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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2014, 12:47:33 PM »
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  • A report issued by researchers and doctors from the Physicians for Civil Defense has suggested that the stress of evacuation related to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear generating station has produced greater health risks than the radiation exposure itself.

    Jane Orient, M.D., the president of Physicians for Civil Defense, announced the findings in a release on October 2 from Tucson, Arizona.

    A total of about 172,000 people have evacuated within a 30 kilometer radius of the Fukushima Daiichi plant. Many were forced out or were otherwise advised to evacuate.

    Dr. Orient stated that the radiation doses the population was exposed to was not as dangerous as the stress brought on by evacuation. “The stress of evacuation can itself cause death, so it is important not to over-react,” stated Dr. Orient.

    “Panic that leads to disruptions in people’s lives is deadly as well as costly,” Dr. Orient continued. “It’s especially tragic when fear-driven measures ‘protect’ people from levels of radiation that are far more likely to benefit than to harm them.”

    Despite the panic echoed through the media, it turns out that the dose levels, even in the red zones closest to the reactors, were lower than normal background radiation levels in a number of other parts of the world. The red zones around the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear reactors peaked at about 0.2 rad/day or 2 millisieverts per day (mSv/day), which is equivalent to about 600 millisieverts per year (mSv/yr).

    Research has illustrated that regions of France, India, Iran and Brazil normally have background exposure levels that come close to or exceed these. Regions in Brazil and West France, for example can easily exceed 700 mSv/year, while areas of Iran often exceed 400 mSv/year. And none of these areas have little evidence of increased cancer incidence.

    Many state that the Fukushima accident compares with the Chernobyl nuclear accident. Actually, the exposure was far less. Furthermore, research has indicated that public health officials overestimated the death toll due to the Chernobyl accident by at least 800,000 people. The first study to find this was led by Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, a physician and professor, and former Chairman of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation, and Chairman of the Scientific Council of the Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection. Dr. Jaworoski’s research found that not only was the Chernobyl death rate overestimated, but the amount of exposure was greatly exaggerated.

    “The projections of thousands of late cancer deaths based on LNT (linear non-thresholds) are in conflict with observations that in comparison with general population of Russia, a 15% to 30% deficit in solid cancer mortality was found among Russian emergency workers, and a 5% deficit of solid cancer incidence among the population of most contaminated areas,” Dr. Jaworoski wrote.

    The research also found that the total radiation emission given off by Chernobyl into the atmosphere was 200 times less than the amount released from the explosion of 543 nuclear bombs that have been exploded in the atmosphere since 1945. The highest environmental exposure from the bombs was 0.113 mSv in 1963.

    Those living in the contaminated areas of Russia in the decade after the Chernobyl accident were exposed to only 0.76 mSv/year to 0.9 mSv/year.

    More interestingly, Jaworoski’s research also found that mortality rates among the most exposed people were lower than mortality rates found in areas with typically high background rates of radiation.

    Denver residents are exposed to 3 mSv/year plus a dose of 2.4 mSv/year in background exposure. The International Commission on Radiation Protection (ICRP)’s standard for evacuation is 1 mSv/year, which would require Denver to evacuate immediately.

    Dr. Richard Muller – physics professor at University of California, Berkeley – has called the 3 mSv/year plus 2.4mSv/year in background radiation the “Denver dose.”

    Dr. Jaworoski’s research found that that cancer rates in the Chernobyl contaminated areas were lower among those exposed to greater levels of radiation.

    Dr. Jaworoski’s data also determined that the screening for cancer had more to do with the higher rates of diagnosis than anything else. Higher rates of illnesses were later found by UN investigators to be attributed to the high rate of smoking and drinking of residents. The 2005 UN report stated: “No evidence or likelihood of decreased fertility among the affected population has been found, nor has there been any evidence of congenital malformations.”

    “The ‘cancer dose’ that some people calculate assumes that even one ‘hit’ from a gamma ray can induce a cancer,” said Dr. Orient. “In fact, every cell in the body experiences 200,000 ‘hits’ per day from natural processes. Low-dose radiation stimulates the natural repair mechanisms.”

    The report also extrapolated estimates of average lifetime radiation exposures over a 70 year lifespan. The U.S. average is 180 mSv/life, Sweden is 410 mSv/life, Finland is 510 mSv/life, Chernobyl’s “high contamination” region is 480 mSv/life, Kerala, India, a coastal region, averages 1,600-14,000 mSv/life, and Ramsar, Iran averages 18,200 mSv/life.

