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« Reply #210 on: July 17, 2016, 03:52:37 PM »
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  • Here is what Dr Mercola, MD thinks about the Swine Flu Vaccine.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/01/swine-flu-shot-linked-to-killer-nerve-disease.aspx

    It's important to notice how the government operates.

    The government declared that anyone suing for Guillain-Barre Syndrome after Jan 1
    1985, could only receive $250,000.    

    I guess they didn't have enough money to pay for all the damage.  Afterall, fixing a
    person who was paralyzed from the waste down could get expensive.

    If you don't like Mercola, here are more details about how damaging the Flu Shot is:

    http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/guillain-barre-syndrome-is-1-side-effect-of-vaccine-injury-compensations-due-to-flu-shots/






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    « Reply #211 on: July 17, 2016, 03:57:35 PM »
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  • Quote from: qeddeq

    It is true that the Amish do undervaccinate. However, they suffer the same rate of illness as other undervaccination populations.

    So many amish do vaccinate, and when they do not, they get sick.

    If your premise is that preindustrial living gives one an immunity to illness, then you would have to believe that the history of civilization is one big lie.


    Your claim that "people who are not vaccinated get sick" is a very general statement.  In fact,
    it's so general that it must be considered a theory.  

    Why?  People who are vaccinated get sick also.  In fact the vaccinated get MORE sick.

    See this:

    http://www.vaclib.org/basic/unvaxhealth.htm

    And you still have to show that people who have Autism were not vaccinated.  
    Or show the percentage who have Autism who were not vaccinated.  

    I think you should go get a flu shot and prove to us that you are correct.
    Get an MMR shot also, get a DPT shot, get an HIB shot and about 10 others.  


     


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    « Reply #212 on: July 18, 2016, 11:07:23 AM »
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  • Quote from: qeddeq
    are you claiming that autism does not predate vaccinations? If vaccination is a necessary condition for autism, then no one before vaccination had autism. However, we know that autism existed before vax. Therefore, vax is not a necessary condition for autism.
    You dodged my brilliant point about preindustrial living and disease. Your logic leads one to conclude that no one got sick before the industrial revolution and the lifestyles it created. That is patently false, unless you want to say that scripture is lying. The OT and the NT mention leprosy, epilepsy and fever, among many other diseases.


    Before vaccinations existed what was the rate of "autism" that you are talking
    about?  

    1 in 10,000,000.  

    Now we have an EPIDEMIC of Autism and mental-illness, caused by vaccines.
    I have provided links to the proof of that.  Dr Russell Blaylock, MD has proved
    that.  Thompson, an employee of the CDC, said he lied in the report about
    vaccines do not cause Autism.  

    Yes, disease has always existed.  I got the measles and I got over it (no big deal).
    Now I have life-long immunity, unlike those who are vaccinated with MMR.  

    You said vaccines removed Smallpox from Earth.  That is a big hoax, and the lie
    of the medical system and vaccine manufacturers.   I provided some links to prove
    that is a lie.  

    I provided links the show that diseases were already declining in 1932 when mass
    immunization was started.  The medical system claims that the vaccines removed
    the diseases.  This is another big lie.   Do the research.  

    So the bottom line is you either:

    1) Get the measles and get over it

    or

    2) Get 45 vaccines and still get the measles (50-75% of the cases),
    risk getting Autism or an Autism-Spectrum Disorder (5-15%),
    risk getting Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (yes, the peak death date
    is 21 days after the vaccine), risk turning blue unable to breath and
    dieing (yes, really).  

    A lawyer told me about a 10-year-old boy who got vaccinated and died.
    The parents sued the vaccine manufacturer and lost the case.  The vaccine
    manufacturer said "we have put it in writing that the vaccines are not
    guaranteed".  And also one of the parents has to sign for each shot, taking
    responsibility for any damage.      

    We really do have an EPIDEMIC of Autism and mental illness and special
    education programs.   You have to live in a closet to be unaware of this.

    The mental hospitals are bursting at the seems.  The waiting list at
    Western State Hospital (806 beds) is about 34 days (before you can get in).  

    The staff is overworked.  They pump you full of psychiatric drugs, enough
    to make you hardly able to walk (in the case I am familiar with).  

    They release you and you are back in later a few months later.  It's called
    a revolving door.  You might want to dig up some LIES on this too in order
    to respond.  

    Here are some more links to show the people that you are a troll being
    paid by the Medical Mafia, bent on forcing vaccinations on the whole
    population.  I wonder if you are a dual citizen of the US and Israel, whose
    job is to destroy the children of the US.

