Author Topic: For better health (Read 56015 times)

Persto · « **Reply #50 on:** February 16, 2025, 04:27:13 PM »

Quote from: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on February 16, 2025, 11:41:03 AM

Is that why I'm single digit body fat with an athletic build, energy, fitness and no mental fog, and I don't need caffeine to get me through the day?

Are these panel of doctors wrong, too?

The video is from this channel:

Keto Fatty
@Keto_Fatty_Syndicate
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"I'm on a carnivore and keto diet. I struggle with fat issues, anxiety, irritability and mental depression. I have low energy. I drink a bunch of coffee and I take stimulants to get me through the day. I have trouble sleeping. My cortisol levels are high. I sometimes starve myself down to "normal" weight while I consume a bunch of (disease-causing) diet pills, and I dishonestly credit my carnivore/keto diet for it. I refuse to accept the truth that my health issues are due to my sugar phobia and high consumption of fatty foods and animal products. I refuse to accept sugar greatly reduces cortisol levels. SUGAR IS WHITE DEATH !!"

The channel only has 2 videos: the one posted above and another a cartoon on "Anti-racist Hitler"
More about Dr. McDougall who is in the clip on the video:
wiki:
John A. McDougall (May 17, 1947 – June 22, 2024) was an American physician and author, who died at the age of 77.
In 1992, nutritionist Kurt Butler described McDougall's ideas as "vegetarian extremism" and McDougall as "Americas most influential vegan zealot" who has taken the low-fat vegetarian diet to extremes.
The McDougall diet is very low-fat, high-carbohydrate and vegan. Sodium intake is restricted and animal products, added oils, processed foods (ie: white sugar),alcoholic beverages and caffeinated drinks are not permitted. The McDougall diet is severe restriction of dietary fat with the avoidance of vegetable oils, nuts, seeds and avocados. The diet is 90% starch-based.  It is based on a variety of starches such as rice, potatoes, corn, breads, pasta with fresh or frozen fruits and vegetables.
McDougall acknowledges that sugar can cause immediate changes in the brain's chemistry, similar to those seen after the use of narcotics, producing heightened pleasure. However, he does not advocate for the excessive consumption of refined sugars, which can lead to dependency and adverse health effects.  McDougall recommends consuming sugars in their natural forms found in unprocessed starches, vegetables, and fruits.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-mcdougall-diet/
Dr. Harriet Hall:
Dr. McDougall is a maverick who disagrees with most experts. He recommends a high starch, low fat diet with no dairy or animal foods and other prohibitions. Its severe restrictions make it nutritionally questionable and it has never been properly tested in a controlled study.

I assumed he must have found convincing evidence to support his claims. I read his book  Many claims were made without supporting evidence. Evidence appeared only twice:

In Chapter 3, he says “Scientific support for the material in this chapter” can be found in another of his books, , published in 1984.
Part 3 covers dietary and lifestyle treatment of medical conditions and is followed by a section of references applying to the material in Part 3.

He says that for most of his patients with MS, the progress of MS symptoms has been halted. He cites a study by Dr. Roy Swank, saying he treated more than 3,000 MS patients with a low fat diet; he says Swank’s results are unchallenged by other studies and are unmatched in effectiveness. Swank’s study began in 1949 and his results for 144 patients were published in in 1990. There was no control group. And his results certainly have been challenged, repeatedly. A recent study reported decreased subjective self-reports of fatigue but “no significant improvement on brain MRI, relapse rate or disability”.

“Before you accept a claim, try to find out who disagrees with it and why.” In this case, pretty much all health care providers and nutrition experts disagree, and they have a very good reason: they follow the published evidence. How likely is it that they are all wrong and this one individual is the only one to get it right? Not very. McDougall claims there is “overwhelming evidence” to support his diet. An article on SkepticBlog has fun with his claim that dairy food causes all disease:

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Quote And the science is overwhelming! Well, if this guy says so, it must be true. But I wonder how he has come to this conclusion, since McDougall has not managed to convince any meaningful percentage of the medical community that outrageous claims are anything other than quackery. This total failure constitutes “overwhelming science”?

That article goes on to point out that the preponderance of published research supports exactly the opposite of what McDougall claims. Nutritionist Kurt Butler agrees, saying that while McDougall backs up his claims with published medical studies, his interpretations of those studies are often at odds with the studies’ authors.

WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat · « **Reply #51 on:** February 16, 2025, 04:39:57 PM »

Quote from: Persto on February 16, 2025, 04:27:13 PM

The video is from this channel: [...]

I know, can you believe it? What better approach than to mix truth with humor?

jersey60 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 16, 2025, 06:36:59 PM »

Quote from: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on February 16, 2025, 11:41:03 AM

Is that why I'm single digit body fat with an athletic build, energy, fitness and no mental fog, and I don't need caffeine to get me through the day?

Are these panel of doctors wrong, too?

WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat · « **Reply #53 on:** February 17, 2025, 03:56:56 PM »

George Foreman credits carbohydrates (and God) for slimming down and his heavyweight championship victory.

Gray2023 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 17, 2025, 04:21:30 PM »

Couldn't it be that different diets work for different people?

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