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Offline parentsfortruth

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Are vaccines safe?
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2011, 02:45:23 PM »
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  • The naysayers here, and the ones that trust their doctors, should really do their own investigating. Here's a couple of great places to start.

    http://healthfreedomusa.org

    http://www.generationrescue.org/

    Look at this: And we wonder why autism has gone up THOUSANDS OF PERCENT!



    My sister had two completely normal children before both were vaccinated, and following the vaccinations, they had terrible bowel problems and couldn't talk until they were 6!!!!

    If vaccines saved lives, why is Bill Gates wanting to use them for population control/reduction? I would think vaccinating people would make MORE of them live... not less....

    http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=A155D113455FAC882A3290536575C723

    Read this:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/031116_Dr_Andrew_Wakefield_British_Medical_Journal.html

    If this stuff doesn't convince you, I don't know what the heck will.
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    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

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    « Reply #31 on: August 14, 2011, 06:31:47 PM »
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  • None of my children were ever vaccinated except in one case; I crafted a religious exemption letter which passed the approval of my lawyer. I have used it for every conceivable purpose without a problem (and I have lived in two states, PA and NJ).

    I homeschool my children, but in PA you still have to give evidence of vaccination or a religious exemption. Regardless, I have never had a problem.

    Once, however, in NJ, my son fell and in the ER they wanted to give him a tetanus shot. I allowed it because that is one vaccine I do not feel is dangerous based on research I have done. Besides, if one is to be given at all, I think after is better than "just in case", since the child may never need it anyway.

    However, if there are any vaccines you do believe are safe, and you don't want to create issues with your pediatrician, get those vaccines in the ER since the pediatrician usually doesn't know what goes on there.

    My state does not allow philosophical exemptions, otherwise I wouldn't need to do that....I wish more states had philosophical exemptions!

    For more info on state laws, see http://www.909shot.com
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    « Reply #32 on: October 24, 2011, 12:36:11 AM »
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  • What about when your children are required to have them to attend a public school? My nephew just turned 5 yesterday.
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    « Reply #33 on: October 24, 2011, 09:47:57 AM »
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  • Quote from: Jessa
    What about when your children are required to have them to attend a public school? My nephew just turned 5 yesterday.


    Depends on where you live. All states have medical exemptions, most have religious and some have philosophical. As a Catholic you can use the religious exemption for vaccines derived from aborted fetal cell lines. The public school system will tell you that you have no choice but to vaccinate on schedule but fact of the matter is that in most states you do have a choice. It usually requires paperwork and jumping through hoops, sometimes yearly but a child can go to public school nine times out of ten even if they are not fully vaccinated. Now, private school is a different story.

    Type: 'your state' vaccine exemption

    into google and click on the link that goes to your state health department. That will give you the most accurate info and the forms necessary.

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    « Reply #34 on: October 24, 2011, 01:28:07 PM »
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  • Well here I know that they can't attend day care if they don't, which is the issiue I ran into. I am not sure what Private schools policy is, do they require all of them also?
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    « Reply #35 on: October 24, 2011, 03:35:10 PM »
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  • Day care...?

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    « Reply #36 on: October 24, 2011, 04:16:56 PM »
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  • Yes , most day cares here require shot records to prove your child has had them, they will not take your child with out them.
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    « Reply #37 on: October 24, 2011, 05:05:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: Jessa
    Well here I know that they can't attend day care if they don't, which is the issiue I ran into. I am not sure what Private schools policy is, do they require all of them also?


    Most private schools also require them and you have no recourse to opt out as attendence is a privilege not a right. Same with daycares, they are private institutions that can accept and deny attendence at will. You can't *make* them take your child.


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    « Reply #38 on: October 25, 2011, 12:16:44 PM »
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  • Correct!
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    « Reply #39 on: October 27, 2011, 08:08:59 PM »
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  • I haven't been posting here for awhile, ever since a certain person was allowed to use offensive language, yes, at my age I was scandalized.  No doubt because this is a Catholic forum.  Anyway, I do still come here and check my PM's, it just so happens one of the members here asked me through the messenger if I would copy and paste the PM she sent me.  She is not familiar with how to post here and feels she has something important for this thread to share;  Below is her note to all of you.  

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    Our granddaughter is in the hospital.  Diarrhea and vomiting and fever low 101 not too bad.  But she is 6 months old and had the 3rd shot Oct 12 and she was admitted Oct 24.  It is hard to convince our daughter and son-in-law to educate themselves before doing this.  The pediatrics are saying a stomach flu and I don't buy it.  We just had a family get together Oct 23 and everyone is healthy, no one shows illness.  Our granddaughter is not in day care. She stays at home with grandmas, when needed.  But anyone who wants to share their thoughts on the dangers of vaccines, and I would like to hear how long it takes from shot to reactions.  I can not recall myself, but I certainly pointed my fingers there and vowed I would warn and educate our children for their babies.  Our daughter is the youngest of 4.  She has seen her sisters have babies before her with so far no problems as she can see.  BUT no one should take chances and wait to see the results that could be even death!  Songbird


    Please pray for this child, and her family, we must pray for each other, always!

