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Does anyone have experience owning a single dairy cow?
« on: July 10, 2023, 09:06:45 AM »
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  • We might want to get one in the future since we're constantly running out of milk and dairy has just been getting expensive in general. Does anyone have experience preserving the milk (the excess)? Also, I read that people these days do artificial insemination but there are alternatives like keeping the bull around or taking the female to someone who has a bull. 

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    Re: Does anyone have experience owning a single dairy cow?
    « Reply #1 on: July 10, 2023, 10:05:33 AM »
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  • We might want to get one in the future since we're constantly running out of milk and dairy has just been getting expensive in general. Does anyone have experience preserving the milk (the excess)? Also, I read that people these days do artificial insemination but there are alternatives like keeping the bull around or taking the female to someone who has a bull.
    Many years ago I thought about getting a cow for milk, but 5 or 6 goats will get you about the same amount of milk as one dairy cow and imo are a lot easier to work with and the milk is healthier. Might be worth looking into.
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    Re: Does anyone have experience owning a single dairy cow?
    « Reply #2 on: July 10, 2023, 10:44:45 AM »
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  • Does anyone have experience preserving the milk (the excess)?
    If you can make yogurt and cheese even with the stuff that they sell in the supermarket in Mexico (where I live), I'd think that it should be even easier to do it with non-pasteurized, natural milk.

    For making yogurt you just warm up a little bit the milk and then let it ferment for a few hours in the dark. Times and temperatures may vary, so you'll have to experiment.

    I never made cheese but I know someone who did and I think you had to slowly heat up the yogurt until the whey and curds separated.
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    Re: Does anyone have experience owning a single dairy cow?
    « Reply #3 on: July 10, 2023, 10:45:50 AM »
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  • My family, and most of our neighbors, had family milk cows when I was growing up.  I think it was a requirement that any farm family that had a U.S. Farmers Home Administration (FHA) operating loan had to have a milk cow, garden, maybe even chickens for eggs, we had all those.  After Claribel, our first milk cow, I got my first Jersey heifer as a 4-H project, and I took care of her and my brother’s project animals.  At one point I was milking up to four cows before and after school and had purchased a used milking machine system.  Surplus raw milk was sold to the neighbors.  We also made butter, and raised pigs on the skim milk.

    The first factor to consider and research is what it will cost to feed your own milk cow.  Unless you have land and irrigation for pasture and already own the equipment to make hay for winter feed you may find that those store prices for dairy products aren’t so far out of line from the actual costs of production.  You will likely want to offer a little grain: corn, oats, barley (some feed stores offer a “lower cost” mix called COB); wheat can be used also but shouldn’t be more than 40% of the grain mix (I don’t remember the reason).  There should also be a vitamin and mineral package, either in the grain mix or as a top dress.  A family milk cow doesn’t necessarily need cereal grains (or a lot) as they can produce sufficient milk for a family if they have high quality forages (high quality being key), but cows like a bit of “candy” and adequate vitamins and minerals are important.  The modern dairy cows puts out over 100 lbs. of milk per day (8.6 lbs. per gallon), but they are on a very energy rich diet, you won’t need to feed them like that for a family milk cow.

    The second factor is pregnancy.  Lactation is a function of motherhood (that’s why liquids from soybeans, almonds, and whatever other plant, are juices, NOT “milk”, and should be labeled as such).  When a calf is born (and every other mammal) the mother begins lactating.  The production of milk will reach a peak, and then begin to gradually diminish until she stops lactating – this is called the lactation curve.  The female needs to become pregnant and give birth again to restart the lactation curve and achieve another period of peak production.  If there is an artificial insemination service available locally (a business I was in for many years), that will be easiest, cheapest, and safest.  Otherwise, you will need to find someone with a bull and have a rig and trailer available to either bring the cow to the bull, or vice versa.  An alternative could be to purchase an already lactating cow, milk her until she no longer produces, then sell her for beef and buy another cow.

    Surplus milk can be turned into cheese (there are lots of information resources for homemade cheese).  Cream can be skimmed off and made into butter, the skim milk can be used to feed calves or pigs.  Surplus milk can also be sold to the neighbors, or traded for food products they produce ~ sanitation and hygiene are absolutely critical if you will be marketing raw milk.

    Most people would milk their cow twice a day, though some only once a day, with diminished production.  Being an hour or two off from the usual milking time is not a big deal, but you can’t just decide to skip a milking because it isn’t convenient or the family is on a trip.  You will have to have a plan for the cow to be milked EVERY day.

