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    More than a decade after its outbreak, the name “SARS” still incites memories of worldwide panic over a disease that, we thought at the time, couldn’t be stopped. Now, 13 years later, scientists have created a hybrid version of a virus that could be the world’s next pandemic, a “SARS 2.0.”

    The findings have brought up ethical questions about whether scientists should pursue “gain-of-function” research, or work that could increase the virulence of certain pathogens, despite the dangers of creating a virus that could potentially wreak havoc if released into the wild.

    Furthermore, the study comes in the wake of a US government announcement of a moratorium on federal funding for research that focused on the viruses that cause SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome), as well as those that cause influenza and MERS. This study began before that ban was created, so it was grandfathered in and allowed to run to completion.

    In order to study the virus in a lab, scientists created a “chimaeric virus,” or a hybrid made of protein and the structure of a SARS virus. Critics say that the benefit isn’t worth it to isolate a virus that, theoretically, could escape the lab and infect people.

    “If the virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, told Nature.

    The virus in question, a strain of bat coronavirus, is similar to severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), the disease that triggered widespread panic during an outbreak in Asia in 2002 and 2003 that spread to 29 countries, infected about 8,000, and killed over 700 people. After the outbreak, scientists concluded that the virus likely jumped from a species of bat to humans through a process called zoonotic transfer.

        The findings could provide a way to create vaccines and immunotherapy treatments before the next epidemic strikes

    Now, according to the new study published in the journal Nature Medicine, the very same bat species—the Chinese horseshoe bat—may be harboring another virus with similar characteristics. One of those characteristics is that, unfortunately for us, the “highly pathogenic” virus can be transferred to humans.

    “The strain grew equally well to SARS in human cells,” Dr. Ralph Baric, a professor of epidemiology at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and the lead author of the study, told Motherboard. “It resisted all vaccines and immunotherapy, too.”

    But Baric argues that the research is helpful to preparing vaccines for the next epidemic. Most often, one strain will emerge along with several other, very similar strains—just like these strains did among bat populations. Baric likens this to a swarm of emerging viruses.

    “This is the main problem with emerging viruses,” he said. “In animals, there is a beehive of emerging viruses. You get strains that are more and more diverse—but they’re still closely related.”

    In this case, the newly-created virus, labeled SHC014-CoV, is just 12 percent different from SARS. And it’s not if a strand like this will cause an outbreak—but when.

    “We were actually fairly lucky with SARS; humanity was, I mean,” said Baric. “It was a credit to public health actions, like quarantines—that’s what really stopped [the] epidemic.”

    But, said Baric, if people hadn’t acted quickly in the small window of 24 to 30 hours after it began, the SARS outbreak would have ended very differently.

    “People don’t realize how really lucky we are,” he said.

    According to Baric, the risk of “gain-of-function” research is worth it. The findings could provide a way to create vaccines and immunotherapy treatments before the next epidemic strikes. Because we have identified both SARS and SHC014-CoV, it’s now possible to develop vaccines that could target those viruses and the viruses that share commonalities between them. In other words, the new findings may help develop vaccines for many more strains of infectious diseases even though we haven’t identified them yet.

    “Now, we can capture the entire swarm,” Baric said. “That’s the beauty of the study and most important take-home."

    Right now, it’s unclear right whether the new virus, like SARS, could jump from human to human yet. Until then, scientists will continue to develop new defenses against the next epidemic—and wait for it to arrive.

    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


    Offline Lion of Juda

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #1 on: February 12, 2020, 04:55:47 PM »
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  • So I read somebody on anther thread post something about "Croix de Fer" on this forum. I google the name and this thread comes up!  

    WOW !!! This man was way ahead of the knowledge curve regarding coronaviruses and Dual Use Research of Concern. I searched other threads and this man was prolific in warning people about a coming engineered pandemic! Nice job, fellow!


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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #2 on: February 12, 2020, 05:01:56 PM »
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  • So I read somebody on anther thread post something about "Croix de Fer" on this forum. I google the name and this thread comes up!  

