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Offline Christopher67

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Fr Kramer is NOT a sede
« on: December 01, 2013, 12:52:05 AM »
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  • Despite what some MIGHT think the good Father is saying,  he is expressing what a lot of us here suspected. Francis is an anti-pope. BVXI is the pope.

    Offline TheKnightVigilant

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    Fr Kramer is NOT a sede
    « Reply #1 on: December 01, 2013, 01:01:14 AM »
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    Fr Kramer is NOT a sede
    « Reply #2 on: December 01, 2013, 01:13:46 AM »
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  • He is saying that BVXI is pope.....

    Offline Christopher67

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    Fr Kramer is NOT a sede
    « Reply #3 on: December 01, 2013, 01:16:17 AM »
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  • Paul Kramer
    "Pope" Francis in Evangelii Gaudium n. 247: "We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked". This text is an explicit profession of heresy, directly opposed to the solemn dogmatic definition of Pope Eugenius III and the Ecumenical Council of Florence, and the doctrine taught by the supreme magisterium of Pope Benedict XIV in Ex Quo Primum, set forth repeatedly and explicitly citing the definition of Florence, to wit, that the Mosaic covenant has been "revoked" and "abrogated". I have been saying for years that when a "pope" will officially teach explicit and clear heresy flatly contradicting the infallibly defined dogma of the Catholic faith, then you will know that he is the false pope prophecied in many Church approved prophecies and Marian apparitions. St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Alohonsus Liguori, St. Antoninus and Pope Innocent III all teach that when the pope demonstrates himself to be a manifest heretic, i.e. a plainly manifested public heretic, he ceases to be pope (or, if already was a public heretic he was invalidly elected) because he is not a Catholic -- not a member of the Catholic Church. Bellarmine explains that the Roman Pontiff is the visible head of the Church, and the head is a member. One who is not a member cannot be the head, and therefore the election to the supreme pontificate of a public heretic is canonically null & void. The heresy of Bergoglio in no. 247 is such a clear cut case of manifest, public heresy, expressed in stark, unequivocal terms, that it can be said without doubt that if this proposition of no. 247 is not manifestly heretical, then nothing else can be said to be so. It is morally impossible that one who manifestly displays such clearly expressed contempt for a defined dogma of faith by plainly denying it, can be believed to validly hold the office of Roman Pontiff. St. Francis of Assisi foretold of the uncanonically elected pope who would not be "a true pastor but a destroyer". Bergoglio plainly fits the description.

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    « Reply #4 on: December 01, 2013, 02:01:12 AM »
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  • Quote from: Christopher67
    He is saying that BVXI is pope.....


    I'm not sure how "The conclusion is inescapable. Sede Vacante." means "Benedict occupies the seat".


    Offline Christopher67

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    « Reply #5 on: December 01, 2013, 02:08:29 AM »
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  • ask him

    Offline poche

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    « Reply #6 on: December 01, 2013, 04:42:10 AM »
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  • Maybe you weren't paying attention. The cardinals went into the Sistine Chapel. A few days later white smoke came out of the chimney. A cardinal came out and said, "Habemus Papam..." Out came the old Cardinal Bergoglio and he said that he wants to be called Francis. Even poeple who dont agree with the Catholic church (Prtoestants, Moslems, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc...) regognize that Francis is the Pope.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 01, 2013, 08:52:24 AM »
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  • Is there some reason this thread is in the "health and nutrition" forum?

    Does Fr Kramer accept novus ordo bishops / cardinals as his legit superiors? - because they say the same things as francis, even worse.


    Offline LoverOfTradition

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    « Reply #8 on: December 01, 2013, 09:10:46 AM »
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  • Wait a minute. If Benedict is the Pope, then he was forced out against his own will? He lied to us?

    This just gets so much more confusing. I hope Fr. Kramer releases a video or something explaining this.

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    « Reply #9 on: December 01, 2013, 09:49:18 AM »
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  • Quote from: LoverOfTradition
    Wait a minute. If Benedict is the Pope, then he was forced out against his own will? He lied to us?

