Author Topic: Good Health on a strict budget (Read 11513 times)

Marlelar · « **Reply #45 on:** March 16, 2014, 04:25:20 PM »

Quote from: ggreg

Quote from: Marlelar
Good health on a strict budget = eating food as close to the way God made it as possible. The more mankind fiddles with food the less nutritious and the more expensive it becomes.
Marsha

It is not expensive nor compared to the last 100 years is it becoming more expensive.

http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/2010/07/03/as-share-of-income-americans-have-the-cheapest-food-in-history-and-cheapest-food-on-the-planet/

The USDA recently updated its data on “Food expenditures as a share of disposable personal income,” and reported that in 2009, Americans spent 9.47% of their disposable income on food (5.55% on food at home and 3.93% on food away from home). The share of income spent on food last year was just slightly higher than the 9.42% in 2008, which is the all-time record low (see top chart above).

As just one example of many that explain why Americans have the cheapest foods in history (as a share of income), the bottom chart above shows the inflation-adjusted wholesale price of milk back to 1890. The current wholesale price of milk, about $15 per hundred weight (cwt), is about half the price of 25 years ago, and about one-third the price of 50 years ago.

Well I don't know about wholesale milk prices for the last hundred years but that was not the point I was trying to make.

My point is that when we can, package, bag, or box food it is more expensive than the same meal made at home. For example, I can buy a box of Stove Top stuffing for $1.69 at the store, or I can save my bread ends, add 2 tb of butter (.42) and .25 worth of herbs and make the same thing at home (w/o the preservatives, colors, etc.) for only 67 cents. That is less than half the cost of the "convenience" food which makes the convenience food more expensive than homemade, which was my original point. The more we fiddle with food the more expensive it becomes, so to eat a healthy diet on a budget it is necessary to eat food as close to the form it was made.

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holysoulsacademy · « **Reply #46 on:** March 16, 2014, 05:18:59 PM »

+AMDG+
SECOND SUNDAY IN LENT 2014 A.D.

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Check out a Latin American market often in a bad neighborhoods for good selections on tropical fruit and roots.

I wonder about the claims of so many different types of illness cured from food. From 15 -22 I tried all sorts of different diets, including some fasting type of diets for female problems and nothing helped or made a bit of difference just less money I had! Coke is the only thing that helps with nausea but none of the diets relieved any symptoms.
I've also tried grape fruit extract, colloidal silver, and garlic for infections and they did not help, only antibiotics did. It was foolish of me to use those instead running to the ER. My teeth are horrible despite taking cod liver oil and drinking bone broths frequently.
Apart from drinking Coke for nausea, for years now I've eaten very little HFCS, no white flour at all, many times walking everywhere our of necessity, and I've been over 150 lbs overweight for years. Healthy food and exercise doesn't cure the underlying illness causing me to be fat and staying away from excess or bad food and regular activity doesn't cause me to lose weight.

First Pray to:
Sedes Sapientiae (Our Lady Seat of Wisdom) ~ for Wisdom
Sts. Cosmas & Damian ~ patron saint of doctors
St. Appolonia ~ patron saint of dentists

Female problems = we managed to resolve by heating your core and cupping. Take a heating pad and heat your core/center with it as long as you can as often as you can. Something we picked up from Trad Chinese medicine (TCM). My daughter who has had problems for years with this received immediate relief. It took me 2 weeks. Less bloating, cramps, and headaches. TCM has a lot to do with flow, energy flow in the body, sounds outrageous but it works.

For nausea = bitters always worked, and you can find many ways to get this. An easy way I do it is bittermelon, juicing. Drink about the size of a shot glass. Its very bitter but helps a lot. I would think dandelion greens would work and may be more accessible.

For infections = exactly what kind are you talking about Tiffany? Not all infections respond the same way. Different infections need different approaches.

