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Traditional Catholic Faith => Health and Nutrition => Topic started by: Matthew on April 21, 2021, 12:35:42 PM
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Of course I use the term "Vax" extremely loosely -- to include experimental gene therapy -- a medical treatment which doesn't even SUGGEST that you won't get, die from, or spread the thing it's supposedly "inoculating you" against.
Crazy, I know. But such is the world we live in.
No need to comment in the thread. Just take the poll, completely αnσnymσus.
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Of course I use the term "Vax" extremely loosely -- to include experimental gene therapy -- a medical treatment which doesn't even SUGGEST that you won't get, die from, or spread the thing it's supposedly "inoculating you" against.
Crazy, I know. But such is the world we live in.
No need to comment in the thread. Just take the poll, completely αnσnymσus.
Like I said, if it was me, I'd make the poll only answer Yes, that way there is no pressure in being the "odd ball" when 10 people have put No.
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I'd make the poll only answer Yes, that way there is no pressure in being the "odd ball" when 10 people have put No.
Nah, a poll with just one answer is silly. It's αnσnymσus enough. I want to know that people actually voted, even if that vote is "no".
The disadvantage of your idea is that even if you had "0 votes" because the only option was Yes, you wouldn't know if 100 people said NO WAY to the vaccine, or if the poll was just ignored.
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I don't think the question is detailed enough. Perhaps adding the word willingly, but even then. I don't want to take the vaxx, but I fear they will force it on people. Would you take the vaxx if you will not be able to buy or sell without it or even leave your house? Will you take the vaxx if when you refuse they will forcibly starve you to death? Will you take the vaxx if otherwise they will send you to camps and take your children away to be raised by sơdơmites? Will you take the vaxx if they have a gun to your head and force you to take it or otherwise will kill you, or would you shoot the police only for more police to arrive and kill you and your family? And then they could force you to take the vaxx anyway and then still put you in the camps. So I fear we will not have a choice to say "no".
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I don't think the question is detailed enough. Perhaps adding the word willingly, but even then. ... Would you take the vaxx if you will not be able to buy or sell without it or even leave your house? Will you take the vaxx if when you refuse they will forcibly starve you to death? Will you take the vaxx if otherwise they will send you to camps and take your children away to be raised by sơdơmites? Will you take the vaxx if they have a gun to your head and force you to take it or otherwise will kill you, or would you shoot the police only for more police to arrive and kill you and your family?
I was thinking that too. I think there are likely many people who say "no" for now, but when the going gets rough... we'll see.
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I was thinking that too. I think there are likely many people who say "no" for now, but when the going gets rough... we'll see.
And it could be every single person who says no, but I think Matthew is focusing on our intent.
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I would like a third option: Hell no! Under no circuмstances whatsoever, no matter the cost, never.
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The connexion to abortion is in a way beside the point for me. The jab does an inferior job to the immune system and can be dramatically harmful for some. It is also of a piece with the deeply sinister lockdown regime, which in Ireland has seen a ban on Mass and normal social activities.
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Out of 300+ of my extended family, there are only two serious Catholics among them, both older. Except for those two, I now doubt there are any in the 300+ that will not get the shot.
My wife, my children and I are like Noah and his family, eight of us, we will be the new beginning of the family tree.
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I don't think the question is detailed enough. Perhaps adding the word willingly, but even then. I don't want to take the vaxx, but I fear they will force it on people. Would you take the vaxx if you will not be able to buy or sell without it or even leave your house? Will you take the vaxx if when you refuse they will forcibly starve you to death? Will you take the vaxx if otherwise they will send you to camps and take your children away to be raised by sơdơmites? Will you take the vaxx if they have a gun to your head and force you to take it or otherwise will kill you, or would you shoot the police only for more police to arrive and kill you and your family? And then they could force you to take the vaxx anyway and then still put you in the camps. So I fear we will not have a choice to say "no".
I think the point of the question is to find out if a person plans to get the jab. Obviously we can't foresee every future contingency. But if you don't plan to get it, I think the sense of the question would indicate for you to vote no.
