Author Topic: Good Health on a strict budget (Read 11502 times)

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2014, 11:18:40 AM »

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Why live your live in North America as though you are stuck in Somalia?

Our family is blessed in that we've not suffered as much as so many others in this depression, but every trad Catholic parish we've visited in various cities of N and S America has quite a lot of economically challenged families, especially in the US. It's been mentioned on this forum from time to time.

Additionally, whether or not you have money to burn, Catholics are obligated to use prudence. Why shop for contaminated processed food in a supermarket - enriching the government/corporate oligarchy that are anti Catholic, and poisoning your body - when there is superior food available? Locally grown or garden grown.
Good food = less disease. Seems a no brainer for an intelligent man.

The point of this thread was to have an aggregate of ideas for people interested in nutrition on a budget. That's all.
Please don't hijack it into a protestant work ethic "it's your own fault that you're poor" condemnation. That might make for interesting discussion in another topic?

crossbro · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2014, 11:28:20 AM »

I don't think you can justify saying the food is superior just because it came from your backyard or that expense of an item equals prudence.

If this your hobby, fine. But please do not delegate it as a Christian obligation.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2014, 11:38:05 AM »

Crossbro, I didn't interpret your ideas as a hijack. You provided your opinion of inexpensive foods.

I have a family member who developed serious health issues about 14 years ago. It was either change the diet or suffer, with an inevitable operation within a year or two. So the family all changed to basic foods i.e., homemade everything, nothing processed. Grass fed meat. Pasteured eggs. Raw milk when possible. Fruits / veg from local farmers markets, you get the point. It was a pragmatic decision at the time.

Since then, our health flourished. No exaggeration at all. I still love a good pizza on occasion, and I used to love ramen noodles, and other convenience foods. But my body adjusted to "pure" food and now I can't tolerate processed. Overall we have so much energy and we've not been sick a day in years. I thank God for His help those many years ago.

There is a direct connection between the food we eat and the diseases we contract.

crossbro · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2014, 11:54:07 AM »

I understand that due to individual intolerances or allergies or diabetes that not everyone can eat the same.

There can be a balance for 80% of the population when it comes to diet. I personally weigh myself every morning and adjust my habits to avoid becoming obese. During the week I use work to avoid calories and work out. On the weekends I do very much what I want in regards to eating with limits of course.

So I am not saying that people should just not care and pig out, far from it. I am just saying that for most people soaking beans and eating grass is going to be a quality of life issue.

I wish you the best of luck though, my prayers are with you and your family for good health.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2014, 11:55:46 AM »

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I don't think you can justify saying the food is superior just because it came from your backyard or that expense of an item equals prudence.

If this your hobby, fine. But please do not delegate it as a Christian obligation.

We are obligated to be virtuous, and prudence is a cardinal virtue. We must call upon His wisdom in all our daily decisions, not make choices that are convenient. For example, what is best for our soul? The sacraments, prayer, devotions, etc. What is best for our body, temple of the Holy Ghost? Good food to keep our body as healthy as possible, with strength to carry out our daily duties.

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The virtue of prudence is the virtue of identifying what is truly good for us

It's illogical to equate processed gmo food - which is the majority of supermarket food now - with fresh and/or unprocessed food.

It's a thread on AFFORDABLE NUTRITIOUS FOOD as stated in the title. That's all.

ggreg · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2014, 11:59:26 AM »

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Crossbro, I didn't interpret your ideas as a hijack. You provided your opinion of inexpensive foods.

I have a family member who developed serious health issues about 14 years ago. It was either change the diet or suffer, with an inevitable operation within a year or two. So the family all changed to basic foods i.e., homemade everything, nothing processed. Grass fed meat. Pasteured eggs. Raw milk when possible. Fruits / veg from local farmers markets, you get the point. It was a pragmatic decision at the time.

Since then, our health flourished. No exaggeration at all. I still love a good pizza on occasion, and I used to love ramen noodles, and other convenience foods. But my body adjusted to "pure" food and now I can't tolerate processed. Overall we have so much energy and we've not been sick a day in years. I thank God for His help those many years ago.

There is a direct connection between the food we eat and the diseases we contract.

That is hardly a double blind clinical trial is it?

You perceive that your health has flourished is what you mean. There is no objective way of showing that it has. I know a UK Trad who has been taking organic supplements and drinking expensive Venezuelan beaver's milk for years and he is very unhealthy. It proves nothing.

I can tolerate processed foods, which I eat on occasion, and tolerate them just fine and dandy, so who is healthier? Me with my hyper-resistant almost inert gut flora that can down a Chicken Vindaloo or you who can't eat an occasional Kentucky Fried Chicken without going to the loo?

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #21 on:** March 12, 2014, 12:02:08 PM »

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I wish you the best of luck though, my prayers are with you and your family for good health.

that's the nicest thing I've heard in weeks. How kind. I'll remember you in our prayers today, I promise.

(ps. I hate beans and grass! give me a good rare steak, some homemade bread and glass of red wine)

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #22 on:** March 12, 2014, 12:04:17 PM »

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Crossbro, I didn't interpret your ideas as a hijack. You provided your opinion of inexpensive foods.

I have a family member who developed serious health issues about 14 years ago. It was either change the diet or suffer, with an inevitable operation within a year or two. So the family all changed to basic foods i.e., homemade everything, nothing processed. Grass fed meat. Pasteured eggs. Raw milk when possible. Fruits / veg from local farmers markets, you get the point. It was a pragmatic decision at the time.