    Ideally a cow becomes pregnant again 60 – 90 days postpartum and the gestation period is around 283 days (it varies by breed).  She should have a rest period before the next calf.  Sixty days is standard but some use 30 – 45 days.  She is “dried off” (stop milking her) which allows the alveoli cells in the udder to regenerate.  Since she isn’t lactating she can be feed a milder or less “hot”, less energy dense diet which allows her digestive system to slow down and regenerate (I am being a bit simplistic, but the principal of a rest is valid).  If she has been primarily on concrete it is good to get her onto dirt or a soft pack to give her feet, legs, and joints a rest.  So, unless you have two milk cows there will be this period for a month or two when you don’t have milk being produced.






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    Re: Does anyone have experience owning a single dairy cow?
    « Reply #4 on: July 10, 2023, 11:20:22 AM »
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  • My family, and most of our neighbors, had family milk cows when I was growing up.  I think it was a requirement that any farm family that had a U.S. Farmers Home Administration (FHA) operating loan had to have a milk cow, garden, maybe even chickens for eggs, we had all those.  After Claribel, our first milk cow, I got my first Jersey heifer as a 4-H project, and I took care of her and my brother’s project animals.  At one point I was milking up to four cows before and after school and had purchased a used milking machine system.  Surplus raw milk was sold to the neighbors.  We also made butter, and raised pigs on the skim milk.

    The first factor to consider and research is what it will cost to feed your own milk cow.  Unless you have land and irrigation for pasture and already own the equipment to make hay for winter feed you may find that those store prices for dairy products aren’t so far out of line from the actual costs of production.  You will likely want to offer a little grain: corn, oats, barley (some feed stores offer a “lower cost” mix called COB); wheat can be used also but shouldn’t be more than 40% of the grain mix (I don’t remember the reason).  There should also be a vitamin and mineral package, either in the grain mix or as a top dress.  A family milk cow doesn’t necessarily need cereal grains (or a lot) as they can produce sufficient milk for a family if they have high quality forages (high quality being key), but cows like a bit of “candy” and adequate vitamins and minerals are important.  The modern dairy cows puts out over 100 lbs. of milk per day (8.6 lbs. per gallon), but they are on a very energy rich diet, you won’t need to feed them like that for a family milk cow.

    The second factor is pregnancy.  Lactation is a function of motherhood (that’s why liquids from soybeans, almonds, and whatever other plant, are juices, NOT “milk”, and should be labeled as such).  When a calf is born (and every other mammal) the mother begins lactating.  The production of milk will reach a peak, and then begin to gradually diminish until she stops lactating – this is called the lactation curve.  The female needs to become pregnant and give birth again to restart the lactation curve and achieve another period of peak production.  If there is an artificial insemination service available locally (a business I was in for many years), that will be easiest, cheapest, and safest.  Otherwise, you will need to find someone with a bull and have a rig and trailer available to either bring the cow to the bull, or vice versa.  An alternative could be to purchase an already lactating cow, milk her until she no longer produces, then sell her for beef and buy another cow.

    Surplus milk can be turned into cheese (there are lots of information resources for homemade cheese).  Cream can be skimmed off and made into butter, the skim milk can be used to feed calves or pigs.  Surplus milk can also be sold to the neighbors, or traded for food products they produce ~ sanitation and hygiene are absolutely critical if you will be marketing raw milk.

    Most people would milk their cow twice a day, though some only once a day, with diminished production.  Being an hour or two off from the usual milking time is not a big deal, but you can’t just decide to skip a milking because it isn’t convenient or the family is on a trip.  You will have to have a plan for the cow to be milked EVERY day.

    Ideally a cow becomes pregnant again 60 – 90 days postpartum and the gestation period is around 283 days (it varies by breed).  She should have a rest period before the next calf.  Sixty days is standard but some use 30 – 45 days.  She is “dried off” (stop milking her) which allows the alveoli cells in the udder to regenerate.  Since she isn’t lactating she can be feed a milder or less “hot”, less energy dense diet which allows her digestive system to slow down and regenerate (I am being a bit simplistic, but the principal of a rest is valid).  If she has been primarily on concrete it is good to get her onto dirt or a soft pack to give her feet, legs, and joints a rest.  So, unless you have two milk cows there will be this period for a month or two when you don’t have milk being produced.






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    Very informative post, Moneil!

    The one thing I would stress, which you mentioned, is that the cow needs to be milked every day (except as you said, during the dry rest period).