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Never.
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I don't think the question is detailed enough. Perhaps adding the word willingly, but even then. I don't want to take the vaxx, but I fear they will force it on people. Would you take the vaxx if you will not be able to buy or sell without it or even leave your house? Will you take the vaxx if when you refuse they will forcibly starve you to death? Will you take the vaxx if otherwise they will send you to camps and take your children away to be raised by sơdơmites? Will you take the vaxx if they have a gun to your head and force you to take it or otherwise will kill you, or would you shoot the police only for more police to arrive and kill you and your family? And then they could force you to take the vaxx anyway and then still put you in the camps. So I fear we will not have a choice to say "no".
There’s always a choice😀
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There’s always a choice😀
Yes, we'd have to discuss those details in the "Members Only" subforum, but yes, there's a plan for that.
https://www.cathinfo.com/men-only/a-must-read-for-all-men/
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The only way I’ll get it is if I’m given it by irresistible force. Example, I’m rendered unconscious by physical force and injected. No fault of my own. Whatever the consequences, it’s not on my conscience.
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Not willingly!
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And then they could force you to take the vaxx anyway and then still put you in the camps. So I fear we will not have a choice to say "no".
The only way I’ll get it is if I’m given it by irresistible force. Example, I’m rendered unconscious by physical force and injected. No fault of my own. Whatever the consequences, it’s not on my conscience.
Earlier, I wasn't able to address Matto's last point, above, though I wanted to. I think Seraphina's excellent post here does a good job of it.
[And perhaps Sean's & Matthew's, but in a different way. ::) ]
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Don't get the vaccine. It is the mark of the Beast. Do all you can to resist.
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VACCINE
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Don't get the ναccιnє. It is the mark of the Beast. Do all you can to resist.
You can use the Nuremberg Code (1947). If you are forced to have this vaccine, all involved become war criminals. Matter of
a fact this is not a vaccine because it has not gone through the rigid tests that takes 5-10 years. Already people have died
and are very ill after taking this poison. It is many more than CDC cares to admit. Many casualties of this vaccine is not
even reported.
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I don't want to take the vaxx, but I fear they will force it on people. Would you take the vaxx if you will not be able to buy or sell without it or even leave your house? Will you take the vaxx if when you refuse they will forcibly starve you to death? Will you take the vaxx if otherwise they will send you to camps and take your children away to be raised by sơdơmites? Will you take the vaxx if they have a gun to your head and force you to take it or otherwise will kill you, or would you shoot the police only for more police to arrive and kill you and your family? And then they could force you to take the vaxx anyway and then still put you in the camps. So I fear we will not have a choice to say "no".
I try to remember this verse when faced with all the frightening scenarios of these times:
God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that which you are able: but will make also with temptation issue, that you may be able to bear it."
[1 Corinthians 10:13]
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Would you take the vaxx if you will not be able to buy or sell without it or even leave your house? Will you take the vaxx if when you refuse they will forcibly starve you to death? Will you take the vaxx if otherwise they will send you to camps and take your children away to be raised by sơdơmites? Will you take the vaxx if they have a gun to your head and force you to take it or otherwise will kill you, or would you shoot the police only for more police to arrive and kill you and your family? And then they could force you to take the vaxx anyway and then still put you in the camps. So I fear we will not have a choice to say "no".
Yes we DO have a choice.
My DH and I have discussed all these possibilities and have decided to refuse. We refuse to participate in "benefiting" from a product made from the hysterectomies of aborted babies (in order to remove the baby's body intact) and within 5 minutes of birth have their kidneys cut out of their bodies to create demonic HEK cell lines.
When I think about standing in judgement before Almighty God, I will stand as a repentant sinner who made the right decision on this issue.
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I was thinking that too. I think there are likely many people who say "no" for now, but when the going gets rough... we'll see.
We have a better chance of making the right choice if we begin to pray now for the courage to do so.
If we say to ourselves, maybe I will, maybe I won't -- we are being wishy-washy.
How do you think the early Roman martyrs coped?