For teeth = I have had great success with tea tree oil and castile soap. We haven't needed a dentist since we switched off toothpaste into natural prods. Also, as an update to the oil pulling - it is great! Has helped with my arthritis, and my daughters acne. Just recently bought a whole box of coconut oil to keep up the oil pulling!

As to White flour and HFCS - keep staying away from it.

Weight gain and retention can be attributed to several things. Inflammation, retention of (things we are supposed to dispel), and poor metabolism. I have managed to get healthy not just from eating healthy, but from also getting rid of a lot of stuff in me that was causing me to be unhealthy. This was achieved through cupping, TCM, teas, and heating. My metabolism has increased, I practically have no inflammation, high blood pressure - gone, constant fatigue and lethargy - gone. All without taking conventional pharmaceuticals.

You can PM me Tiffany - hang in there, there is a solution, and it's all in your body too.

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #47 on:** March 17, 2014, 09:09:14 AM »

Quote from: ggreg

If supermarket food was unhealthy, at all, the marginal difference would show up on the track and in the swimming pool and the winners of the medals would all be found to be eating home-grown organic produce.

I think there's much more that goes into being an Olympic athlete than just diet. Do you have any stats on the long-term health of these athletes? It's one thing to be an Olympic athlete, and another to have good health over the course of one's lifetime.

He wasn't an 'Olympic Athlete', but Tony Galento's diet is said to have consisted mostly of beer and pasta.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #48 on:** March 26, 2014, 04:50:15 PM »

My family member mailed me the recipe for

Farro and Green Olive Salad with Walnuts and Raisins

Ingredients

1 1/4 cups farro (1/2 pound)

fine sea salt

1 cup walnuts (3 1/2 ounces)

2 1/2 cups pitted green olives, prefeably Castelvetrano, chopped (11 ounces)

4 scallions, white and light green parts only, finely chopped

1/3 cup snipped chives

2 tablespoons golden raisins

1/2 teaspoon crushed red pepper

1/4 cup extra-virgin olive oli

3 tablespoons fresh lemon juice

1 tablespoon honey

shaved Pecorio cheese, for serving

METHOD

1. Preheat the oven to 375 degrees. In a medium saucepan, combine the farro with 4 cups of water and 1/2 teaspoon of salt. Bring to a simmer, partially covered, until the farro is tender, about 20 minutes. Drain the farro and spread on a baking sheet to cool.

2. Meanwhile, place the walnuts in a pie plate and toast for 5 to 7 minutes, until lightly golden and fragrant. Let cool, then coarsely chop.

3. In a large bowl, combine the farrow, walnuts, olives, scallions chives, raisins, crushed red pepper, olive oil, lemon juice and honey and season with salt. Toss well. Transfer the salad to a platter, garnish with the cheese and serve.

:chef: I believe that doubling the recipe is wise, because it is so yum, and it does not spoil easily, and it's a life-saver if one is really tired from fasting, and it is economical.

stgobnait · « **Reply #49 on:** March 26, 2014, 05:04:44 PM »

can you explain just what oil pulling is please?

MaterDominici · « **Reply #50 on:** March 26, 2014, 06:28:09 PM »

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can you explain just what oil pulling is please?

I've wondered about the specifics as well, but haven't gotten around to simply googling it. Perhaps some kind soul will give us an Oil Pulling 101 in the oil pulling thread.

Marlelar · « **Reply #51 on:** March 26, 2014, 07:03:09 PM »

One perspective:
on oil pulling

Marsha

ggreg · « **Reply #52 on:** March 26, 2014, 07:23:47 PM »

Quote from: MariaCatherine

Quote from: ggreg
If supermarket food was unhealthy, at all, the marginal difference would show up on the track and in the swimming pool and the winners of the medals would all be found to be eating home-grown organic produce.

I think there's much more that goes into being an Olympic athlete than just diet.
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There is, but winning olympic medals or even qualifying for the Olympics is decided by the slimmest of margins. So anything that makes any difference at all is noticed and seized upon.