Since then, our health flourished. No exaggeration at all. I still love a good pizza on occasion, and I used to love ramen noodles, and other convenience foods. But my body adjusted to "pure" food and now I can't tolerate processed. Overall we have so much energy and we've not been sick a day in years. I thank God for His help those many years ago.

There is a direct connection between the food we eat and the diseases we contract.

That is hardly a double blind clinical trial is it?

You perceive that your health has flourished is what you mean. There is no objective way of showing that it has. I know a UK Trad who has been taking organic supplements and drinking expensive Venezuelan beaver's milk for years and he is very unhealthy. It proves nothing.

I can tolerate processed foods, which I eat on occasion, and tolerate them just fine and dandy, so who is healthier? Me with my hyper-resistant almost inert gut flora that can down a Chicken Vindaloo or you who can't eat an occasional Kentucky Fried Chicken without going to the loo?

Please don't hijack the thread.

Frances · « **Reply #23 on:** March 12, 2014, 12:18:03 PM »

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......drinking expensive Venezuelan beaver's milk for years and he is very unhealthy.

:dancing-banana: :barf:Maybe he should switch to North American beaver's milk? There are lots of these critters over here!

ggreg · « **Reply #24 on:** March 12, 2014, 12:21:29 PM »

He would but it is full of dihydrogen monoxide which is dangerous to your health and affects ones ability to detect satire.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #25 on:** March 12, 2014, 01:05:02 PM »

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Dried beans lentils, pulses are nutritious, nourishing and delicious, cheaper than meat and can be bought in bulk and stored for long periods.

Lentils, yum.
I recently discovered farro, which I now love, as nourishing and delicious.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #26 on:** March 12, 2014, 03:56:37 PM »

I stated earlier that I hate beans, but I have to qualify - lentils are delicious. And I just discovered red lentils. Combined with some curry sauce and leftover lamb, one of my new favorite meals.

Elizabeth, can you recommend a good recipe for farro?

jen51 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 12, 2014, 06:57:33 PM »

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Given that any white person with half a brain can sell their labour for 10-20 dollars per hour of hard work, book keeping for example, and that food is relatively cheap I don't see why most people on this forum who live in the first world would not simply earn enough extra cash to buy decent food.

Sure, it takes a bit of planning and effort to find the work and keep clients happy but less effort than a garden or collecting and crushing berries. Unless you are socially retarded why not work.

I pay my bookkeeper 100 dollars for 4 hours of staring at a computer screen any typing in my company's receipts just because I hate doing that. She has no qualifications in accounting, she is self taught.

Why wouldn't you do something like rather than trying to make 100 dollars worth of nutritious food?

In my experience there is an absolute dearth of people who are ready and willing to go into an office and grind out some hard research to help sales and marketing efforts. Lots of talking heads and people who attend meetings but nobody ready to knuckle down and make prospective telephone calls, or shovel other sh!t that needs shovelling in the modern economy.

Just about every large technology firm I work with has a CRM system that is more neglected than Putin's wife. A really simple money making business is to offer to clean those databases up and find new data for sales people to call. CEOs of small businesses would pay you 300 per day as a contractor for doing that periodically.

Give them a day of work for free as a trial and then produce a report showing what you found in terms of old and incorrect data and the new decision-makers who replaced them.

That is just one idea. There are thousands of things that businesses need. Why live your live in North America as though you are stuck in Somalia?

Ggreg, believe it or not, not everyone wants to live like you. I know I certainly don't. My "half a brain" tells me I'd rather spend 20 hours weeding a garden and picking berries than spend 2 hours filing you or any other corporate mans receipts. Wage work is like pulling teeth to me. If money is a little tighter because I wish to avoid being a wage slave, so be it. You won't hear me complaining. It's all a matter of preference. I enjoy my way of life, and I don't particularly care for your ways of earning extra cash. I'd much prefer to grow my own food than buy it, and I don't care if it's harder work. I find it infinitely more appealing than "going to work." I enjoy working with my hands and living off of what I grow. I find it very rewarding and fulfilling. If you don't find it appealing, fine, to each their own. A little less condescension, please.

And Somalia? Lol. A little overboard I think. This first world country began on many folks growing their food and picking berries. Many people still do. It's not such an outdated and decrepit idea as you make it out to be.

How about you let us be, happily discussing healthy food on a tight budget. Please?

Elizabeth · « **Reply #28 on:** March 12, 2014, 07:08:41 PM »

As it turns out, I am going to visit the person who has the deluxe recipe tomorrow, if all goes well! It had lemon and olives and some other ingredients. It was so delicious and satisfying!!

For now I've been having it with butter and Trader Joe's soy sauce. The thing is, this stuff really makes me feel great after eating it--and it's not fattening like wheat. Quinoa is supposed to have super powers but it does nothing.
So, I'll be delighted to share the recipe asap.

I do red lentils in the essence left over from a roasted chicken with carrots and tons of black pepper and salt. :ready-to-eat:

Can you tell I'm really hungry right now?

Some of my family hate beans, also. The farro is not beanish; nobody has complained. I introduced it in stir-fry rice.

MariaCatherine · « **Reply #29 on:** March 12, 2014, 08:32:40 PM »

No one's mentioned yogurt or kefir. Best remedy I know for 'inert gut flora'.