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Offline andysloan

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« on: December 03, 2013, 08:28:36 PM »
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    « Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 04:49:18 PM »
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  • OK, I read it.  Seems like good advice.  However, I'm stumped by this one:

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    Those who are caught traveling on the road and unable to get to shelter will die as martyrs and be taken to Heaven if they are in a state of grace and reconciliation with God the Eternal Father and Our Lord, Jesus Christ. Some children and others will be taken to Heaven beforehand, to spare them the horror of these days. "THOSE WHO DISREGARD THIS ADVICE WILL BE KILLED INSTANTLY"


    So...if you're out-of-door, you die a martyr.  Of course, martyrs for the faith die in a state of grace since they shed blood for Christ...so, why would one not want to be caught out of doors?  Especially considering that the days will be so horrible that 'some children and others' will apparently die just to spare them...why would I not want to be caught outside?

    And, what 'advice' is there here?  Don't leave the house?  Or don't go outside?  Or else I'll be martyred and taken to heaven and spared the awful days like the children?

    OK.  Sign me up.  I'll stay outside.  


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    « Reply #2 on: December 04, 2013, 04:57:39 PM »
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  • Quote from: andysloan
    http://www.stmichaelstore.com/endtimes.html


     I accidentally commented in the Library thread. I meant to post this comment / question here.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    « Reply #3 on: December 04, 2013, 05:03:34 PM »
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  • Why must I buy these numerous items from this store?  Salvation has a monetary price tag attached?  I do not necessarily disbelieve the locutions and visions, but the capitalism I reject, outright!  Better to die in the open a martyr than risk forgetting one small item deemed necessary by the merchant of this site.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #4 on: December 04, 2013, 05:09:41 PM »
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    Matthew 19:11

    "Who said to them: All men take not this word, but they to whom it is given."


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    « Reply #5 on: December 04, 2013, 05:54:28 PM »
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  • So...when someone questions anything Andysloan says, his answer is always the same, a scriptural reference to how some will listen to the word of God, and some won't, indicating that he is some kind of oracle.  

    I do not, really do not see any difference between this attitude, and that edb123 dude who says he knows when the second coming is, since he had a dream about hexagonal lightning.

    I still want to know how being caught out in the open is a worse deal than hunkering down in my house to ride out the days.  I also am idly wondering why a roof is so magical.  


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    « Reply #6 on: December 04, 2013, 06:05:11 PM »
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  • Wow it's been a long time since I last saw that storefront. . How many years has it been? Quite a few.

    Changed hands once I believe.

    Hmm. If I recall correctly, I think I still have two tiny bottles of their holy oils left, only I don't think they provide  anymore. Holy Martyrs of the Plague in Alexandria and St. Germaine of Pibrac.


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    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    « Reply #7 on: December 04, 2013, 06:11:42 PM »
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  • I used to have a website devoted to sacramentals info, so I linked to some of the earliest sacramentals providers on the web. That shop was one of them I recall, then RC Sacramentals Foundation, an antique scapular shop that is no longer with us.. Radiance Scapulars...

    That was awhile back. Hmm. I think they were called Freitag Publishing back then.
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-


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    « Reply #8 on: December 04, 2013, 06:19:07 PM »
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  • So, I have to ask for more clarifications.

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    STORAGE OF FOOD
    Keep on hand a sufficient supply of food, water and blankets for those of your household and any visitors. Do not count on any utilities. Store food which will not perish or require fire to prepare. Also store water. Blessed grapes will also suffice for the Three Days as one grape shall be enough to sustain a person for entire day.


    So, I need 3 blessed grapes per person?  

    Why would it not be better to fast?  Fasting for 3 days is doable.  


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    DO NOT TAKE ANIMALS INTO YOUR HOME
    Take care of your animals by leaving enough food and water outside for them to last these days. God will preserve the property of the elect, including their animals. It is assumed that house pets may be kept inside. Animals which have been petted or cared for by a blessed person receive a certain protection.


    So, an animal that lives exclusively inside can stay inside?  But an animal that does not live exclusively inside can't?  Or else...what?  Our cat goes outside only when we leave the door open accidentally...can she stay inside?  What % of time must an animal have spent outside to be relegated to staying outside during the days?

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    Demons will imitate your loved ones' voice to entice to go outside and kill you. ANYONE WHO LOOKS OUT OR GOES OUT WILL DIE IMMEDIATELY! The wrath of God is holy and He does not want us to see it.


