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Traditional Catholic Faith => Health and Nutrition => Topic started by: Viva Cristo Rey on July 15, 2023, 02:15:45 PM

Title: Be careful eating out
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on July 15, 2023, 02:15:45 PM
https://tinyurl.com/me97kn8c

'Your server has not washed her hands for the entire shift': Server shares the 'ugly truth' about restaurants…

(And they are handling cell phones full of germs). 
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: God and Land on July 15, 2023, 02:44:13 PM
That's why you should always order fajitas because there's always a pad between their hand and your plate.:laugh1:
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: Minnesota on July 15, 2023, 03:05:33 PM
Health inspector reports are public record in most counties. You can go online and read why they scored the way they did and judge accordingly.
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: Seraphina on July 16, 2023, 03:01:08 AM
Most restaurant illnesses come from tainted foods themselves, not from unwashed hands.  
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on July 16, 2023, 07:16:05 AM
There are plenty of people employed that mess with food on purpose too.  Even the high end restaurants can have filthy kitchens too. 

Many people today especially young people have poor hygiene.  Dirty long long fingernails that look like satanic claws.  They have to wear their lgbt+ buttons.  You don’t see many Christians wearing buttons promoting the faith. 

Much ecoli Food recall  is from people not washing their hands after going number 2.
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: Seraphina on July 16, 2023, 07:53:35 AM
There are plenty of people employed that mess with food on purpose too.  Even the high end restaurants can have filthy kitchens too. 

Many people today especially young people have poor hygiene.  Dirty long long fingernails that look like satanic claws.  They have to wear their lgbt+ buttons.  You don’t see many Christians wearing buttons promoting the faith.

Much ecoli Food recall  is from people not washing their hands after going number 2.
Restaurants are graded where I live, from A to F.  Anything lower than C is immediately closed down.
I wouldn’t eat in a place with C rating. Even B, I’d think twice.
As for waitresses as you describe, if I saw women of that description, I’d walk out, the nails, especially.  As for the kitchen staff, it’s state law they must wear gloves and hair coverings.  I think you meant C. difficile.  E. coli contaminates foods, not from #2.  Of course, neither is a joke.  
If you can grow and raise your own food and eat at home, that’s best—-a lot less expensive, too!  
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: josefamenendez on July 16, 2023, 08:22:01 AM
The quality of the food in restaurants is so poor since the lockdowns. It's like they can't afford to keep fresh food  and are using lower quality substitutes. Most everything is old and frozen. We are disappointed in most everyplace that we have gone to in the past two years. We eat at home and at least we know what we are eating.
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: God and Land on July 16, 2023, 09:54:18 AM
Much ecoli Food recall  is from people not washing their hands after going number 2.
I'd like to see the evidence to back up this claim. 

 I used to work for Cargill Meat Solutions which is the largest beef supplier to restaurants in the US.  Over half (52%) of e Coli outbreaks are foodborne, not oral-fecal as you suggest, with a whopping 43% being fast-food restaurants.  68% of the outbreaks at fast-food restaurants are linked to frozen beef patties, which is what Cargill produces.  Cargill is the supplier for Walmart and McDonalds (under the name Excel Meats).  I can tell you exactly how the e Coli gets into the meat--intestines of the beef are processed with the meat.  

When the patties are undercooked, which can happen from time to time, e Coli isn't killed.  That's why McDonalds uses steam trays, to kill any residual germs and keep the meat hot.  

Don't even get me started on ground turkey.  I wouldn't use it for anything but chili and I would cook it all day before I ate it.  
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: EWPJ on July 16, 2023, 12:00:26 PM
Former restaurant worker (casual dining establishment) here and I can tell you that no one follows the health code regulations to a T.  You're supposed to wash your hands after you handle anything raw or every 30 minutes, whatever comes first and no one does that.  There's no time!  If you've ever worked in a restaurant you'll know it's fast paced and you have to move move move go go go and there's no time to do all the things they want you to do.  

You're also supposed to wear gloves after freshly washed hands if you put anything that is direct-to-eat (cheddar cheese on a salad for instance) and then immediately discard the gloves afterwards and then go wash your hands again.  The regulations are insane and you would seriously be blowing through 100's of gloves per shift per person to maintain their standards and not to mention food would take longer to get out which effects volume and makes people angry at having to wait longer.

The health department comes by once or twice a year but they always warn you a day or two before they get there so then the management will get everything ready for them to put on a good show but everyone is pretty much "wink wink" and we'll do everything right when the health department is there but as soon as their backs are turned or they leave it's back to the same ol' same ol.'

The restaurant I worked out would always pass with flying colors (or close to it0.)  So even the restaurants that have good grades you can expect that they do not follow the regulations and that they just put on a show for the health department.        
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: AnthonyPadua on July 16, 2023, 09:57:45 PM
I don't want to ever go to a restaurant again. 
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: andy on July 16, 2023, 10:35:37 PM
it is still probably 100x better compared to how people handled food like 100 years ago ...
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: Nadir on July 16, 2023, 11:22:06 PM
it is still probably 100x better compared to how people handled food like 100 years ago ...
Yes, horrifying! Dairymen actually milked cows with their bare hands. The milkman delivered milk in a jug. People were dropping dead all the time. 
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: andy on July 16, 2023, 11:28:24 PM
Yes, horrifying! Dairymen actually milked cows with their bare hands. The milkman delivered milk in a jug. People were dropping dead all the time.
Maybe it was a good thing.
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: God and Land on July 17, 2023, 08:52:12 AM
You never hear about food poisoning from 5 star restaurants (at least I haven't).  Maybe upgrade your choice of establishment?

Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: SeanJohnson on July 17, 2023, 09:01:17 AM
I worked at a restaurant in high school, and recall some law/rule against reusing ketchup bottles.  The manager just instructed us to combine all the half-empty bottles at the end of the day, and to wash the caps.  Then in the fridge they went, pretending to be new bottles.
Title: Re: Be careful eating out
Post by: St Giles on July 17, 2023, 09:07:56 AM
I'd like to see the evidence to back up this claim.

 I used to work for Cargill Meat Solutions which is the largest beef supplier to restaurants in the US.  Over half (52%) of e Coli outbreaks are foodborne, not oral-fecal as you suggest, with a whopping 43% being fast-food restaurants.  68% of the outbreaks at fast-food restaurants are linked to frozen beef patties, which is what Cargill produces.  Cargill is the supplier for Walmart and McDonalds (under the name Excel Meats).  I can tell you exactly how the e Coli gets into the meat--intestines of the beef are processed with the meat. 

When the patties are undercooked, which can happen from time to time, e Coli isn't killed.  That's why McDonalds uses steam trays, to kill any residual germs and keep the meat hot. 

Don't even get me started on ground turkey.  I wouldn't use it for anything but chili and I would cook it all day before I ate it. 
Please start on ground turkey. I avoid it because it and other ground meats often bother me. If I want ground meet, I'd rather fresh grind it myself.