    Vaccine Nation- Documentary


    Truth behind Vaccines- Documentary


    Silent Epidemic- Video


    Deadly Vaccines- Video


    Dr. Tenpenny on Vaccines


    Chasm of conspiricy Part 3 Mercury, Squalene, H1N1, Vaccines


    Forced Vaccinations-Whistleblower- Video


    Depopulation thru Vaccines



    Last but not least:

    Dr Sherry Tenpenny's website:
    http://drtenpenny.com/





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    « Reply #213 on: July 18, 2016, 04:10:39 PM »
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  • qeddeq has been banned.

    Not just because he is pro-vaccination (for there are many Traditional Catholics woefully ignorant about vaccines, and the danger thereof).

    The reason I banned him: he, along with a select group of Illuminati/serious bad guys has called for MANDATORY VACCINATION. I hear this from various villains like the heads of Monsanto, Bayer, people like Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, etc.

    But a Traditional Catholic uttering something fit for the Georgia Guidestones? Something that I thought only serious bad guys (Illuminati, Freemasons, Satan worshippers) were pushing for?

    Mandatory public school, mandatory vaccination, mandatory state religion, mandatory state raising of your children, etc. all go against the natural law, and the natural rights of parents as given by God.

    It is indisputable Catholic doctrine that parents have a right and a duty to raise their own children. That includes spiritual matters, as well as education and taking care of them physically. The State has no right to intervene.

    You only disagree with that if you are a Communist or a state-worshiping Fascist.

    Anyhow, I don't allow Communists on CathInfo, or willing dupes who spout their doctrine. So good riddance.

    Anyone who wishes to see children ripped from their homes, forceably indoctrinated, forcibly vaccinated, "superfluous" children forcibly aborted, forceably inducted into the military, old people forceably euthanized at age 60, or anyone who wants to see the world population reduced to 100 million -- you aren't welcome on CathInfo.

    We have a strict "no Illuminati" policy here.

    Anyhow, qeddeq was either an agent/plant, or just a seriously ignorant and deluded sheep. Either way, someone in that state is only a liability to a discussion forum (where we all seek the truth). What is the likelihood he would have the truth about anything, when his brain is that washed by propaganda? When his critical thinking skills are so lacking?

    Oh, and P.S. -- CathInfo has been conspiracy discussion friendly since the very beginning. That was the very reason I started CathInfo. So those who believe in the fake moon landing, the official gov't story on 9/11, etc. are TOLERATED on CathInfo, not the other way around!
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    Offline noOneImportant

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    « Reply #214 on: July 18, 2016, 07:02:28 PM »
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  • I can't for the life of me understand why people are so all-or-nothing on this issue. The first vaccines were created long before the so-called "medical mafia" could possibly have existed, so to say that every vaccine ever is part of a sinister plot to poison people so pharmaceutical companies can make more money treating them is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as saying that something like the Hep-B or Flu vaccine should be mandatory, or even recommendable.

    Is it so hard to find some kind of middle ground here?


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    « Reply #215 on: July 19, 2016, 10:25:54 AM »
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  • Forced vaccinations? Eww. I don't have much of an opinion on vaccinations yet as a 22 year old unmarried male with no children, but... I can't think of anyone who is for THAT.
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    « Reply #216 on: July 19, 2016, 11:13:03 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    ...something fit for the Georgia Guidestones...


    Truly!

    An Austrian whistleblower reported finding dozens of thousands of swine flu vaccines that were live unattenuated virus. The whistleblower was fired. Other whistleblowers found swine flu vaccines with squalene adjuvant a thousand times specifications. Batches were found in Canada and Arizona that were simply inert.

    Two CDC whistleblowers have repeatedly confessed that they had solid evidence that the MMR vaccine was associated with autism when it was given before 18 months of age.  They admitted to publishing otherwise.

    Vaccines have been contaminated with live oncogenic (cancer-causing) viruses, live HIV retrovirus, and Bill Gates "humanitarian" vaccine program was caught administering vaccines that secretly included an anti-pregnancy component (anti-HCG antibodies).

    The woman who developed the HPV vaccine admitted that the vaccine does not work as intended. The associated deaths and horrifying complications have been hidden.

    And, in the USA, many vaccines are derived from the cells of aborted babies.  Europe and Japan have alternative vaccines that are not derived from aborted babies, but those vaccines are not available in the US.

    Horrifying, satanic, anti-life.