    This just gets so much more confusing. I hope Fr. Kramer releases a video or something explaining this.


    One never knows what murky dark things take place in the political games of the Vatican. Benedict did say we should pray for him that "I wont leave for fear of the wolves". Who were the wolves he spoke of? And if he was threatened why not say so while on the balcony in front of a million Catholics?

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    « Reply #10 on: December 01, 2013, 10:20:43 AM »
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    Wait a minute. If Benedict is the Pope, then he was forced out against his own will? He lied to us?

    This just gets so much more confusing. I hope Fr. Kramer releases a video or something explaining this.


    One never knows what murky dark things take place in the political games of the Vatican. Benedict did say we should pray for him that "I wont leave for fear of the wolves". Who were the wolves he spoke of? And if he was threatened why not say so while on the balcony in front of a million Catholics?


    I keep thinking back to that statement: "Pray for me that I might flee for fear of the wolves." That's the first thing I thought of when he abdicated. He did flee. There's no way he's so physically sick that he couldn't be Pope anymore. We've seen him out publicly several times and he doesn't look like he's about to die. Something just isn't right. I'm not one to base everything on Prophecy, but I think back to the "two Pope" Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich talked about. Or Pope Pius X vision of the Pope, with the same name as him fleeing. (I thought that was Cardinal Siri lol. Giuseppe Siri-Giuseppe Sarto- Joseph Ratzinger). I don't know. One day, this is going to have to be sorted out. Something isn't right. What if Benedict is still the true Pope? What do we do now?

    Off the top of my head, the wolves are the Freemasons.

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     And if he was threatened why not say so while on the balcony in front of a million Catholics?
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    For the same reason the Third Secret hasn't been relased and the Consecration not done (whatever that is...)?


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    « Reply #11 on: December 01, 2013, 10:25:45 AM »
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  • [/quote]Wait a minute. If Benedict is the Pope, then he was forced out against his own will? He lied to us?

    This just gets so much more confusing. I hope Fr. Kramer releases a video or something explaining this.[/quote]

    One never knows what murky dark things take place in the political games of the Vatican. Benedict did say we should pray for him that "I wont leave for fear of the wolves". Who were the wolves he spoke of? And if he was threatened why not say so while on the balcony in front of a million Catholics?[/quote]


    I keep thinking back to that statement: "Pray for me that I might flee for fear of the wolves." That's the first thing I thought of when he abdicated. He did flee. There's no way he's so physically sick that he couldn't be Pope anymore. We've seen him out publicly several times and he doesn't look like he's about to die. Something just isn't right. I'm not one to base everything on Prophecy, but I think back to the "two Pope" Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich talked about. Or Pope Pius X vision of the Pope, with the same name as him fleeing. (I thought that was Cardinal Siri lol. Giuseppe Siri-Giuseppe Sarto- Joseph Ratzinger). I don't know. One day, this is going to have to be sorted out. Something isn't right. What if Benedict is still the true Pope? What do we do now?

    Off the top of my head, the wolves are the Freemasons.

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     And if he was threatened why not say so while on the balcony in front of a million Catholics?
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    For the same reason the Third Secret hasn't been relased and the Consecration not done (whatever that is...)?[/quote]


    EDIT: I can't seem to get the quotes right. Sorry about that.

    Offline soulguard

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    « Reply #12 on: December 01, 2013, 11:50:39 AM »
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  • There could be some dark secret that the liberals in the church are using to blackmail the conciliar popes, even into resigning.

    I wonder what it is.

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    « Reply #13 on: December 01, 2013, 04:52:33 PM »
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  • Why is this thread in the health and nutrition forum?  
    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic

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    « Reply #14 on: December 01, 2013, 05:49:56 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ambrose
    Why is this thread in the health and nutrition forum?  


    Because ill advised and hokey positions like "sedebenediceplenism" are a danger to one's health?
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