    Sweden and Finland happen to have some of the longest average lifespans as well.

    Accidental radiation exposure from cobalt-60 contaminated steel in Taiwan apartments actually seemed to immunize residents against cancer, according to a study published in 2004.

    The issue of evacuation criteria for radiation accidents is being reviewed by Doctors for Disaster Preparedness. After a recent meeting they have proposed that an evacuation standard should reflect the normal background radiation of that region rather than be a one-size-fits-all.

    Our bodies are more resilient than we might think. And we might be actually seeing the effects of radiation killing off growing cancers elsewhere due to a stimulation of the immune system.

    This doesn’t mean that radiation exposures are not disastrous to life and the environment in the short and long run. They certainly are. They have the affect of rearranging nature. We might think that our immune systems become tolerant in the short-run, but the long-term effects to our children’s DNA is largely uncertain. For example, a study published in Ecological Indicators found that populations of birds, cicadas and butterflies decreased in Fukushima- and Chernobyl-contaminated areas, while populations of dragonflies, bumblebees and grasshoppers remained intact. Meanwhile spider populations increased significantly. This rearranging of species mirrors the genetic changes we will likely see over time.

    While we cannot ignore other studies that show that radiation can produce cancer, when it comes to longer-term environmental radiation dosage, we must draw from a deeper perspective – one that includes immunity, tolerance and the ability of the body to adapt to environmental radiation.

    The fact is, our bodies are more tolerant than we like to admit. Remaining healthy is part of encouraging that tolerance. It is for this reason that a number of natural substances, such as kelps and spirulina, have been shown to be cancer-protective in radiation exposures. Changing the world will require significant effort and we can be part of that change. But in the meantime, we can also teach our bodies to become more tolerant.

    Learn more about electromagnetic frequencies (EMFs) and radiation.

    REFERENCES:
    Jaworowski, Z. Observations on the Chernobyl Disaster and LNT. International Dose-Response Society 2010; 1559-3258.

    Physicians for Civil Defense. The Aftermath of Fukushima. Civil Defense Perspectives September 2012, Vol. 28 No. 6.

    Anders Pape Møllera, Isao Nishiumic, Hiroyoshi Suzukid, Keisuke Uedab, Timothy A. Mousseaue. Differences in effects of radiation on abundance of animals in Fukushima and Chernobyl. Ecol Indic. 2013 Jan (24): 75-81.

    Muller R. Energy for Future Presidents: The Science Behind the Headlines. WW Norton, 2012.

    Adams C. Electromagnetic Health: Making Sense of the Research and Practical Solutions for Electromagnetic Fields (EMF) and Radio Frequencies (RF). Logical Books, 2010.


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    « Reply #16 on: January 01, 2014, 04:45:31 PM »
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  • Is The Government Stockpiling Iodine In Preparation for Fukushima Meltdown?

    Fukushima Meltdown?  

      http://www.infowars.com/is-the-government-stockpiling-iodine-in-preparation-for-fukushima-meltdown/

    Government purchase of 14 million iodine doses points to silent Fukushima meltdown preparation.

    Anthony Gucciardi
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     January 1, 2014

    UPDATE: Plumes of mysterious steam rise from crippled nuclear reactor at Fukushima

    Following the revelation that The Department of Health and Human Services has ordered 14 million doses of potassium iodide to be available by no later than the first of February, it is easy to see that the same federal government responsible for silently raising the allowable limits of radiation in the food supply and turning off key radiation counters positioned in the west coast may now silently be preparing for a future Fukushima meltdown.

    The same type of Fukushima plant meltdown that has been predicted by leading scientists, such as those who spoke out against Fukushima’s dangers while attending the scientific symposium at the University of Alberta just a few months ago. Scientists like David Suzuki went on record in stating that Fukushima is just an earthquake away from devastating Japan and swallowing other nations with its radioactive fallout.

    During the conference, Suzuki said:

    “I have seen a paper which says that if in fact the fourth plant goes under in an earthquake and those rods are exposed, it’s bye bye Japan and everybody on the west coast of North America should evacuate.”

    And Suzuki is not the only one with major concerns. In fact, Suzuki is perhaps one of the very few who actually received media attention due to his celebrity status as a recipient of 16 significant academic awards and host of the popular CBC Television program entitled ‘The Nature of Things’. Yale University professor Charles Perrow has voiced similar concerns in a telling piece entitled ‘Fukushima Forever’, which highlights the very serious threat of nuclear meltdown as a result of human error when it comes to removing the plant’s spent fuel rods.

