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Offline Vanguard

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Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2025, 04:26:54 PM »
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  • M said: Add in the lack of exercise and these young people are a heart attack waiting to happen.
    In my family there have been heavy smokers.  Some died at 87-106 years old.  No heart attacks, cancer etc.  But they were active!!!!  
    Must be the genes.


    There is a lot of reasons why the younger generation has issues with their weight. I’m older (gout, neuropathies, arthritis etc. can make even walking difficult), but the younger people have a ton of issues that might cause them to weigh more. 
    First, they may not even have any home cooked meals if both parents are working. Parents who work want something that doesn’t require a lot of time and energy to prepare. They probably will want to skip outings or to the park because they’re very tired. 
    Secondly, they may not live in a safe environment. Children cannot just wander around anymore without worrying about being trafficked. It’s not like the good old days. 
    Thirdly, they are exposed to many different chemicals and toxins in their food, water and environment. They also are required to get many more vaccines. 
    Many neighborhood venues like summer school, community sports leagues and concerts in the park have been cut by many towns. Parades are even in short supply. They’ve been replaced with expensive summer camps and sports leagues.  
    I feel bad for today’s youth. They are sad and depressed at what should be a very happy time in their lives. It’s no wonder that they are so sad and overweight. 

    Offline Seraphina

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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #16 on: June 23, 2025, 05:19:45 PM »
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  • I don’t smoke and I don’t have kids. By the time we were born, my father had quit smoking. Mom never smoked. Like me, she’d tried it a few times in high school and didn’t like it. Dad smoked from age 15 to about 21. My grandfather had been told by a doctor to quit or his lungs would quit on him. He had asthma.  
    Several of my aunts and uncles smoked, yes, in front of we kids, but we’re talking in the 1950’s, 1960’s, 1970’s, 1980’s.  Another uncle smoked a cherry tobacco pipe every Sunday afternoon. Lots of my friends’ parents smoked; so did my teachers. My high school had two student smoking areas outside with an overhead. Teachers had an indoor and outdoor smoking lounge. I recall an older priest whose name I don’t recall being a nervous man, a chain smoker. He’d stand outside a side door and smoke one cigarette after another before Mass. There was always a pile of butt ends on the ground where he stood. He smelled like cigarettes, too. 
    Unless someone had a particular aversion to it, smoking was ubiquitous in those days, so smoking in front of children was no big deal. It was the same thing with drinking. Giving one’s kids a taste of Daddy’s beer or Mommy’s daiquiri, was routine. It WAS clear, however, that smoking and drinking were for adults, not children. I remember hearing that it wasn’t good for us because our bodies were still growing. Once someone was an adult, it wasn’t harmful if done in moderation. I never saw my parents or adult relatives sick or intoxicated.  
    My sister smoked throughout high school (outside on the porch), and until she got pregnant in 1998. Being a high risk pregnancy due to her age, she was strongly advised to quit. She went back to it briefly due to job stress and having to place the baby in daycare. Her husband got laid off and the two jobs he worked still didn’t make ends meet, so she had no choice but to go to work.  When she found herself pregnant with another extremely high risk baby, she quit again and never went back. 
    I don’t think parents should expose children to second hand smoke. It’s unhealthy and can cause sinus, glue ear, respiratory problems in children. To me, it’s selfish. Parents should not choose their own pleasures at the expense of their children’s health. So far as merely seeing adults smoke, I’m okay with that, but I won’t encourage a child to take up the habit. Many people who smoke are addicted to the nicotine and I will point that out to children. I feel about the same when drinking alcohol. I don’t want a child to see someone intoxicated, but seeing an adult having a beer at a barbecue isn’t going to make most children into alcoholics.I know people who feel differently and I don’t blame them. People who have lost loved ones to smoking and alcohol often prevent their young children from even seeing adults indulge. A friend raised her children this way because of grandparents whose drinking or smoking resulted in tragedy. I don’t blame parents at all for adopting a substance free life. A friend told me, “I can’t prevent my 22 year old from smoking, drinking, or any other unhealthy habit, but I can truthfully say to them if they choose to indulge, “You didn’t learn that in our house.” They cannot point the finger and say, “Mom or Dad drank, smoked….did drugs, was promiscuous, etc..!


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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #17 on: June 24, 2025, 07:44:08 PM »
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  • In today's age of ubiquitous knowledge about the extremely harmful effects of smoking, a person must be a moron to start smoking.

    That "knowledge" comes from the same Machine that lies constantly, injects babies with poison and is trying to maim, sterilize or kill just about everyone on earth.  The lies about tobacco are, like all the others, just lies.

    I smoke what I want -- pipe, cigarette, cigar -- where and when I want.  I have told numerous busybodies throughout Traddieland -- usually in a parking lot after Holy Mass -- to mind their own business.  
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #18 on: June 24, 2025, 08:33:41 PM »
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  • Smoking supposedly significantly reduces the chance of catching covid. But it sure stinks on breath and clothing unlike some good wood smoke.
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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #19 on: June 24, 2025, 09:30:00 PM »
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  • St. Pius X snorted snuff tobacco. That stuff can make you holy!:incense:


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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #20 on: June 24, 2025, 09:48:52 PM »
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  • Back around the year 2000, EWTN interviewed Sr. Margherita Marchione who compiled the Pictorial Life of Pope Pius XII, published by Paulist press.
    During the interview I remember her saying that Pius XII used to "bum cigarettes from the members of the Swiss Guard" but she didn't include any pictures of him smoking in the book.
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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 03:37:21 AM »
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  • Our kickboxing teacher, a former champion of France has a cigarette after every training session. 