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The connexion to abortion is in a way beside the point for me. The jab does an inferior job to the immune system and can be dramatically harmful for some. It is also of a piece with the deeply sinister lσcкdσωn regime, which in Ireland has seen a ban on Mass and normal social activities.
The jab has many problems, as you point out.
But its potential damage to my body doesn't strengthen my resolve to refuse.
Not wanting to offend God by "benefiting" from the murder of an innocent baby is what strengthens my resolve.
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Out of 300+ of my extended family, there are only two serious Catholics among them, both older. Except for those two, I now doubt there are any in the 300+ that will not get the shot.
My wife, my children and I are like Noah and his family, eight of us, we will be the new beginning of the family tree.
Hope you are right. It's probably best to mentally prepare for the possibility that the new mutations shed by the vaccinated will kill them and us.
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Also honestly, a lot of people do not need to be vaccinated for anything. Period. I stopped getting my flu shot about 6 years ago. Just forgot to do it one year and never went back.
What happened? Diddly squat.
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I must say I was shocked to see the number who got/will get the ναccιnє is greater than 0. On CATHINFO. It's not like any of us can claim ignorance to the CÖVÌD scam, the nature of the experimental gene therapy masquerading as a ναccιnє, the fact that there's simply no significant danger from CÖVÌD to begin with, etc.
And assuming the 3 people who voted "I got the vax" aren't brain-dead, then they're anxious to "go along to get along" with the crazy modern world. They aren't willing or able to stand up to error or pure insanity. Not a good sign, man, not a good sign.
It just goes to show you, that even on CathInfo not everyone is wise, and frankly not everyone on CathInfo will be saved. I shouldn't be shocked; it's not like CathInfo is a hand-picked club, or an exclusive group of my friends. I allow a wide variety of Trads or those who consider themselves Trads here.
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I was the first to vote no.
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No. Not now, not later, not ever.
No.
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I must say I was shocked to see the number who got/will get the ναccιnє is greater than 0. On CATHINFO. It's not like any of us can claim ignorance to the CÖVÌD scam, the nature of the experimental gene therapy masquerading as a ναccιnє, the fact that there's simply no significant danger from CÖVÌD to begin with, etc.
And assuming the 3 people who voted "I got the vax" aren't brain-dead, then they're anxious to "go along to get along" with the crazy modern world. They aren't willing or able to stand up to error or pure insanity. Not a good sign, man, not a good sign.
It just goes to show you, that even on CathInfo not everyone is wise, and frankly not everyone on CathInfo will be saved. I shouldn't be shocked; it's not like CathInfo is a hand-picked club, or an exclusive group of my friends. I allow a wide variety of Trads or those who consider themselves Trads here.
I think it's just pure stupidity. I've seen plenty in my family, many so-called sharp guys and anti-govt/establishment, yet, went running for the shot soon as it was available. Many because they "don't want to be held up when they want to travel, see a ball game or a show" or something else stupid like that. They will gladly give up there bodily autonomy and possibly immune system because they want to have their good times........
And "good times", well isn't that what life's all about? Yea man, good times, cause you know, we only go around once and ya ain't gettin any younger, dontcha know. So, many of the people close to me have SOLD OUT to the devil in disguise as big/pharma, big/gubbamint, big tech or big jew or whatever you want to call it. Either way, it's pathetic.
These people have no integrity, no intestinal fortitude, no constitution whatsoever. IT'S ALL ABOUT THEM.
They don't want to be inconvenienced or their future held up whatsoever.
And is that not just what the EXCUSE FOR ABORTION IS? Get rid of that kid, YOU HAVE YOUR WHOLE LIFE AHEAD OF YOU!
And now, they're gonna take a shot full of abortal fetal tissue that will probably get rid of them in the long run.
See, you think you can escape the Wrath of an ALMIGHTY GOD?
God is not mocked! You will reap what you sow.
and just like the days of old in Egypt, the ANGEL OF DEATH is coming.
And he's in the form of a "vaccine", a vaccine created from murdered babies, THAT NO ONE CARED ABOUT.