    A danger that the United States government certainly recognizes as legitimate based on the analysis of top experts, and undoubtedly is silently preparing for behind the scenes.

    Perrow writes:


    Much more serious is the danger that the spent fuel rod pool at the top of the nuclear plant number four will collapse in a storm or an earthquake, or in a failed attempt to carefully remove each of the 1,535 rods and safely transport them to the common storage pool 50 meters away. Conditions in the unit 4 pool, 100 feet from the ground, are perilous, and if any two of the rods touch it could cause a nuclear reaction that would be uncontrollable. The radiation emitted from all these rods, if they are not continually cool and kept separate, would require the evacuation of surrounding areas including Tokyo. Because of the radiation at the site the 6,375 rods in the common storage pool could not be continuously cooled; they would fission and all of humanity will be threatened, for thousands of years.


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    « Reply #17 on: January 01, 2014, 06:09:14 PM »
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  • Critique of David Suzuki.

    1. “Fukushima is the most terrifying situation I can imagine.” - Suzuki

    David Measday, nuclear and particle physicist (University of British Columbia)

    “People are really exaggerating this. I mean, over 20,000 people were killed in the tsunami. As far as we know, no one was killed by radiation.”

    Marcello Pavan

    “As scientists talking around the lunchroom, we are more or less of a unanimous opinion that the hysteria around Fukushima is grossly overblown [...] With the supersensitive detectors we have at our disposal, [radiation] levels are way below anything that anybody has to worry about. We're subjected to background radiation from the moment we're born. I mean, every banana you've ever eaten has radioactive potassium in it.”

    2. “They're lying through their teeth.” - Suzuki

    Marcello Pavan

    “That is absolutely correct, at least from what I see. TEPCO has been minimizing the effects of what is happening. But here we have a large industrial concern lying to the government about an accident related to its business—is that news?”

    David Measday

    “It's very difficult to find exact information, because of course they don't tell you everything. I've talked to a few Japanese physicists, but they don't know either. But now they have no reason to lie about the amount of radiation there is [...] The critical thing is, what is the level and how bad is it for humans?”

    3. “...if there's another earthquake of 7 or above, that building will go and all hell breaks loose.” - Suzuki

    David Measday

    “Chernobyl actually exploded half the reactor into the atmosphere. That's as bad as you can get. At Fukushima, there was nowhere near that level [...] I don't deny there could be a small chance that things could go wrong. An earthquake or tsunami would probably be the worst, but if it's of that magnitude the radiation would be a much lesser concern.”

    4. “Thirteen-hundred rods of spent fuel [...] They're pouring water in but water's leaking out.” - Suzuki

    Malcolm Crick

    “Radioactive isotopes are migrating into that groundwater and then towards the sea [...] The level of radionuclides in the harbor right there by the damaged plant seem to be increasing recently. But to give perspective, they're below the levels that WHO uses for determining the quality of drinking water.”

    Marcello Pavan

    “There's clearly issues with radioactivity in the water. Cooling water is leaking into the groundwater and into the ocean. But the ocean's a big place; the levels of radiation are dispersed. It's completely negligible.”

    5. “They don't know what to do [...] The Japanese government has too much pride to admit that.” - Suzuki

    Helen Caldicott

    “TEPCO is trying to move those damaged rods by crane manually, which has never, ever been done before; usually fuel rods are moved by computer control. If two fuel rods happened to touch, there could be a fission reaction releasing huge amounts of radioactive gases. This would be a catastrophe. The radiation would circle the Northern Hemisphere.”

    David Measday

    “The Japanese were very careful, they built all their reactors to very high levels. I don't think it would breach... They probably have done as well as you possibly could with their existing reactors. What they failed to do was to estimate the size of the [2011] tsunami. But if there were another tsunami, they still haven't totally prepared for it. They could be in trouble again.”

    6. “It's bye-bye Japan—and everybody on the west coast of North America should evacuate.” - Suzuki

    David Measday

    “I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous. It's totally impossible! I can't believe he would say that. When he's in his own field, he's usually reasonable. But this is just crazy.”

    Marcello Pavan

    “It doesn't in any remote sense seem plausible. It's contaminated material, yes, but certainly not on a scale that would devastate Japan, nor travel all way across the Pacific and cause an evacuation."