    My grandparents had a 40 cow dairy farm (not including calves), and the only time they ever left the farm -ever- was when one of the 9 children were married (and then it was only a 2 day trip down south to Minneapolis).  They had brothers, cousins, and uncles among the surrounding farms who filled in for them on these occasions, and my grandparents (and their kids) reciprocated when they left for their own weddings.

    But the point is to consider that one way or the other, the cow needs to get milked, period, and this might entail lifestyle changes and inconveniences, depending on what you have going on.

    PS: If you sell raw milk, better to be tight lipped about it (and certainly don't advertise onling/craigslist, etc), as it might be cause for sending in the Marines: https://www.johnlocke.org/swat-teams-versus-dairy-farmers/ 
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    Re: Does anyone have experience owning a single dairy cow?
    « Reply #5 on: July 10, 2023, 12:16:12 PM »
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  • Many years ago I thought about getting a cow for milk, but 5 or 6 goats will get you about the same amount of milk as one dairy cow and imo are a lot easier to work with and the milk is healthier. Might be worth looking into.
    Yeah, I've considered goat and sheep milk but i don't really like the taste (at least the ones from the store). I agree, they are alot easier to handle.

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    Re: Does anyone have experience owning a single dairy cow?
    « Reply #6 on: July 10, 2023, 12:42:30 PM »
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  • My family, and most of our neighbors, had family milk cows when I was growing up.  I think it was a requirement that any farm family that had a U.S. Farmers Home Administration (FHA) operating loan had to have a milk cow, garden, maybe even chickens for eggs, we had all those.  After Claribel, our first milk cow, I got my first Jersey heifer as a 4-H project, and I took care of her and my brother’s project animals.  At one point I was milking up to four cows before and after school and had purchased a used milking machine system.  Surplus raw milk was sold to the neighbors.  We also made butter, and raised pigs on the skim milk.

    The first factor to consider and research is what it will cost to feed your own milk cow.  Unless you have land and irrigation for pasture and already own the equipment to make hay for winter feed you may find that those store prices for dairy products aren’t so far out of line from the actual costs of production.  You will likely want to offer a little grain: corn, oats, barley (some feed stores offer a “lower cost” mix called COB); wheat can be used also but shouldn’t be more than 40% of the grain mix (I don’t remember the reason).  There should also be a vitamin and mineral package, either in the grain mix or as a top dress.  A family milk cow doesn’t necessarily need cereal grains (or a lot) as they can produce sufficient milk for a family if they have high quality forages (high quality being key), but cows like a bit of “candy” and adequate vitamins and minerals are important.  The modern dairy cows puts out over 100 lbs. of milk per day (8.6 lbs. per gallon), but they are on a very energy rich diet, you won’t need to feed them like that for a family milk cow.

    The second factor is pregnancy.  Lactation is a function of motherhood (that’s why liquids from soybeans, almonds, and whatever other plant, are juices, NOT “milk”, and should be labeled as such).  When a calf is born (and every other mammal) the mother begins lactating.  The production of milk will reach a peak, and then begin to gradually diminish until she stops lactating – this is called the lactation curve.  The female needs to become pregnant and give birth again to restart the lactation curve and achieve another period of peak production.  If there is an artificial insemination service available locally (a business I was in for many years), that will be easiest, cheapest, and safest.  Otherwise, you will need to find someone with a bull and have a rig and trailer available to either bring the cow to the bull, or vice versa.  An alternative could be to purchase an already lactating cow, milk her until she no longer produces, then sell her for beef and buy another cow.

    Surplus milk can be turned into cheese (there are lots of information resources for homemade cheese).  Cream can be skimmed off and made into butter, the skim milk can be used to feed calves or pigs.  Surplus milk can also be sold to the neighbors, or traded for food products they produce ~ sanitation and hygiene are absolutely critical if you will be marketing raw milk.

    Most people would milk their cow twice a day, though some only once a day, with diminished production.  Being an hour or two off from the usual milking time is not a big deal, but you can’t just decide to skip a milking because it isn’t convenient or the family is on a trip.  You will have to have a plan for the cow to be milked EVERY day.