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    « Reply #217 on: July 19, 2016, 11:14:02 AM »
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  • Quote from: JezusDeKoning
    Forced vaccinations? Eww. I don't have much of an opinion on vaccinations yet as a 22 year old unmarried male with no children, but... I can't think of anyone who is for THAT.


    http://drtenpenny.com/how-did-we-get-here-how-do-we-escape/

    It's happening in California and coming to your state in the future.
    Pretty scary.  Get a passport.



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    « Reply #218 on: July 19, 2016, 11:19:40 AM »
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  • Quote from: noOneImportant
    I can't for the life of me understand why people are so all-or-nothing on this issue. The first vaccines were created long before the so-called "medical mafia" could possibly have existed, so to say that every vaccine ever is part of a sinister plot to poison people so pharmaceutical companies can make more money treating them is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as saying that something like the Hep-B or Flu vaccine should be mandatory, or even recommendable.

    Is it so hard to find some kind of middle ground here?


    I wonder how many of those "first vaccines" are still used today?  How many of them are used purely, without mercury, etc.?  I'm not fundamentally against all vaccines, but I doubt that very many vaccines in use today are pure vaccines that were developed decades ago "before the so-called 'medical mafia' could possibly have existed."

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    « Reply #219 on: July 19, 2016, 11:21:27 AM »
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    qeddeq has been banned.


    Thank you, but watch out, he may come back with another username,
    if he doesn't have one already.

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    « Reply #220 on: July 19, 2016, 11:30:07 AM »
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  • Quote from: noOneImportant
    I can't for the life of me understand why people are so all-or-nothing on this issue. The first vaccines were created long before the so-called "medical mafia" could possibly have existed, so to say that every vaccine ever is part of a sinister plot to poison people so pharmaceutical companies can make more money treating them is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as saying that something like the Hep-B or Flu vaccine should be mandatory, or even recommendable.

    Is it so hard to find some kind of middle ground here?


    I really don't think you have been following this discussion or looking at any of the
    material I have mentioned so far.  

    There is no middle ground, because you cannot look at the liquid they are shooting
    into your blood and see the agents that cause Autism, tendency to get Cancer,
    tendency to get asthma, and other auto-immune diseases.  

    Even if the vaccines were free of all the auto-immune causing agents, there
    effectiveness has NEVER been proven.  What has been proven is that the
    vaccines give you the disease that they are said to prevent.  

    So, you can use the government database http://medalerts.org/ to check on
    the safety of a vaccine.   I would wait until the vaccine has been out for at
    least one year.  Then check the database for adverse reactions.  If there is
    none, then get yourself vaccinated.  

    However, don't force me to get vaccinated and don't force anyone else.



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    « Reply #221 on: July 19, 2016, 12:21:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    qeddeq has been banned.

    Not just because he is pro-vaccination (for there are many Traditional Catholics woefully ignorant about vaccines, and the danger thereof).

    The reason I banned him: he, along with a select group of Illuminati/serious bad guys has called for MANDATORY VACCINATION. I hear this from various villains like the heads of Monsanto, Bayer, people like Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, etc.

    But a Traditional Catholic uttering something fit for the Georgia Guidestones? Something that I thought only serious bad guys (Illuminati, Freemasons, Satan worshippers) were pushing for?

    Mandatory public school, mandatory vaccination, mandatory state religion, mandatory state raising of your children, etc. all go against the natural law, and the natural rights of parents as given by God.

    It is indisputable Catholic doctrine that parents have a right and a duty to raise their own children. That includes spiritual matters, as well as education and taking care of them physically. The State has no right to intervene.

    You only disagree with that if you are a Communist or a state-worshiping Fascist.

    Anyhow, I don't allow Communists on CathInfo, or willing dupes who spout their doctrine. So good riddance.

    Anyone who wishes to see children ripped from their homes, forceably indoctrinated, forcibly vaccinated, "superfluous" children forcibly aborted, forceably inducted into the military, old people forceably euthanized at age 60, or anyone who wants to see the world population reduced to 100 million -- you aren't welcome on CathInfo.

    We have a strict "no Illuminati" policy here.

    Anyhow, qeddeq was either an agent/plant, or just a seriously ignorant and deluded sheep. Either way, someone in that state is only a liability to a discussion forum (where we all seek the truth). What is the likelihood he would have the truth about anything, when his brain is that washed by propaganda? When his critical thinking skills are so lacking?

    Oh, and P.S. -- CathInfo has been conspiracy discussion friendly since the very beginning. That was the very reason I started CathInfo. So those who believe in the fake moon landing, the official gov't story on 9/11, etc. are TOLERATED on CathInfo, not the other way around!


