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Offline Dawn

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« on: April 29, 2009, 04:50:52 PM »
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  • As of today there are atleast two confirmed cases in my town of Geneva Illinois.


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    « Reply #1 on: April 29, 2009, 05:19:35 PM »
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  • I heard they've upgraded it to a level 5 now. Just a matter of time (God forbid) they start forcing people to get vaccinated.

    Question: What will you do if they come to your door and threaten to take your children away if you do not get them vaccinated?
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,


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    « Reply #2 on: April 29, 2009, 05:23:13 PM »
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  • One confirmed case in Milwaukee.

    Uggh.

    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #3 on: April 29, 2009, 07:28:43 PM »
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  • Is that where you are from? I have read that they are seriously thinking of martial law to enforce quarentine. So, that is a good question. I will not allow anyone into my house period. We should have rights. Should have. Guess that is a thing of the past. I do not allow my children to be immunized. I will try with all my might and pray to make my family invisible to them when they come. What will you do? Do you think this is coming?

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    « Reply #4 on: April 29, 2009, 07:46:59 PM »
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  • If this isn't it, this is a practice exercise for what's coming when this thing mutates into a "full blown" thing, or something else comes out. I'm not from Milwaukee, I'm from north of there.

    My husband and I discussed it, and if they try to force their way over here, and make our children take a vaccine, they'll have to walk over our dead bodies before they do.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,


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    « Reply #5 on: April 29, 2009, 07:57:39 PM »
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  • Have you not ever considered moving into a country where there is no vaccines program at all if you are so afraid of it ?

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    « Reply #6 on: April 29, 2009, 08:36:52 PM »
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  • Mark Glenn(SSPX)is on RBN at this time saying that the Swine Flu scare is phoney and being used by the media to cover up a breaking Israeli spy scandal involving Jane Harmon and others. He has pointed out that about 100 people a day die from some form of Flu in the US on a normal basis.

    Strange because Kevin James has been on KRLA the past few nights saying that the Swine scare is being used to cover up the AF One- NYC debacle.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #7 on: April 30, 2009, 06:34:53 AM »
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  • Vandaler, what flu scare, what level 6 pandemic scare, what laws that are being passed in America faster than you can blink, all of them taking aware freedom and surely pushing us into a socialist/communist state. I am sure that we are still imagining these things as you have always pointed out to us.
    You have to have money to move. And I do love America, and up until know have been able to just say no to vaccines. That is until the new administration that will change all that.
    But I will not worry because you have always told us that we were funny and not thinking straight. So, if I step into the looking glass and drink the little bottle of potion on the table I too will be in wonderland.
    Further comments by me will be to those discussing the flu and the REAL remifictions of this.


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    « Reply #8 on: April 30, 2009, 07:12:44 AM »
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  • Quote from: Dawn
    Vandaler, what flu scare, what level 6 pandemic scare, what laws that are being passed in America faster than you can blink, all of them taking aware freedom and surely pushing us into a socialist/communist state. I am sure that we are still imagining these things as you have always pointed out to us.


    I personally don't see the link between vaccines and freedom.  There is no vaccines against swine flu anyhow as of yet, so any scare in that regards is overblown.

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    You have to have money to move. And I do love America, and up until know have been able to just say no to vaccines. That is until the new administration that will change all that.


    You have been able to say no to vaccines because most families complies with them.  It is the good citizenry of others that permits those who choose not to do it to get away with it safely.  Who cares if a kid is not vaccinated when he plays 20 others that are.  If no one gets vaccinated, we would be back to fighting diseases that have been by and large eradicated.

    Your certainty that this Adminsitration will force vacciantions everyone is not supported in facts.

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    But I will not worry because you have always told us that we were funny and not thinking straight. So, if I step into the looking glass and drink the little bottle of potion on the table I too will be in wonderland.


    I urge you to worry less, not more.

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    Further comments by me will be to those discussing the flu and the REAL remifictions of this.


    The only REAL ramifications you can discuss are those that you KNOW.  And knowledge does not come out of your worst fears and prejudice, but rather by facts that you can verify.

    I know I come across as a bully, or as someone that ridicule, but I always extend the same respect I am given.  I don't mean to down play you Dawn, I am just trying to enrich you with another point of view, something I feel you do not expose yourself to very much.

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    « Reply #9 on: April 30, 2009, 10:54:20 AM »
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  • Actually, there is ample evidence that vaccines haven't done much to help eradicate any disease.

    "We've eradicated many diseases because of vaccines" is a common myth, but a myth nonetheless.

    The facts are that better sanitation, sewage treatment, drinking water treatment, hygeine, etc. would have wiped out several diseases 50 or 100 years ago, with or without vaccines.

    Moreover -- even smallpox, which has MOSTLY been wiped out as a communicable disease, is being "kept alive" by our wonderful government. So even "eradicating disease" is a moot point when you have psychopaths at the helm of government around the world -- especially psychopaths that are known openly to favor reducing the world's population drastically.

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    « Reply #10 on: April 30, 2009, 11:18:56 AM »
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  • The decision to take a vaccine or not is always a balance between the risk posed by the disease you are seeking to avoid, and the side effect risks associated with the vaccine itself.

    To hold preconceived ideas that applies to all vaccines and all diseases is foolhardy.







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    « Reply #11 on: April 30, 2009, 11:42:44 AM »
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  • I concede that there might be a few vaccines that are worth the risk, especially if you limit the discussion to healthy adults.

    However, the whole idea of "well visits" (which didn't exist 50 years ago, by the way) and giving children under 2 years old -- and as young as 10 days old -- "combination" vaccines for all kinds of diseases -- that is totally insane.

    In ALL cases, the combo vaccine was never tested. The individual vaccines might have been, but not the combination. That alone is serious. Then there's the issue of aluminum, mercury, and other "heavy metals" that accuмulate in the brain being present in the vaccines.

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    « Reply #12 on: April 30, 2009, 11:43:11 AM »
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  • You sir are wrong if you think I do not know what I am  talking about. I have studied this for 12 years. And there is more damage done by vaccines than not. My children have never had any reason to see a doctor since the day they were born. They are healthy and much healthier than children we associate who have gone through the stalls in the cattle roundup. When it comes to knowing how to take care of my children and my religion I am perhaps as Obsessive Compulsive as you are in finding fault in what we say.
    Yes, they want mandatory vaccines and yes ther is a government plan to go door to door and force it.
    And just for the record it will be a cold day in Hell before my children are injected with themersol preserved aborted fetal tissue. It is real. How sir you choose to raise your children is up to you, but we here have a diffrent way of thinking and are educated and not alarmists.

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    « Reply #13 on: April 30, 2009, 11:49:53 AM »
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  • Quote from: Dawn
    When it comes to knowing how to take care of my children and my religion I am perhaps as Obsessive Compulsive as you are in finding fault in what we say.


     :laugh2:

    Cool sentence.

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    Yes, they want mandatory vaccines and yes there is a government plan to go door to door and force it.


    I appreciate your passion, but I believe you are wrong.  We shall see soon enough.

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    « Reply #14 on: April 30, 2009, 12:28:33 PM »
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  • How do you undo the negative affects of vaccinations? Or can you?