    Ideally a cow becomes pregnant again 60 – 90 days postpartum and the gestation period is around 283 days (it varies by breed).  She should have a rest period before the next calf.  Sixty days is standard but some use 30 – 45 days.  She is “dried off” (stop milking her) which allows the alveoli cells in the udder to regenerate.  Since she isn’t lactating she can be feed a milder or less “hot”, less energy dense diet which allows her digestive system to slow down and regenerate (I am being a bit simplistic, but the principal of a rest is valid).  If she has been primarily on concrete it is good to get her onto dirt or a soft pack to give her feet, legs, and joints a rest.  So, unless you have two milk cows there will be this period for a month or two when you don’t have milk being produced.






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    Thanks moneil! Unfortunately, transporting raw milk is illegal here since the 1990s. Yeah, we don't take vacations so being homebound is okay for us. As someone who's nursing, understanding lactation in cows is very similar to humans with "supply and demand" concept. Are there cow breeds that could have a longer lactation period but not produce so much milk everyday (like a Holstein). We would have around 50 acres of grazing land for a cow(s). As for irrigation, not there yet. If the milk cow were to breed with a meat bull, would that be a problem? Yeah, we still need to work on sourcing for oats, barley, etc. and eventually would like to make our own chicken feed so i guess they could eat the same thing. 

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    Re: Does anyone have experience owning a single dairy cow?
    « Reply #7 on: July 10, 2023, 09:52:07 PM »
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  • We’ve milked a cow but right now we are milking goats. 

    I sure wouldn’t judge good goat milk by what you get at the store. Ours is free of any sort of “goaty” taste and 95% of that is directly due to how the milk is handled. Our best producer gives us over 2 gallons a day. Goats are so much more efficient than cows. You get so much more milk per pound of feed. 

    Anyway… enough about trying to convince you to do goats instead. 😂

    I make yogurt, kefir, cheese, sour cream, butter, cream cheese, cottage cheese… all of that stuff. I’ll be happy to share with you recipes or whatever you are wanting. 

    Other ways we use our milk is to feed our chickens (the milk helps to produce thicker egg shells), we feed our dog and cat with it and it’s great pig food. 

    We also freeze dry it, use it on our garden, and we even take milk baths on occasion. We also sell it. 

    Our goats pay for themselves plus more. The cow… we MAYBE break even, but I do love cows milk and the cream from cows is much easier to get. 
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    Re: Does anyone have experience owning a single dairy cow?
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  • Thanks moneil! Unfortunately, transporting raw milk is illegal here since the 1990s. Yeah, we don't take vacations so being homebound is okay for us. As someone who's nursing, understanding lactation in cows is very similar to humans with "supply and demand" concept. Are there cow breeds that could have a longer lactation period but not produce so much milk everyday (like a Holstein). We would have around 50 acres of grazing land for a cow(s). As for irrigation, not there yet. If the milk cow were to breed with a meat bull, would that be a problem? Yeah, we still need to work on sourcing for oats, barley, etc. and eventually would like to make our own chicken feed so i guess they could eat the same thing.
    I don't know if some breeds might have a more persistent lactation curve than others, but smaller breeds are, in my opinion, more suited as a family milk cow, such as the Jersey.  They are said to have a greater feed efficiency (requiring fewer lbs. of feed to produce a lb. of milk).  A dairy cow will daily eat up to about 2 - 3% of its body weight on a dry basis.

    It would make sense to breed her to a beef breed and raise the calf for meatk.

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    Re: Does anyone have experience owning a single dairy cow?
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  • We’ve milked a cow but right now we are milking goats.

    I sure wouldn’t judge good goat milk by what you get at the store. Ours is free of any sort of “goaty” taste and 95% of that is directly due to how the milk is handled. Our best producer gives us over 2 gallons a day. Goats are so much more efficient than cows. You get so much more milk per pound of feed.

    Anyway… enough about trying to convince you to do goats instead. 😂

    I make yogurt, kefir, cheese, sour cream, butter, cream cheese, cottage cheese… all of that stuff. I’ll be happy to share with you recipes or whatever you are wanting.

    Other ways we use our milk is to feed our chickens (the milk helps to produce thicker egg shells), we feed our dog and cat with it and it’s great pig food.

    We also freeze dry it, use it on our garden, and we even take milk baths on occasion. We also sell it.

    Our goats pay for themselves plus more. The cow… we MAYBE break even, but I do love cows milk and the cream from cows is much easier to get.
    Tell me about the freeze dried method? Do you have to buy special machinery? Is it like the powdered milk from the store? Maybe we can see if we can taste some goat milk locally. I'll be happy to see the recipes thanks, are you able to post them here? And, that's a great idea to feed the excess to the chickens, ours had a thin egg issue during the winter.