    Oh, happy day.   :smile:

    Once again I agree with Matthew.    :rahrah:

    Things are looking up.   :wink: :cheers:

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    « Reply #222 on: July 19, 2016, 01:58:48 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    qeddeq has been banned.

    Not just because he is pro-vaccination (for there are many Traditional Catholics woefully ignorant about vaccines, and the danger thereof).

    The reason I banned him: he, along with a select group of Illuminati/serious bad guys has called for MANDATORY VACCINATION. I hear this from various villains like the heads of Monsanto, Bayer, people like Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, etc.

    But a Traditional Catholic uttering something fit for the Georgia Guidestones? Something that I thought only serious bad guys (Illuminati, Freemasons, Satan worshippers) were pushing for?

    Mandatory public school, mandatory vaccination, mandatory state religion, mandatory state raising of your children, etc. all go against the natural law, and the natural rights of parents as given by God.

    It is indisputable Catholic doctrine that parents have a right and a duty to raise their own children. That includes spiritual matters, as well as education and taking care of them physically. The State has no right to intervene.

    You only disagree with that if you are a Communist or a state-worshiping Fascist.

    Anyhow, I don't allow Communists on CathInfo, or willing dupes who spout their doctrine. So good riddance.

    Anyone who wishes to see children ripped from their homes, forceably indoctrinated, forcibly vaccinated, "superfluous" children forcibly aborted, forceably inducted into the military, old people forceably euthanized at age 60, or anyone who wants to see the world population reduced to 100 million -- you aren't welcome on CathInfo.

    We have a strict "no Illuminati" policy here.

    Anyhow, qeddeq was either an agent/plant, or just a seriously ignorant and deluded sheep. Either way, someone in that state is only a liability to a discussion forum (where we all seek the truth). What is the likelihood he would have the truth about anything, when his brain is that washed by propaganda? When his critical thinking skills are so lacking?

    Oh, and P.S. -- CathInfo has been conspiracy discussion friendly since the very beginning. That was the very reason I started CathInfo. So those who believe in the fake moon landing, the official gov't story on 9/11, etc. are TOLERATED on CathInfo, not the other way around!


    I couldn't agree with you more on the above issues.  :applause:
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    « Reply #223 on: July 21, 2016, 01:46:30 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    qeddeq has been banned.

    Not just because he is pro-vaccination (for there are many Traditional Catholics woefully ignorant about vaccines, and the danger thereof).

    The reason I banned him: he, along with a select group of Illuminati/serious bad guys has called for MANDATORY VACCINATION. I hear this from various villains like the heads of Monsanto, Bayer, people like Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, etc.

    But a Traditional Catholic uttering something fit for the Georgia Guidestones? Something that I thought only serious bad guys (Illuminati, Freemasons, Satan worshippers) were pushing for?

    Mandatory public school, mandatory vaccination, mandatory state religion, mandatory state raising of your children, etc. all go against the natural law, and the natural rights of parents as given by God.

    It is indisputable Catholic doctrine that parents have a right and a duty to raise their own children. That includes spiritual matters, as well as education and taking care of them physically. The State has no right to intervene.

    You only disagree with that if you are a Communist or a state-worshiping Fascist.

    Anyhow, I don't allow Communists on CathInfo, or willing dupes who spout their doctrine. So good riddance.

    Anyone who wishes to see children ripped from their homes, forceably indoctrinated, forcibly vaccinated, "superfluous" children forcibly aborted, forceably inducted into the military, old people forceably euthanized at age 60, or anyone who wants to see the world population reduced to 100 million -- you aren't welcome on CathInfo.

    We have a strict "no Illuminati" policy here.

    Anyhow, qeddeq was either an agent/plant, or just a seriously ignorant and deluded sheep. Either way, someone in that state is only a liability to a discussion forum (where we all seek the truth). What is the likelihood he would have the truth about anything, when his brain is that washed by propaganda? When his critical thinking skills are so lacking?

    Oh, and P.S. -- CathInfo has been conspiracy discussion friendly since the very beginning. That was the very reason I started CathInfo. So those who believe in the fake moon landing, the official gov't story on 9/11, etc. are TOLERATED on CathInfo, not the other way around!


    Praise the Lord!
    Lord have mercy.

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    « Reply #224 on: July 30, 2016, 10:18:48 PM »
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  • i dont understand how people can be for forced vaccination how would they feel if someone stuck a needle in their arm and they had no idea what the needle contained

     

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