    At the Chartres pilgrimage, some would be smoking at the end of the daily 30 mile hike. 

    The key is moderation and to ensure the habit doesn't own you. I don't smoke anymore but I find agressive anti smokers very annoying. It seems to be a hangover from puritanism that Catholics in protestant countries sometimes display. 


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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 07:28:52 AM »
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  • That "knowledge" comes from the same Machine that lies constantly, injects babies with poison and is trying to maim, sterilize or kill just about everyone on earth.  The lies about tobacco are, like all the others, just lies.

    I smoke what I want -- pipe, cigarette, cigar -- where and when I want.  I have told numerous busybodies throughout Traddieland -- usually in a parking lot after Holy Mass -- to mind their own business.
    :facepalm:
    That Machine will tell people just enough truth to get them to swallow a bigger lie or tyranny. It's the latter in the case of smoking. The Machine is more concerned about controlling people by getting them to realize the diseased effects of smoking, hence, the population accepts government controls and regulation regarding public smoking. This is a strategy to get the population to accept further controls on their behavior because it's "for their well being" or "public health". It's called incremental or creeping tyranny. It's conditioning. Understand, fool?

    I bet your VO2max is pathetic.
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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 11:28:01 AM »
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  • :facepalm:
    That Machine will tell people just enough truth to get them to swallow a bigger lie or tyranny. It's the latter in the case of smoking. The Machine is more concerned about controlling people by getting them to realize the diseased effects of smoking, hence, the population accepts government controls and regulation regarding public smoking. This is a strategy to get the population to accept further controls on their behavior because it's "for their well being" or "public health". It's called incremental or creeping tyranny. It's conditioning. Understand, fool?

    I bet your VO2max is pathetic.
    Completely nailed it. Thank you. I had someone come in to buy smokes that was wearing a portable oxygen tank. So the Machine is getting people both broke (a pack is $12 here) and sicker.
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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 03:15:03 PM »
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  • Our kickboxing teacher, a former champion of France has a cigarette after every training session.

    At the Chartres pilgrimage, some would be smoking at the end of the daily 30 mile hike.

    The key is moderation and to ensure the habit doesn't own you. I don't smoke anymore but I find agressive anti smokers very annoying. It seems to be a hangover from puritanism that Catholics in protestant countries sometimes display.

    I live in a former Catholic country, and it's the same. People see smokers as the Devil himself.

    I think that moderation is possible with cigars and pipes, but I have yet to see a person who smokes cigarettes with moderation. The nicotine is too addictive, as I understand. With cigars and pipes you barely absorb any nicotine at all, that's why you don't get addicted to it. You get no "high".

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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 04:48:16 PM »
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  • If you only smoke once or twice a week, then it should be easy to hide it (if that's what you wish).

    I think that smoking from a pipe is a very different beast to cigarette smoking, but we can't know the ways in which we'll influence our children. No one here is qualified to tell you how to raise your children, but if you have misgivings then raise them to your priest and your spouse.


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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 05:20:49 PM »
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  • :facepalm:
    That Machine will tell people just enough truth to get them to swallow a bigger lie or tyranny. It's the latter in the case of smoking. The Machine is more concerned about controlling people by getting them to realize the diseased effects of smoking, hence, the population accepts government controls and regulation regarding public smoking. This is a strategy to get the population to accept further controls on their behavior because it's "for their well being" or "public health". It's called incremental or creeping tyranny. It's conditioning. Understand, fool?

    I bet your VO2max is pathetic.
    Ay caramba hermano… you write like is thesis for Vatican III.

    Is just tobacco. Not tyranny. My abuelo smoke pipe at 98 years—he die from wife, not cigar.

    You say “creeping tyranny”… but I see more creep than tyranny.

    And VO2max? I carry 40 liter water uphill barefoot. You breathe like fish on land.

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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 06:11:52 PM »
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  • Ay caramba hermano… you write like is thesis for Vatican III.

    Is just tobacco. Not tyranny. My abuelo smoke pipe at 98 years—he die from wife, not cigar.

    You say “creeping tyranny”… but I see more creep than tyranny.

    And VO2max? I carry 40 liter water uphill barefoot. You breathe like fish on land.


    And you talk like Indian (native american) stereotype.
    How!

    Or, perhaps it's like a Hollywood stereotype accent for an Asian sensei, like Mr. Miyagi.
    It's also very similar to that.

    Either way, you should be embarrassed and many people are chuckling at you.
    :laugh1:
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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 06:16:49 PM »
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  • Either way, you should be embarrassed and many people are chuckling at you.
    :laugh1:
    Likely "with you" rather than "at you". :clown:

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    Re: Do you smoke in front of your children?
    « Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 06:29:13 PM »
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  • And you talk like Indian (native american) stereotype.
    How!

    Or, perhaps it's like a Hollywood stereotype accent for an Asian sensei, like Mr. Miyagi.
    It's also very similar to that.

    Either way, you should be embarrassed and many people are chuckling at you.
    :laugh1:
    Embarrass? No hermano. I fight modernism with flip phone and tortilla in hand.

    Mr. Miyagi teach karate. I teach red light to NeoSSPX.

    You laugh… but still no one answer:

    Why priest go police? Why bishop silent?

    Maybe next time you type joke, you also type truth.