    So, the demons want to lure us outside so that we die as martyrs?  I admit, this seems odd for demons.

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    The three days of darkness have already been postponed several times by the increased prayers and the sacrifices of good people and through the intercession of Our Blessed Mother. Now they will no longer be delayed because sins have multiplied beyond measure. THEY WILL COME SOON, for in the merciful plan of God, this world must be purified of its sin. It is predicted that these Three Days of Darkness will come and no one will escape the terror of these days!

    "I will find them all," says Our Lord.

    Remedies Revealed to Marie-Julie Jahenny (1850-1941) for the "Time of Times"


    So...1850-1941...I guess they got delayed again after all, huh?  I mean, she thought the world of 1850-1941 needed to be cleansed...and now we have abortion and gαy marriage...what happened during the sɛҳuąƖ revolution?  Did enough people pray that the cleansing would not occur, and this allowed the sɛҳuąƖ revolution to get off the ground, resulting in what we have now?

    If so STOP PRAYING ABOUT IT.  God apparently wanted to cleanse the Earth sometime between 1850 and 1941 (and previous times before) and people praying stopped it.  This was not a good idea!  Look what it got us!  


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    « Reply #9 on: December 04, 2013, 06:29:58 PM »
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  • 1 Timothy 6:3-4

    "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to that doctrine which is according to godliness, He is proud, knowing nothing, but sick about questions and strifes of words; from which arise envies, contentions, blasphemies, evil suspicions"

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    « Reply #10 on: December 04, 2013, 07:57:06 PM »
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  • Yeah, Andy, except you're not relaying the sound words of Jesus Christ, but of seers and those who seek to profit off of them.  


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    « Reply #11 on: December 04, 2013, 09:25:48 PM »
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  • I find your disposition very sad Icterus.

    You have a "push through the crowd, it's me everyone, listen to what I have to say!"manner.


    This series of apparitions has Bishop's approval and has spiritual fruits that are rich and profuse. Marie Julie Jahenney bore the stigmata of Christ to an unprecedented degree. Her authenticity is commonly accepted among Traditional Catholics.

    Thus, the revelations must be approached with reverence and gratitude.


    Thus you are cautioned:

       

    Matthew 12:36


    "But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment."




    In answer to some of your questions, we ought not to seek martyrdom as an end in itself, but after the example of Christ, God's will alone:

       

    Mark 14:36

    "And he saith: Abba, Father, all things are possible to thee: remove this chalice from me; but not what I will, but what thou wilt."


    Gratefully receiving such heavenly instruction, we are bound to act upon it. The reason for remaining inside (apart from the obvious practical reason) is that the 3 days of darkness is a time of God's wrath on the earth and we are forbidden to observe it:

    Genesis 19:26

    "And his wife looking behind her, was turned into a statue of salt."


    The knowledge that a person found outside will die but be counted as a martyr, is surely a comfort to family and friends of such persons.


    God bless.






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    « Reply #12 on: December 04, 2013, 10:12:56 PM »
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    I find your disposition very sad Icterus.

    You have a "push through the crowd, it's me everyone, listen to what I have to say!"manner.


    Well, I find your unconditional acceptance of...well...everything, whether it makes sense and is consistent with other Catholic principles or not, perplexing.  

    But, different strokes.  You can post whatever Matthew lets you post, and I can question it so long as Matthew allows me to question it.


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    « Reply #13 on: December 04, 2013, 10:21:51 PM »
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  • To Icterus,


    Could you please give me examples in justification of your statement:


    "Well, I find your unconditional acceptance of...well...everything, whether it makes sense and is consistent with other Catholic principles or not, perplexing."



    And you ought to keep in mind the eigth commandment.



    God bless.

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    « Reply #14 on: December 04, 2013, 10:33:09 PM »
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  • Well, since you and I have been butting heads over myriad conspiracy theories in that thread, feel free to go back and reference it.  I don't feel like retyping everything I typed yesterday because you have a short memory.

    Credulity is not a virtue.  

    'arguing' with someone by posting verses of scripture about how if they don't heed you they aren't heeding God...brother, that may be a very serious thing.  I tend to be flip rather than overly dramatic, but seriously, if I went around like you did, and every time someone challenged some fool thing I linked I promised them the wrath of God for their lack of faith...shoot, I'd be wondering why I didn't get struck by lighting!