Well, God cared. and now, many people will as well.
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Also honestly, a lot of people do not need to be ναccιnαted for anything. Period. I stopped getting my flu shot about 6 years ago. Just forgot to do it one year and never went back.
What happened? Diddly squat.
I'm in my 50's, they've been pushing that shot on me for years, never took it. Never got the flu.
But you know what? everyone I know who did.....got the damn flu.
Is that not telling you something?
But nope, every year they roll their sleeves up again, like mindless idiots. ::)
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We have a better chance of making the right choice if we begin to pray now for the courage to do so.
If we say to ourselves, maybe I will, maybe I won't -- we are being wishy-washy.
How do you think the early Roman martyrs coped?
Exactly.
Although I suspect a lot of people who, right now, say "No" don't think of themselves as being wishy-washy, but some will still cave when the pressure is on. [Think Meg Roper on A Man For All Seasons.] You are absolutely right about "We have a better chance of making the right choice if we begin to pray now for the courage to do so."
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Hell no...and it isn't a vax even according to their own definition.
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Of course I use the term "Vax" extremely loosely -- to include experimental gene therapy -- a medical treatment which doesn't even SUGGEST that you won't get, die from, or spread the thing it's supposedly "inoculating you" against.
Crazy, I know. But such is the world we live in.
No need to comment in the thread. Just take the poll, completely αnσnymσus.
This entire situation is as sad as it is insane. No one has even tried to prove there is, in fact, a virus. We love to lie to ourselves, so we fall for the lies of others.
If you prefer no comments, don't make them possible? :fryingpan:
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You are correct gladius_veritatis.
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Related to the story that vaxxed patients were shedding new spike proteins from their modified genes:
Suspect that the vaccinated population will show symptoms of health disintegration and high mortality earlier than planned.
This will reveal the genocide conspiracy, despite media propaganda and will lead to panic cover-ups and diversions.
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Related to the story that vaxxed patients were shedding new spike proteins from their modified genes:
Suspect that the ναccιnαted population will show symptoms of health disintegration and high mortality earlier than planned.
This will reveal the genocide cօռspιʀαcʏ, despite media propaganda and will lead to panic cover-ups and diversions.
According to the German vaccine whistleblower who wrote the open letter to the WHO, the vaccinated will shed mutated viruses which both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated will be vulnerable to.
Mike Adams points out that this will be blamed on the unvaccinated.
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Over my dead body, literally, for any vax that involved the murder and abuse of unborn children.
Now, if they eventually came out with a vax that did not have this sinful origin, my no might be a bit less absolute in the scenarios listed by Matto. If I would lose my job unless I got one of these types, if I had no other way to support my family, then I would sustain the health impact. I see that as no different than working as a coal miner where you’re doomed to an early death from black lung or a police officer who could die any day.
And even then I would hold out for the normal vax with attenuated virus rather than mRNA. That would be little different than getting the virus. I believe that India is creating one such vax ... that also doesn’t use baby cells in either testing or production.
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According to the German ναccιnє whistleblower who wrote the open letter to the WHO, the ναccιnαted will shed mutated viruses which both the ναccιnαted and the unναccιnαted will be vulnerable to.
Mike Adams points out that this will be blamed on the unναccιnαted.
This all presupposes that viruses, bacteria, etc, are the cause of illness -- something that is hotly disputed in certain circles.
Mike Adams also fed us continual "intel" on what turned out to be meaningless scenarios regarding Tɾυmρ, ɛƖɛctıon fraud, any meaningful resistance thereto, etc. He may very well be a genuinely awesome dude, and seems to be so, but he also removed his own exchange with Dr. Tom Cowan, likely because Cowan's take is too solid and calls BS on all of it -- a position too "extreme" for Mike.
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The vaccine seems to be shedding spike proteins ( engineered), not a virus, which may have caused the illnesses all along. I think disease in general is a reaction of toxicity and poisoning. I'm pretty certain that that this whole mess was caused by either radiation poisoning or a binary of bio-engineered organisms activated by outside control/EMFor . The fake contagion factor was proliferated by the fake PCR and media hysteria. The vaccine is their crown jewel of depopulation. The dominoes will fall now.