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    « Reply #18 on: January 02, 2014, 12:43:16 AM »
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  • Study: Dead sea creatures covered 98% of seafloor last year about 150 miles off California coast; Unprecedented, had been below 1% prior to event — ‘Major’ changes began in spring 2011



    Dead sea creature count on ocean floor
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #19 on: January 02, 2014, 01:04:01 AM »
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  • I just viewed a video in which a radiation detector already proved that
    the radiation from Fukushima has already hit the beaches of San
    Francisco with readings up to 160 cps or counts per second.


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    « Reply #20 on: January 02, 2014, 11:49:31 AM »
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  • Quote from: Director
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    No, not in any significant way. America is a huge country, the Pacific Ocean is huge and Japan is 7000 miles away. If Americans were at serious risk of being poisoned then Japs would be dropping like flies, since they are much closer to the source.


    Oh Really ,,, Maybe one of these stories will wake you up and those who live on the west coast.   Read and weep... You can get this on Rense.com


    Fukushima Radiation Plume , Nears West Coast - Graphs & Vid

    Fukushima Radiation Blasted US In March 2011 - Model

    TEPCO Fukushima Live Cam

    Real Time World Earthquake Monitor

    Gunderson - Reagan Sailors Horrific Radiation Exposure - Vid

    Fukushima - Global Elite Political Theater

    Powerful Quake Hits Northeast Japan - Tokyo Rocked

    Experts Suggest Radiation Is Killing US Bald Eagles

    Researchers - Radiation May Be Wiping Out Starfish

    Japan Homeless Forced Into Work At Fukushima

    Huge Drop In AK King Salmon - No Comment, NOAA Biologist

    Cesium-137 Increasing In Fukushima Port Since June

    R2 Seaside Radiation Keeps Climbing - 2,100,000,000 Bq/m3

    Alt Media Shows Poor Understanding Of Fukushima Crisis

    Japan, Saudis To Talk About Building Nuke Plants In KSA

    Bald Eagles Dying, Paralyzed, Seizures In Western US - Vid

    Gunderson - Fukushima Melted Fuel Moved By Groundwater - Vid

    Steam Coming From Fukushima MOX R3 Building Multiple Times

    Journalist Sued For 67m Yen Over Nuclear Industry Story

    Tritium Rising Beside Groundwater Wells - 34,000,000 Bq/m3

    Japan Seafood Exports Measuring Between 15-20 Bq/kg

    Update - Radiation On Northern CA Beach...It's Here - Vid

    Wilcox - Nuclear Energy...Forever Damage To Human Life

    Radiation In Your Body Via Sea Spray, Rain, Fog, Food, Water

    Myths Of Our Time - Cheap Nuclear Power & Abundant Uranium

    Fukushima Radiation Pouring Into Environment, Food Chain

    Expert Talks Of Fukushima 'Sacrifice Zone' Of Millions

    70+ USS Reagan Sailors - Cancer, Surgeries, Grief - Vid

    JAPAN NRC Sidesteps Nuke Waste Issue

    Retired Univ CO Prof Blasts New Pro Nuke Docuмentary

    South Africa - Nation That Gave Up Its Nukes

    Starfish Continue To Turn To Mush Along West Coast

    Technology Doesn't Exist To 'Clean Up' Fukushima

    Inspection Of Damaged Fuel Assembly In R4 SFP

    C-134-137 At 25 Meters Underground Up 2.9x In 8 Days!

    1,000,000 Bq/m3 Tritium In Fukushima Groundwater Well

    TEPCO Mum On Leaks Despite Soaring Seaside Rad Spike

    TEPCO Pays Evacuees More For 'Loss Of Hometowns'

    Toshiba To Buy Majority Stake In UK Nuke Consortium

    Fukushima Radiation Will Kill 600,000 (how about millions)

    Thyroid Cancers Surge Among Fukushima Youths

    Russia - Fukushima Radiation Spreading All Over World

    TEPCO Pays Fishermen For Radioactive Fish

    Fukushima Killing Fish, Ocean And West Coast


    More...
     