Talent, aerobic and anaerobic fitness and quality sleep are the other factors but diet is a huge part of being an athlete.

No Olympic athlete just eats what they want, if they did they would not win. Mo Farah the double Olympics 5000 and 10000 champion loves hamburgers but he has not eaten any since 2012 after he did the double.

So if supermarket food lacked nutrition or was unhealthy the trainers of Olympic athletes would soon notice that the people eating non supermarket sources of food were performing marginally better on the track, lost less days to ill health and recovered from their heavy training sessions faster than others.

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #53 on:** March 28, 2014, 07:02:09 PM »

I'd be surprised if athletes in general were more fertile than the rest of us, and lived longer. Surely fertility and longevity are better indicators of good health than just short term athletic skill.

fidelismaris · « **Reply #54 on:** June 24, 2014, 04:50:17 AM »

Threads like these confuse me greatly. I do hope there's some backstory I'm missing. Is the argument here really that rather than make nutritious meals for my family, I should go find a soul crushing job in an office simply because they are available? So I can spend more money on processed foods? My husband has a fine job, and we get by just fine without me working outside of the home. I shan't apologize for nourishing my family-- it is part of my duty as wife and homemaker. But since there are no double blind studies, I'll be sure to buy cheap junk and see if anyone is in need of a corporate drone... My husband will be confused and upset, but my obligations are to the economy, not the family. :rolleyes:

fidelismaris · « **Reply #55 on:** June 24, 2014, 04:51:51 AM »

I apologize for my lateness, I was perusing posts and was so excited to find a thread about nutritious foods.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #56 on:** June 24, 2014, 11:40:33 AM »

Quote from: fidelismaris

Threads like these confuse me greatly. I do hope there's some backstory I'm missing. Is the argument here really that rather than make nutritious meals for my family, I should go find a soul crushing job in an office simply because they are available? So I can spend more money on processed foods? My husband has a fine job, and we get by just fine without me working outside of the home. I shan't apologize for nourishing my family-- it is part of my duty as wife and homemaker. But since there are no double blind studies, I'll be sure to buy cheap junk and see if anyone is in need of a corporate drone... My husband will be confused and upset, but my obligations are to the economy, not the family. :rolleyes:

I get your point.

There was no backstory to starting this thread. Since I very successfully recovered from chronic illness (and pain) by merely changing my diet, getting a Berkey water filter, and adding some key supplements, our family is always brainstorming frugal ways to eat with the best nutrition in mind. So I just shared some information, and some other good people here provided some invaluable tips as well.
I'm not sure why it turned into criticism. There are a heck of a lot of people who have ailing health and sufering from job loss / diminished wages who can benefit from this information.

Our garden is helping the budget quite a bit. We stopped at the market the other day and noticed in season produce is average 30-40% higher. We live in the middle of a fertile ag area with usually reasonable prices.
I am ruthless about what I eat and no one in our house minds a little extra time to prepare fresh food, It tastes much better too, esp heirloom. Prudence is a virtue! and I need all the attempts at holiness I can get.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #57 on:** June 24, 2014, 12:42:57 PM »

I'm not trying to argue with anyone, and I pray the thread can continue to be beneficial via the subject title, for those interested, and not a vehicle for negative comments or arguments. Really it's just about suggestions for eating healthy on a restricted budget, that's all.

That's an interesting thought about athletes. A quick perusal of sample olympic athlete diets via net search shows very little to no processed foods eaten, and they supplement well. Whether they buy their fresh foods at a supermarket, I don't know, regardless it doesn't look like they eat frankenfood when training.
Personally I much prefer the richer taste of heirloom produce, grass fed meat, pastured eggs, and raw milk is an almost perfect food. But some of these items, like supermarket food, is getting pretty expensive, so it's prudent to brainstorm together.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #58 on:** June 24, 2014, 07:55:55 PM »

Healthy diet on strict budget. Learn by going on St Ignatius retreat
Read the book Christian Warfare.