2010, 10:55:02 PM »
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  • It passed, and I was watching debate. :( The guy running the opposition to the bill kept reserving his time, and said that two people were supposed to speak against it, and didn't show up. Real, freaking, nice. So essentially, you had two people that spoke against it, and all these flaming liberals talking about how there was "very little opposition"  :facepalm: and citing all these organizations that have NOTHING to do with the bill at all, like the NAM, and the CoC. They're all fraudsters.

    I thought it was going to be a close vote, but it wasn't. Not like last time. It sailed right through. I was sick to my stomach. This is right out of the Henry Kissinger playbook.

    Strap on your seatbelts people. It's going to be a rough ride.
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