    Fukushima Radiation On US Latest Updates

    National Nuclear Emergency Map
     Updated 24/7 In Real Time

    Chart Of Radiation Dose Levels In Millisieverts

    Jeff & Dr. Russell Blaylock - Supplements
     To Fight Radiation Exposure - Vid

    EnviroReporter US EPA RadNet Data

    Live National Radiation Network Map

    West LA - Santa Monica Live Readings

    Radiation Dose Chart

    The Radiation Database User Guide - Vid

    Update - Radiation On Northern CA Beach...It's Here - Vid

    Radiation Alerts Issued For Las Vegas And Idaho Falls

    Fukushima Radiation Deforms OR Tomatoes? - Pics

    Testing Near SF For Ocean Radiation - Food Worries Grow - Vid

    Mexico Cobalt-60 Truck EMPTY - Thieves Will Die In Days

    Graph Of FIRST Fukushima Radiation Plume About To Hit CA - Pic

     


    Wow! Thank you for all your work and a helpful resource.
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    « Reply #21 on: January 02, 2014, 11:51:48 AM »
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    Besides, even if you were right and dangerous levels of radiation were raining down all over America want the heck could society do about it?

    The US government could not solve the problem.  The US would be contaminated and there would not be any way of cleaning the soil.  You would simply have to live with it, take some iodine tablets and hope for the best.

    Why worry about stuff you can do absolutely nothing about?


    Why don't you stop preaching "learned helplessness," deal with your cognitive dissonance, get busy researching, and find out the best kind of iodine to protect your throid and those of your loved ones.
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    « Reply #22 on: January 02, 2014, 11:55:44 AM »
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  • Quote from: ggreg
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    Read and weep ,,, Most people don t know what s going on , I am here to inform them.  
    People like you are doing a disservice .  Covering up for our corrupt gov t.

    You can go back and put your head in the sand..


    No, you are irrationally spreading panic because you feel it gives meaning and purpose to your otherwise failed life.

    There is absolutely no evidence that the Fukushima accident represents a dangerous disaster for Americans or will result in an increase in cancer that will be statistically detectable.   If there was the rich, who are smart and would pay money and assets to scientists to prolong their lives would be abandoning the US wholesale.

    It is a total nonsense to believe that failures like you and nutters who read rense.com have discovered that a huge amount of radiation is failing over America and cancer is going to shoot up by 200 percent and that scientists have failed to detect this or for some reason decided to remain quiet and let their loved ones get poisoned.


    How is it "irrationally spreading panic" to provide links to numerous news sources? btw, what is the "g" for? .gov? as in .gov greg. Cute.
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    « Reply #23 on: January 02, 2014, 12:26:10 PM »
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    How is it "irrationally spreading panic" to provide links to numerous news sources? btw, what is the "g" for? .gov? as in .gov greg. Cute.


    My exact thoughts ,,, Tks...  "G" as in "Government" disinformation people..  
    Beware of the "G" s ..

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  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    I just viewed a video in which a radiation detector already proved that
    the radiation from Fukushima has already hit the beaches of San
    Francisco with readings up to 160 cps or counts per second.


    One cheap radiation detector from best buy "proves" absolutely nothing.

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    Besides, even if you were right and dangerous levels of radiation were raining down all over America want the heck could society do about it?

    The US government could not solve the problem.  The US would be contaminated and there would not be any way of cleaning the soil.  You would simply have to live with it, take some iodine tablets and hope for the best.

    Why worry about stuff you can do absolutely nothing about?


    Why don't you stop preaching "learned helplessness," deal with your cognitive dissonance, get busy researching, and find out the best kind of iodine to protect your throid and those of your loved ones.


    Because I am not a foolish gullible idiot.  I don't feel any need to worry and stress about fictional threats.

    There is not a single death connected to the radiation leak from Fukushima.  So in the next year the number of deaths or cases of terminal cancer will be exceeded a hundredfold and maybe a thousandfold by crazed blogger websites and their silly videos.

    Even Chernobyl was massively overhyped and that was a much larger and dirtier leak.  A nasty accident certainly, but not a global disaster, not even close.



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  • Plus, I can recall all the bullshit and fear-mongering hype on this and other Trad forums about the Deepwater Horizon, destroying the Gulf for decades etc etc.

    The Cassandras have been wrong too many times and they NEVER resist the urge to be moderate and keep their powder dry.

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    « Reply #27 on: January 02, 2014, 06:30:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: ggreg
    Plus, I can recall all the b****t and fear-mongering hype on this and other Trad forums about the Deepwater Horizon, destroying the Gulf for decades etc etc.

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    The Gulf has been, and is continuing to be, destroyed because of the spill and its "clean up" (corexit). You see this problem in black and white. You seem to view something as destroyed only if it is completely dead soon after catastrophe. Life does not necessarily work that way.

    Also, watch your mouth. There are children who come to this forum.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)