    I am sure you will all agree.  

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    « Reply #40 on: October 27, 2011, 09:14:34 PM »
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  • Prayers from me.  :pray:


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    « Reply #41 on: October 29, 2011, 08:48:56 AM »
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  • Received this PM from "Songbird", truly I don't know why she can't post herself, but she explained that she just can't, and ask I add her note to this thread.

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    Thank you Myrna. Add to this post. Our granddaughter had 2 hours of seizures! She is back in ICU. The doctor listened to my one sentence, "Thank you for not overlooking baby shots." The doctor looked at the parents and asked, who, what, when where and why! My daugther and son-in-law said , we will hold off her shots from now on! The readers should know, this 6 month old baby was never in day care, not around sickness. Was never sick, and the fever of 101 was down. She was doing very well yesterday and this morning there was talk of the baby going home. For the seizure being a sudden surprise, and for so long we were blessed to be in the hospital and for quick response to her needs. Believe me, all of this is not worth the shots! The baby is now getting an MRI which will be and hour and a half. We had so many tears and so many prayers and we thank you for them! Songbird

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    « Reply #42 on: October 30, 2011, 01:57:40 PM »
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    « Reply #43 on: October 30, 2011, 09:53:42 PM »
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  • Thank You for this post and thank you for the web sites.  I did go to the videos and I am happy to have read those issues with vaccines.  Our grand daughter of 6 months appears to be herself, and no complications, so far!  The way I see it, she is not out to the woods.  A nurse may say, "if you don't vaccinate, watch your child, BUT I would say just the opposite.  If you vaccinate your child, even if you watch your child for side effects, you can not suck out what went in and you certainly can not reverse the damage done.  Consider that, that what is done is done!  So, I thank Myrna for posting for me and I hope this post makes it!  songbird

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    « Reply #44 on: February 16, 2012, 11:25:31 PM »
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  • My own children aged now 2 and 1 years old were somewhat different to each other when it came to vaccinations.
    I can only speak for myself here and also what I have seen as a former childcare worker-
    our son was fully vaccinated for his first year. However, in this time he suffered severe conjutivitis after his 1st vaccination, his 2nd vaccination at 6 weeks cause conjunctivitis AGAIN and a minor- moderate flu symptoms- with his 4 month vaccination (the same vaccination as the 2nd vaccination-2 month vaccination) he ended up in hospital for a whole week hooked up to tubes fighting to survive with Bronchiolitis apparently the result of the vaccination but supposedly chances of this happening are low- though do happen. Since then has had asthma caused by the bronchiolitis and also got bronchiolits 6 more times by the end of his first year- he had a bad immune system also. We didnt take him to have anymore vaccinations after his 12 month shot and his immune system has picked up BIG TIME, he is a healthy happy boy and his asthma is now almost non-existant. Our 2nd child had her in hospital vaccination which made her EXTREMLY irritable and fussy- she would SCREAM almost 24/7 and she would rarely sleep unless she was with us- this caused some difficulty as you can imagine- we sought help and were told she was a high dependancy baby who will eventually grow out of it but babies like her usually can be un-consollable and its best to either sleep in her room with her or have her in our room with us because no amount of sleep training would solve the issue- apparently babies with such issue usually have to GROW out of it. She did by the age of about 4-5 months and was in her own cot in her own room sleeping through the night.
    Then by her 2 month vaccination (2nd vaccination) she had this and went from perfectly healthy to in hospital having mucas cleared from her airways so she could breath within 24 hours of her vaccination (the same one our son got bad flu like symptoms with and then bronchiolitis with the 4 month one) .
    So we didnt take her to have another vaccination.
    And you know what she has had only 2 vaccinations out of the several within the first year and she is the HEALTHIEST person in our house even our family (that includes our parents and siblings who are fully vaccinated- yet despite vaccination managed to catch things like whooping cough) she rarely gets anything and when she does she has it for 24-48 hours and its gone just like that. Her 12 month health check and my sons 2 year health check(both  NOT UP TO DATE with vaccinations and are NOT HAVING THEM) are in perfect health- developing perfectly in fact the are ABOVE average including my daughter (who ONLY had the 2 vaccinations)  who is also HUGELY above average in height and weight for her age- already close to the size of her brother who is also slightly above average in size and he is 13 months (over a year) older than her.
    We have also been exposed to things like whooping cough (by vaccinated people mind you) etc where the moment we found out about the exposure we got antibiotics straight away and then quarantined ourselves for the incubation and contagious periods but so far no dramas at all.
    So nothing bad for us so far from stopping vaccination if anything BIG improvements on all boards.
    On my experience as a former childcare worker with 5years experience in the industry I have NEVER worked in a centre that had a child that was not vaccinated or not up to date with vaccinations yet children at the centres still managed to get and spread these vaccination preventable diseases amongst other things despite good hygiene practices done by the centres and also proper exclusion periods in place.
    Good luck though

     

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