    WOW !!! This man was way ahead of the knowledge curve regarding coronaviruses and Dual Use Research of Concern. I searched other threads and this man was prolific in warning people about a coming engineered pandemic! Nice job, fellow!
    :jester:
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #3 on: February 12, 2020, 05:03:22 PM »
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  • So I read somebody on anther thread post something about "Croix de Fer" on this forum. I google the name and this thread comes up!  

    WOW !!! This man was way ahead of the knowledge curve regarding coronaviruses and Dual Use Research of Concern. I searched other threads and this man was prolific in warning people about a coming engineered pandemic! Nice job, fellow!
    This is a sign that you are CROIX DE FER, because he always praises his posts whatever his current reincarnation is.

    In addition, Croix (Lion of Juda) hates women and hates Jєωs. That is his obsession.

    I gather that his mother abused him.
    Lord have mercy.

    Offline 2Vermont

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #4 on: February 12, 2020, 05:07:30 PM »
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  • Which means he had 2 accounts at the same time.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


    Offline Maria Regina

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #5 on: February 12, 2020, 05:09:40 PM »
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  • Which means he had 2 accounts at the same time.
    He has multiple accounts just in case Matthew bans him.
    He attacks, is banned, then starts using another account that was set up a month or two ago.

    And he just downrated you for your post, so I uprated you.

    See? He downrated me two times again.
    Lord have mercy.

    Offline Lion of Juda

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #6 on: February 12, 2020, 05:11:30 PM »
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  • Please don't muddy this thread with your paranoia and neurosis. Thank you. You can keep down-voting my posts with your pathology. Thanks, again.

    Offline Maria Regina

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #7 on: February 12, 2020, 05:12:23 PM »
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  • Please don't muddy this thread with your paranoia and neurosis. Thank you. You can keep down-voting my posts with your pathology. Thanks, again.
    Typical Croix de Fer as you start to give pop psy advice.
    Lord have mercy.


    Offline Lion of Juda

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #8 on: February 12, 2020, 05:14:27 PM »
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  • I'm not Mr. Corix de Fer. Seems he is hated for speaking the truth as far as I've hitherto gathered.

    Offline Lion of Juda

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #9 on: February 12, 2020, 05:19:41 PM »
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  • It's funny how to accuse me of calling attention to Mr. Croix de Fer, but it was you who first brought him up. In fact, you most recently dedicated a whole thread to him. Pull the beam out of your own eye before you judge others.

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #10 on: February 12, 2020, 05:23:48 PM »
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  • So I read somebody on anther thread post something about "Croix de Fer" on this forum. I google the name and this thread comes up!  

    WOW !!! This man was way ahead of the knowledge curve regarding coronaviruses and Dual Use Research of Concern. I searched other threads and this man was prolific in warning people about a coming engineered pandemic! Nice job, fellow!
    Really?  What did you type into Google because that's not what came up for me.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #11 on: February 12, 2020, 05:24:33 PM »
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  • It's funny how to accuse me of calling attention to Mr. Croix de Fer, but it was you who first brought him up. In fact, you most recently dedicated a whole thread to him. Pull the beam out of your own eye before you judge others.
    Funny how you hate Jєωs, hate women, and have become a pop psychiatrist, just as Croix de Fer.
    You would destroy this forum with your hatred if you could.
    Lord have mercy.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #12 on: February 12, 2020, 05:35:30 PM »
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  • I'm not Mr. Corix de Fer. Seems he is hated for speaking the truth as far as I've hitherto gathered.

    Yep.  You're Croix.

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #13 on: February 12, 2020, 05:38:04 PM »
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  • It's funny how to accuse me of calling attention to Mr. Croix de Fer, but it was you who first brought him up. In fact, you most recently dedicated a whole thread to him. Pull the beam out of your own eye before you judge others.
    Hmmm...which thread would that be?  Do you have a female fake account too?

    ETA:  My mistake.  I see that there is another one devoted to you.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    Re: Ethical ?s Arise After Scientists Brew Super Powerful SARS 2.0 Virus
    « Reply #14 on: February 12, 2020, 05:41:44 PM »
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  • Hmmm...which thread would that be?  Do you have a female fake account too?

    ETA:  My mistake.  I see that there is another one devoted to you.
    He is history. Thanks mods.
    Lord have mercy.