And then they could force you to take the vaxx anyway and then still put you in the camps. So I fear we will not have a choice to say "no".

The only way I’ll get it is if I’m given it by irresistible force.  Example, I’m rendered unconscious by physical force and injected.  No fault of my own.  Whatever the consequences, it’s not on my conscience.  

Earlier, I wasn't able to address Matto's last point, above, though I wanted to.  I think Seraphina's excellent post here does a good job of it.  
[And perhaps Sean's & Matthew's, but in a different way.    ]

                                     VACCINE

Don't get the ναccιnє. It is the mark of the Beast. Do all you can to resist.

You can use the Nuremberg Code (1947).  If you are forced to have this vaccine, all involved become war criminals. Matter of
a fact this is not a vaccine because it has not gone through the rigid tests that takes 5-10 years. Already people have died
and are very ill after taking this poison. It is many more than CDC cares to admit. Many casualties  of this vaccine is not
even reported. 

Would you take the vaxx if you will not be able to buy or sell without it or even leave your house? Will you take the vaxx if when you refuse they will forcibly starve you to death? Will you take the vaxx if otherwise they will send you to camps and take your children away to be raised by sơdơmites? Will you take the vaxx if they have a gun to your head and force you to take it or otherwise will kill you, or would you shoot the police only for more police to arrive and kill you and your family? And then they could force you to take the vaxx anyway and then still put you in the camps. So I fear we will not have a choice to say "no".

Yes we DO have a choice.
My DH and I have discussed all these possibilities and have decided to refuse. We refuse to participate in "benefiting" from a product made from the hysterectomies of aborted babies (in order to remove the baby's body intact) and within 5 minutes of birth have their kidneys cut out of their bodies to create demonic HEK cell lines.
When I think about standing in judgement before Almighty God, I will stand as a repentant sinner who made the right decision on this issue.

The connexion to abortion is in a way beside the point for me. The jab does an inferior job to the immune system and can be dramatically harmful for some. It is also of a piece with the deeply sinister lσcкdσωn regime, which in Ireland has seen a ban on Mass and normal  social activities.

The jab has many problems, as you point out.
But its potential damage to my body doesn't strengthen my resolve to refuse.


Not wanting to offend God by "benefiting" from the murder of an innocent baby is what strengthens my resolve.

Also honestly, a lot of people do not need to be vaccinated for anything. Period. I stopped getting my flu shot about 6 years ago. Just forgot to do it one year and never went back.

What happened? Diddly squat.

I was the first to vote no. 

I must say I was shocked to see the number who got/will get the ναccιnє is greater than 0. On CATHINFO. It's not like any of us can claim ignorance to the CÖVÌD scam, the nature of the experimental gene therapy masquerading as a ναccιnє, the fact that there's simply no significant danger from CÖVÌD to begin with, etc.

And assuming the 3 people who voted "I got the vax" aren't brain-dead, then they're anxious to "go along to get along" with the crazy modern world. They aren't willing or able to stand up to error or pure insanity. Not a good sign, man, not a good sign.

It just goes to show you, that even on CathInfo not everyone is wise, and frankly not everyone on CathInfo will be saved. I shouldn't be shocked; it's not like CathInfo is a hand-picked club, or an exclusive group of my friends. I allow a wide variety of Trads or those who consider themselves Trads here.

I think it's just pure stupidity. I've seen plenty in my family, many so-called sharp guys and anti-govt/establishment, yet, went running for the shot soon as it was available. Many because they "don't want to be held up when they want to travel, see a ball game or a show" or something else stupid like that. They will gladly give up there bodily autonomy and possibly immune system because they want to have their good times........

And "good times", well isn't that what life's all about? Yea man, good times, cause you know, we only go around once and ya ain't gettin any younger, dontcha know. So, many of the people close to me have SOLD OUT to the devil in disguise as big/pharma, big/gubbamint, big tech or big Jєω  or whatever you want to call it. Either way, it's pathetic.

 
These people have no integrity, no intestinal fortitude, no constitution whatsoever. IT'S ALL ABOUT THEM.

They don't want to be inconvenienced or their future held up whatsoever.

And is that not just what the EXCUSE FOR ABORTION IS? Get rid of that kid, YOU HAVE YOUR WHOLE LIFE AHEAD OF YOU!

And now, they're gonna take a shot full of abortal fetal tissue that will probably get rid of them in the long run.

See, you think you can escape the Wrath of an ALMIGHTY GOD?

God is not mocked! You will reap what you sow.

and just like the days of old in Egypt, the ANGEL OF DEATH is coming. 

And he's in the form of a "vaccine", a vaccine created from murdered babies, THAT NO ONE CARED ABOUT.

Well, God cared. and now, many people will as well.