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Offline WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat

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Re: For better health
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2025, 11:33:55 AM »
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  • I have a master's degree in health and wellness, and graduate study in exercise physiology and nutrition, and I have much anecdotal experience.  I can objectively and categorically say that everyone, except the OP, who has commented on diet here in this thread is in great error. One of the few things wrong with the OP is to discourage fruit juice which is ridiculous because the same chart promotes fruits. It's a contradiction. Both fruits and fruit juice are healthy. But overall, the OP is far more correct than everyone else, but still not optimal. 
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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #16 on: February 11, 2025, 05:36:29 PM »
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  • I have a master's degree in health and wellness, and graduate study in exercise physiology and nutrition, and I have much anecdotal experience.  I can objectively and categorically say that everyone, except the OP, who has commented on diet here in this thread is in great error. One of the few things wrong with the OP is to discourage fruit juice which is ridiculous because the same chart promotes fruits. It's a contradiction. Both fruits and fruit juice are healthy. But overall, the OP is far more correct than everyone else, but still not optimal.
    It depends on the fruit juice, the Ingredients are not the same. Eg. 40% tomato puree vs 90% tomato juice. Also added sugars and other stuff.

    But yeah that image in OP is a meme. Extra virgin olive oil is very healthy, seed (vegetable) oils not at all.


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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #17 on: February 11, 2025, 05:39:28 PM »
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  • This diet will get you sick real quick.  I've never met a healthy-looking vegan.  Only go vegan for SHORT (a few days, here and there) bursts, as a detox. 

    Green, leafy veggies should be cooked in olive/coconut oil, to break down the oxalic acids and help the body absorb nutrients.  Green, leafy veggies should only be eaten raw in small quantities (and not everyday)If eaten raw, will build up oxalic acids and this will damage your kidneys.  And you will get thyroid problems.  And/or gout.

    Legumes, nuts are also high in oxylates...these chemicals make it hard for the body to absorb nutrients. 

    (Some veggies are ok to eat raw - i.e. carrots, tomatoes (actually a fruit), cucuмber, etc).  The healthier veggies (dark green) should be steamed/lightly cooked.

    Also, calcium and dairy products bind with oxylates and help the body GET RID OF THEM, because they're dangerous.
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    The best diet is keto and/or paleo.  Grass-fed meats, animal fats (natural butter), whole milk and slightly-cooked veggies.  Rice is ok.  Good breads are ok in moderation.  If you eat a lot of good meats and natural butter, you'll feel full and won't have carb cravings as much.

    Most vitamins from food are FAT SOLUBLE (vitamins A, D, E, K).  If you don't eat good fats, your body won't absorb these vitamins...no matter how many smoothies you drink.  Low fat diets are horrible, because your body will become deficient, due to being unable to absorb the vitamins in needs.

    There are certain vitamins (B vitamins) which can ONLY be gotten from beef/animal products.

    Dr Adkins was right -- a high protein, low carb diet is the way to go.  Eating like our "great grandparents used to eat" (i.e. the diet of a farmer) is the way to go --- eggs, meat, chicken, cooked veggies, milk --- this is the key to heath.

    The main problems of health today
    1) plant fats -- soybean, canola, peanut, etc....all are highly processed.  Cause inflammation in the body.  Simply horrible.  Use natural butter.  Olive oil is good too.
    2) processed sugars -- high fructose corn syrup kills your liver and pancreas. 
    3) pesticides in foods.  Non-local, non-organic.

    The keto/paleo diet solves for all 3 problems above.
    This is gold 

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #18 on: February 11, 2025, 11:16:01 PM »
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  • Right now most meat in USA  is full of vaccines and antibiotics including jab shot. Are deer full of Lyme disease?  I don’t know.  (That disease was created in lab)   Now they created chicken disease.  

    If you look at people from Asian countries countries, they eat mostly organic veggies with small amounts of meat and fish on side. 7 day adventists are healthy too. 













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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #19 on: February 12, 2025, 05:05:20 AM »
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  • Over two pounds of fibrous veggies per day?  Talk about eating like a horse!  🌱🌱 🐴
    Sounds like something my mother would say.  😅🤣
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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #20 on: February 12, 2025, 11:59:26 AM »
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  • If you look at people from Asian countries countries, they eat mostly organic veggies with small amounts of meat and fish on side. 7 day adventists are healthy too.
    Their main staple is white rice and they generally eat low dietary fat and little meat - mainly because they can't afford it - but biochemistry doesn't care about what you can afford or not. It responds best to what is healthiest; and, fortunately, for Asians the most affordable diet (white rice) is also the reason they are the leanest (lowest in body fat %). But since the Western diet has snuck its way into Asia because it's becoming more affordable and fast food (mainly meats, fats, oil, and grease [fats]) is more accessible, obesity is increasing.
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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #21 on: February 12, 2025, 01:13:05 PM »
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    If you look at people from Asian countries countries, they eat mostly organic veggies with small amounts of meat and fish on side. 7 day adventists are healthy too. 
    Viva, Asian countries' diets are not the same as the 'food guide' you originally posted.  Asians cook their veggies, while you recommended raw veggies.  Asians also eat fish (high in oil) and noodles/rice (which your recommendation said to limit).

    I'm not trying to attack you, but the Asian diet couldn't be more opposite of your original chart.

