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Re: ETHICAL VACCINES
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2021, 08:55:50 AM »
I would never take any vaccine after all the research I've done on them over the years. No 'real' vaccine is safe or effective, it's based on pseudo-science. There's so much information about this out there now I don't see how it can be ignored. I've never really trusted doctors, hospitals, and big pharma. But the more I looked into Louis Pasteur and the science and history behind vaccines, the more I became convinced they're totally useless, and not only useless, but evil in most cases, at least in terms of their effects on people. I've read hundreds of stories, many books, many articles, tons of videos on this. Vaccines are not safe, and they do not prevent disease.

Vaccines are one of the greatest medical lies ever told, if not the greatest.


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Re: ETHICAL VACCINES
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2021, 10:34:24 AM »
I would never take any vaccine after all the research I've done on them over the years. No 'real' vaccine is safe or effective, it's based on pseudo-science. There's so much information about this out there now I don't see how it can be ignored. I've never really trusted doctors, hospitals, and big pharma. But the more I looked into Louis Pasteur and the science and history behind vaccines, the more I became convinced they're totally useless, and not only useless, but evil in most cases, at least in terms of their effects on people. I've read hundreds of stories, many books, many articles, tons of videos on this. Vaccines are not safe, and they do not prevent disease.

Vaccines are one of the greatest medical lies ever told, if not the greatest.



I agree.

You have to keep an open mind as you research this. I was surprised to learn that vaccines didn't even "save us" in the best, classic cases they always put forth as examples. Looking at the data, the major decline (the sharp dropoff, going off a cliff) in cases started to happen BEFORE THE VACCINE WAS RELEASED. What caused the dropoff? SANITATION. Widespread use of public sewer systems, indoor plumbing/toilets, clean water, etc. Better hygiene. That is what deserves the credit.

Regardless, even if one or two diseases were wiped out (or near wiped-out) by a vaccine, the fact we have dozens of vaccines, aimed at children under 5, most of which have zero-to-no upside, is a crime against humanity. We're causing far more harm than good.

Why is every child given a shot for Hep B? Even if Mom isn't promiscuous, and doesn't use intravenous illegal drugs? It's ridiculous.


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Re: ETHICAL VACCINES
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2021, 10:36:09 AM »
Here's the thing: you have to weigh the pros and cons.

The cons are a huge pile at this point.

The pros are pretty slim. Most of these diseases are rare, and non-deadly.

The more benefit the vaccine offers, the more "cons" or risk you can tolerate.


But then there's the indisputable fact that BIG PHARMA CAN'T BE TRUSTED. That is the main reason I don't do vaccines for me or mine.

Re: ETHICAL VACCINES
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2021, 10:46:01 AM »
Definitely agree Matthew, and yes I know those charts you refer to.

Here is what a normal life should be like:

You're born. You get no drugs and no vaccinations. During childhood you have the usual illnesses, but conservative treatment gets you through them without antibiotics or drugs, and you build your natural immune defenses. You don't eat white sugar, white flour, too much meat or cheese, or drink pasteurized milk or soft drinks. You concentrate on whole grains, fruits, vegetables, and a clean, natural diet. You never learn to drink excessive coffee or to smoke cigarettes. You don't sit-down staring at a computer all-day everyday.  You get sunlight and fresh-air. The only pills you take are powerful whole food vitamins and enzymes and minerals, which are part of your daily intake. You drink at least 1 liter of water every day. Into adulthood, you never get sick: no colds, no flu, no headaches, no diabetes, no ADD, no "thyroid problems," no panic attacks, growing pains, fatigue, or digestive disorders, no high blood pressure. The only pains you experience come from accidental injury. Perhaps you do moderate exercise or sports activity to maintain mobility and general fitness. You look to the care of your spine. Your entire adulthood is spent in this disease-free mode. As you age, your mind gets sharper. You experience no arthritis or osteoporosis, no Parkinson's or Alzheimer's. Finally one day after 90 or 100 years, you flicker like a candle and go out.

Re: ETHICAL VACCINES
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2021, 05:47:16 PM »
If I completely reject modern medicine, I will probably not live as long as I would have if I had participated in it. 

I agree with the rest of what you wrote. But I think this here is probably wrong.