Author Topic: question for men only (Read 9994 times)

JMacQ · « **Reply #30 on:** November 04, 2012, 07:24:30 PM »

You wrote: "There is something called a Hy-gene Seminal Fluid Collection Kit that allows the semen to be collected during the marital act in a way that is not immoral."

I wrote: "The solution you are proposing is nothing but a condom, and therefore immoral. http://www.apexfertility.com/hygene1.htm "

You wrote: "They are perforated condoms, do not violate Catholic morality, and are acceptable to many traditional priests familiar with Catholic-friendly methods of infertility treatment. I am sure there are other brands available, this is the one that I am familiar with."

I wrote: "No, they are not. You are mistaken. "The handling of the condom is done only by the patient. A small scissor slice is made at the reservoir end of the condom. The patient then empties the contents through the system's funnel into the transport vial. The vial is sealed with a tight-fitting cap, and the funnel and condom are discarded." and even clearer http://www.aia-zavos.com/semen_collection.html "8. Holding reservoir end of condom over funnel, use scissors to cut a small slice in tip. Carefully squeeze all possible semen from condom (see diagram on Hygene™ box)."

You wrote: "Having actually used perforated condoms after seeking advice from a traditional priest, no I am NOT mistaken."

As clearly indicated in the instructions, the implement which you are recommending is a condom, perforated after use in order to collect the fluid. It is immoral. You were mistaken in writing that these are perforated condoms.

Stay away from this thread. No Catholic male here is interested in your input or in the kind of condoms your husband uses.

Tiffany · « **Reply #31 on:** November 04, 2012, 08:02:42 PM »

Quote from: JMacQ

You wrote: "There is something called a Hy-gene Seminal Fluid Collection Kit that allows the semen to be collected during the marital act in a way that is not immoral."

I wrote: "The solution you are proposing is nothing but a condom, and therefore immoral. http://www.apexfertility.com/hygene1.htm "

You wrote: "They are perforated condoms, do not violate Catholic morality, and are acceptable to many traditional priests familiar with Catholic-friendly methods of infertility treatment. I am sure there are other brands available, this is the one that I am familiar with."

I wrote: "No, they are not. You are mistaken. "The handling of the condom is done only by the patient. A small scissor slice is made at the reservoir end of the condom. The patient then empties the contents through the system's funnel into the transport vial. The vial is sealed with a tight-fitting cap, and the funnel and condom are discarded." and even clearer http://www.aia-zavos.com/semen_collection.html "8. Holding reservoir end of condom over funnel, use scissors to cut a small slice in tip. Carefully squeeze all possible semen from condom (see diagram on Hygene™ box)."

You wrote: "Having actually used perforated condoms after seeking advice from a traditional priest, no I am NOT mistaken."

As clearly indicated in the instructions, the implement which you are recommending is a condom, perforated after use in order to collect the fluid. It is immoral. You were mistaken in writing that these are perforated condoms.

Stay away from this thread. No Catholic male here is interested in your input or in the kind of condoms your husband uses.

JMacQ you are mixing things up.

JMacQ · « **Reply #32 on:** November 04, 2012, 08:39:13 PM »

Why does this sound so familiar?

Let me try it here, perhaps it will work:

"Yes, dear, whatever you say."

ESSE QUAM VIDERI · « **Reply #33 on:** November 04, 2012, 08:40:18 PM »

"Stay away from this thread. No Catholic male here is interested in your input"

Oh my, what a real man you are! And if she doesn't, are you gonna give her a backhander? I'd like to see you talk like that to my wife, who'd most likely knock you into the middle of next week.

Have some respect.

JMacQ · « **Reply #34 on:** November 04, 2012, 08:53:02 PM »

No need for nasty assumptions.

I sincerely believe that a Catholic woman should stay away from discussing such matters, particularly when she is mistaken. Mind you, I am not talking about the use of perforated preservatives, the morality of which I leave to priests to decide. I am talking about the fact that the lady is recommending a product which is NOT a perforated preservative, but a preservative to be used during intercourse (therefore preventing conception, therefore immoral) and AFTERWARDS cut with scissors in order to collect the fluid. When I pointed out this fact after a simple search for the product in question and I quoted the instructions provided with the kit, she changed the tune. I am not the one mixing things up.

Good night and God bless us all.