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Re: For better health
« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2025, 05:02:55 PM »
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  • George Foreman credits carbohydrates (and God) for slimming down and his heavyweight championship victory.


    Then you should eat them

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #61 on: February 17, 2025, 05:04:22 PM »
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  • There is no such thing as a carb being a necessary nutrient, they simply arent


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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #62 on: February 17, 2025, 05:08:19 PM »
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  • :laugh1: ... carbs, maybe, but nothing but refined sugar?  I doubt you'll find 3 people in the world who believe it's good for you and that you don't also need healthy fats, especially for your brain function.
    You are correct Lad, our brain is 80% cholesterol and trying to lower that down with statins is a bad idea that should be stopped… but too much $$$ in it for that to happen

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #63 on: February 18, 2025, 03:03:28 PM »
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  • Sugar (insulin resistance) and maybe refined carbs made my eczema and GI problems worse.

    You're wrong. Dietary fats cause insulin resistance.
    Sugar increases insulin sensitivity (hence, you need less insulin for it to do its job).
    Watch the 3 minute video of doctors discussing it. I posted it earlier in this thread. Here it is, again.



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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #64 on: February 18, 2025, 03:09:47 PM »
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  • Couldn't it be that different diets work for different people?
    No. Biochemical reactions and physiological processes in each human are the same.

    What you asked is like asking "would different types of wood that are on fire burn more, if water was thrown on it, while fire would put out on other types of wood as water is thrown on it?
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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #65 on: February 18, 2025, 03:18:02 PM »
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  • :laugh1: ... carbs, maybe, but nothing but refined sugar?  I doubt you'll find 3 people in the world who believe it's good for you and that you don't also need healthy fats, especially for your brain function.
    Try coming back with an argument that's not a strawman on this issue. You've repeatedly committed strawman fallacies. 
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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #66 on: February 18, 2025, 03:22:26 PM »
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    There is no such thing as a carb being a necessary nutrient, they simply arent
    Carbs aren't nutriets, just a different type of fuel.  Much like water can be solid, liquid or gas....all glucose comes from carbs, proteins or oils.  Carbs being the quickest way for the body to get fuel.

    There were some recent studies which suggested that carbs are needed for the body to properly assimilate certain vitamins.  There is no exercise guru/top-athelete on the planet who is against carbs.

    I agree with the video where doctors cured type2 with starches and simple sugars.  I've read on that years ago and makes sense.

    The waters get murky when you start to demonize all oils, as that is the same extreme position of demonizing all carbs.  I think omega6/processed oils are the main issue.  They are the ones which block the insulin receptors.  Omega6s are everywhere, and omega3 oils are hard to get.

    The other murky issue is high-fructose corn syrup which is NOT SUGAR and horrible for your pancreas and liver.  If one were to eat a "high carb" diet and not avoid corn syrup, they'd be doing a horrible thing to their body.

    In summary, due to all the processing of our foods, a healthy diet is hard to achieve.  And also, most foods are devoid of nutrients, whether you're talking about fats or carbs.

    Some people seems to operate better on keto vs high-carb.  I've seen plenty of amazing atheletes who are high-carb/ even vegan.  I really don't think there's a one-size answer.

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #67 on: February 18, 2025, 03:28:18 PM »
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  • You are correct Lad, our brain is 80% cholesterol and trying to lower that down with statins is a bad idea that should be stopped… but too much $$$ in it for that to happen
    The brain and every cell in the human body runs on glucose. If you deprive yourself of glucose, you cause a vast array of problems both mentally and physically.

    When a person is in a coma, the hospital feeds him glucose as a staple through the tubes to keep him alive. They don't feed him fats and cholesterol.

    When a type 2 diabetic is about to go into shock and a coma, the paramedics feed him glucose not milk, cheese, pig fat nor a burger to revive him.

    Jersey60, you should cut down on dietary fat and have some sugar. You'll start think think better and understand these simple fundamentals.
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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #68 on: February 18, 2025, 03:31:37 PM »
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  • No. Biochemical reactions and physiological processes in each human are the same.

    What you asked is like asking "would different types of wood that are on fire burn more, if water was thrown on it, while fire would put out on other types of wood as water is thrown on it?
    If it is all biochemical and physiological, then where do food allergies come from?
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #69 on: February 18, 2025, 03:33:17 PM »
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  • The brain and every cell in the human body runs on glucose. If you deprive yourself of glucose, you cause a vast array of problems both mentally and physically.

    When a person is in a coma, the hospital feeds him glucose as a staple through the tubes to keep him alive. They don't feed him fats and cholesterol.

    When a type 2 diabetic is about to go into shock and a coma, the paramedics feed him glucose not milk, cheese, pig fat nor a burger to revive him.

    Jersey60, you should cut down on dietary fat and have some sugar. You'll start think think better and understand these simple fundamentals.
    I was eating plenty of sugar and had aches, blood sugar readings going up...went carnivore and not going back, no more aches and pains and couldn't feel better, no thanks!

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #70 on: February 18, 2025, 03:35:50 PM »
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  • If it is all biochemical and physiological, then where do food allergies come from?
    We're talking about storage of body fat, insulin levels and energy production. Food allergies is a red herring. Different things can cause it but it's not the issue here. 
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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #71 on: February 18, 2025, 03:37:57 PM »
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  • I was eating plenty of sugar and had aches, blood sugar readings going up...went carnivore and not going back, no more aches and pains and couldn't feel better, no thanks!
    You're not telling the truth. You excluded the fact that you were ALSO eating high dietary fats along with the sugar and carbs. No wonder you were obese and diabetic and ached. You're still overweight and type 2 from keto/carnivore.

    The key is to keep dietary fat VERY LOW while increasing the carbs/sugar.
    Dan shall be a serpent in the way, a viper by the path, that bites the horse's heels so his rider falls backward. ~ Genesis 49:17

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #72 on: February 18, 2025, 03:41:52 PM »
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  • The brain and every cell in the human body runs on glucose. If you deprive yourself of glucose, you cause a vast array of problems both mentally and physically.
    Some functions take Ketones.

    When a person is in a coma, the hospital feeds him glucose as a staple through the tubes to keep him alive. They don't feed him fats and cholesterol.
    That is a quick and easy fix.  If other nutrients were fed to the coma victim, then maybe there health would improve faster.

    When a type 2 diabetic is about to go into shock and a coma, the paramedics feed him glucose not milk, cheese, pig fat nor a burger to revive him.
    Because it transports faster.  If a diabetic wants to avoid shock or coma all together then he should eat a better diet than the one you describe.

    Jersey60, you should cut down on dietary fat and have some sugar. You'll start think think better and understand these simple fundamentals.
    Lots of your messages have grammatical and typing issues.  Are you sure you are thinking better?:cowboy:
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #73 on: February 18, 2025, 03:45:23 PM »
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  • You're not telling the truth. You excluded the fact that you were ALSO eating high dietary fats along with the sugar and carbs. No wonder you were obese and diabetic and ached. You're still overweight and type 2 from keto/carnivore.

    The key is to keep dietary fat VERY LOW while increasing the carbs/sugar.
    Mind providing sources for your information? It's all false but...

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #74 on: February 18, 2025, 03:48:23 PM »
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  • We're talking about storage of body fat, insulin levels and energy production. Food allergies is a red herring. Different things can cause it but it's not the issue here.
    I don't think it is that simple.  If it was all people could do the exact same thing and be healthy?

    Have you ever heard of Weston A. Price?
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"