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I will never get a Covid vaccine. Not for any reason. I do not trust the industry that produces the vaccine, nor do I trust the AMA (American Medical Association) to have the best interests of the public in mind. And then there's the aborted fetal tissue that's used in the vaccine. That's another big problem. Some of my liberal family members think that anyone who doesn't get a CV-19 vax is crazy. Oh well. We shouldn't care what liberals think, since some of them are obsessed with being politically correct.
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The ναccιnє seems to be shedding spike proteins ( engineered), not a virus, which may have caused the illnesses all along. I think disease in general is a reaction of toxicity and poisoning. I'm pretty certain that that this whole mess was caused by either radiation poisoning or a binary of bio-engineered organisms activated by outside control/EMFor . The fake contagion factor was proliferated by the fake PCR and media hysteria. The ναccιnє is their crown jewel of depopulation. The dominoes will fall now.
Good points. With so much going on, its easy to forget that Wuhan was the first 5G rollout. And the symptoms are the same.
I stand corrected; it's the spike proteins, not viral shedding.
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I pray for the conversion for those three that voted YES. This is an experimental gene therapy forbidden under the Nuremberg protocols
in which this country is a signatory too.
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According to the German ναccιnє whistleblower who wrote the open letter to the WHO, the ναccιnαted will shed mutated viruses which both the ναccιnαted and the unναccιnαted will be vulnerable to.
Mike Adams points out that this will be blamed on the unναccιnαted.
Thanks for pointing out the “mutated viruses”.
That would mean the “Shedding” story is at least partially a lie.
Michael Yeadon pointed out that the “rapid CÖVÌD mutations” is a cover story for other pathogens the ʝʊdɛօ-masonics will unleash on us, to keep us in lock-down. It
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Thanks for pointing out the “mutated viruses”.
That would mean the “Shedding” story is at least partially a lie.
Michael Yeadon pointed out that the “rapid CÖVÌD mutations” is a cover story for other pathogens the ʝʊdɛօ-masonics will unleash on us, to keep us in lock-down. It
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He says the claim that we will need more injections for "variants" is a complete lie, and the only motive he can see for that lie is to get people injected with something over and over again, and the only reason he can see for that motive is mass murder. He can see no other reason for the government/media to lie to people as an excuse to inject them over and over.
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The truth is that the variants are hardly any different from the original, and that anyone who is immune to the original virus is also immune to the variants.
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He says the claim that we will need more injections for "variants" is a complete lie, and the only motive he can see for that lie is to get people injected with something over and over again, and the only reason he can see for that motive is mass murder. He can see no other reason for the government/media to lie to people as an excuse to inject them over and over.
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The truth is that the variants are hardly any different from the original, and that anyone who is immune to the original virus is also immune to the variants.
Yes, many injections (and tests) to come to achieve
mass murder plus...
transhuman slaves!
In order to create a cyborgs you need to reach payload.
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And now, they're gonna take a shot full of abortal fetal tissue that will probably get rid of them in the long run.
See, you think you can escape the Wrath of an ALMIGHTY GOD?
God is not mocked! You will reap what you sow.
and just like the days of old in Egypt, the ANGEL OF DEATH is coming.
And he's in the form of a "ναccιnє", a ναccιnє created from murdered babies, THAT NO ONE CARED ABOUT.
Well, God cared. and now, many people will as well.
I really hope that what is happening is that they have become so arrogant, godless and full of themselves that they really believe that these poisons will "protect them" and in their arrogance, God will let them destroy themselves and pay for their crimes in this way.
But something tells me that they already know they are just spreading poison, are not taking the real thing themselves, and truly want to kill as many people as they can but themselves.
There's evidence that this is all intentional and meant to reduce the population, but I really hope they get hoisted by their own petard and off themselves for good.
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Me? Get the "vac"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqXpM35bhj0