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #22 on: February 12, 2025, 03:26:37 PM »
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  • I have a master's degree in health and wellness, and graduate study in exercise physiology and nutrition, and I have much anecdotal experience.  I can objectively and categorically say that everyone, except the OP, who has commented on diet here in this thread is in great error. One of the few things wrong with the OP is to discourage fruit juice which is ridiculous because the same chart promotes fruits. It's a contradiction. Both fruits and fruit juice are healthy. But overall, the OP is far more correct than everyone else, but still not optimal.
    Well then you should know the enormous benefits of a carnivore diet which Persto stated in a previous post. Ancestral eating, i.e. fatty meat,  is full of the nutrition the human body needs and the improvements in my blood work as a result of consuming meat only every day (Friday it's salmon) is all the proof I need. Unfortunately, they don't teach this in colleges and universities.


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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #23 on: February 12, 2025, 03:39:57 PM »
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  • Carnivore diet is a healing diet!  It can be maintained over a lifetime. Many courageous doctors are speaking out about this.
    We have been lied to about diet.  Do the research on carnivore and it will open your eyes.
    Thank you Viva for bringing up this important topic!


    Thank you for posting this video, being a carnivore guy myself, this is very helpful info and confirms a lot of what I've uncovered in my own research!!

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #24 on: February 12, 2025, 04:36:07 PM »
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  • Right now most meat in USA  is full of vaccines and antibiotics including jab shot. Are deer full of Lyme disease?  I don’t know.  (That disease was created in lab)  Now they created chicken disease. 

    If you look at people from Asian countries countries, they eat mostly organic veggies with small amounts of meat and fish on side. 7 day adventists are healthy too.
    Beware eating deer, elk, moose, etc. The brain wasting prion disease among them is of far more concern to me than Lyme Disease. I do not believe there are human Lyme cases contacted directly from deer meet to humans. The deer tick vector needs to come into play. Lyme is a spirochete, susceptible to specific antibiotics if caught early enough. Prion diseases are 100% fatal. 

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #25 on: February 12, 2025, 05:09:46 PM »
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  • I have a master's degree in health and wellness, and graduate study in exercise physiology and nutrition, and I have much anecdotal experience.  I can objectively and categorically say that everyone, except the OP, who has commented on diet here in this thread is in great error. One of the few things wrong with the OP is to discourage fruit juice which is ridiculous because the same chart promotes fruits. It's a contradiction. Both fruits and fruit juice are healthy. But overall, the OP is far more correct than everyone else, but still not optimal.
    This is very general condemnation.  Can you provide more details about what is in "grave error"?  Honest question.  

    Are you supportive of a vegan-esque diet?  Why or why not?
    Are you against a Dr Adkins-like diet?  Why or why not?

    Would like to know more.


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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #26 on: February 13, 2025, 05:07:49 AM »
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  • Beware eating deer, elk, moose, etc. The brain wasting prion disease among them is of far more concern to me than Lyme Disease. I do not believe there are human Lyme cases contacted directly from deer meet to humans. The deer tick vector needs to come into play. Lyme is a spirochete, susceptible to specific antibiotics if caught early enough. Prion diseases are 100% fatal.
    How interesting...  We grew up with my father and brothers hunting each year and maybe 1/3 of the meat we ate was deer venison.  I never heard of Prion disease until now though.   Any information about it that you can share?

    (For our birthdays each year my mother would let us pick the meal for dinner.  Mine often was venison steaks marinated in natural soy sauce....Haven't had those in a LONG time...)
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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #27 on: February 13, 2025, 06:43:14 PM »
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  • I have a master's degree in health and wellness, and graduate study in exercise physiology and nutrition, and I have much anecdotal experience.  I can objectively and categorically say that everyone, except the OP, who has commented on diet here in this thread is in great error. One of the few things wrong with the OP is to discourage fruit juice which is ridiculous because the same chart promotes fruits. It's a contradiction. Both fruits and fruit juice are healthy. But overall, the OP is far more correct than everyone else, but still not optimal.
    Dr. Eric Westman, MD is a medical researcher at Duke Univ. in N. Carolina. He has been researching Keto/Carnivore for 25+ years.
    Give this video a listen! He talks about how healthy and safe the Carnivore diet is. 

    Persevere...
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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #28 on: February 13, 2025, 09:45:36 PM »
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  • How interesting...  We grew up with my father and brothers hunting each year and maybe 1/3 of the meat we ate was deer venison.  I never heard of Prion disease until now though.  Any information about it that you can share?

    (For our birthdays each year my mother would let us pick the meal for dinner.  Mine often was venison steaks marinated in natural soy sauce....Haven't had those in a LONG time...)
    Look on YouTube, Rumble, etc. for the “Mad Cow Disease” outbreak in England. Warning, it’s not for children. 

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    Re: For better health
    « Reply #29 on: February 13, 2025, 10:07:02 PM »
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  • Dr. Eric Westman, MD is a medical researcher at Duke Univ. in N. Carolina. He has been researching Keto/Carnivore for 25+ years.
    Give this video a listen! He talks about how healthy and safe the Carnivore diet is.
    No thanks. I don't listen to jews. They're liars.

    And I know from personal observation, study, and experience that carnivore/keto is an inferior diet. Hey, if you want high body fat %, low energy, heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, cancers, body odor and bad breath, then enjoy your carnivore/keto diet.

    Most people on this thread are rationalizing their gluttony for meat and other fatty foods.
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