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Another career idea for trads - make REAL honey!
« on: November 10, 2011, 02:26:18 PM »
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  • More than 75 percent of all 'honey' sold in grocery stores contains no honey at all
     Be(e) sure to check out the list of fake honey, which includes Busy Bee Organic Honey, Kroger Pure Clover Honey, and Sue Bee Clover Honey among a long list of others.

    I sell organic, unfiltered honey at my coffeehouse (and we use it at the shop, too) in sterile, recycled rum and vodka bottles, many with the alcohol labels still attached.  There is no label because it isn't a brand, it's just Steve's honey.   It is procured by my friend Steve, who also sells organic baby greens, a staple in my life.  I love that man!  Anyhow, Steve mentioned that he was getting nowhere in is attempt to get his honey certified organic.  It comes form an area with no commercial farming for at least 100 square miles, most likely more.   He said that all honey labeled organic in the US is contaminated with GMO crops and pollutants from air and water.  It's the dirty little secret of the organic honey industry in the US.  That should be a boon to Steve's Nicaraguan honey, fetchng a nice price on the open market, but the organic certification agencies will not touch honey right now because of the blowback to the producers.  The agencies refuse to test is honey.  That's pretty telling.

    I sell Steve's honey for half of what it costs in the US for FAKE honey!  

    From Natural News (a very interesting and informative website that I check out almost daily):

    (NaturalNews) Just because those cute little bear-shaped bottles at the grocery store say "honey" on them does not necessarily mean that they actually contain honey. A comprehensive investigation conducted byFood Safety News(FSN) has found that the vast majority of so-called honey products sold at grocery stores, big box stores, drug stores, and restaurants do not contain any pollen, which means they are not real honey.

    For the investigation, Vaughn Bryant, one of the nation's leading melissopalynologists, or experts in identifying pollen in honey, and director of the Palynology Research Laboratory at Texas A&M University, evaluated more than 60 products labeled as "honey" that had been purchased by FSN from ten states and the District of Columbia.

    Bryant found that 76 percent of "honey" samples purchased from major grocery store chains like Kroger and Safeway, and 77 percent of samples purchased from big box chains like Sam's Club and Wal-Mart, did not contain any pollen. Even worse were "honey" samples taken from drug stores like Walgreens and CVS, and fast food restaurants like McDonald's and KFC, 100 percent of which were found to contain not a trace of pollen.

    The full FSN report with a list of all the pollen-less "honey" brands can be accessed here:
    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/...

    So what is all this phony honey made of? It is difficult to say for sure, as pollen is the key to verifying that honey is real. According to FSN, much of this imposter honey is more likely being secretly imported from China, and may even be contaminated with antibiotic drugs and other foreign materials.
     

    Most conventional honey products have been illegally ultra-filtered to hide their true nature

    According to FSN, the lack of pollen in most conventional "honey" products is due to these products having been ultra-filtered. This means that they have been intensely heated, forced through extremely tiny filters, and potentially even watered down or adulterated in some way prior to hitting store shelves.

    The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) holds the position that any so-called honey products that have been ultra-filtered are not actually honey. But the agency refuses to do anything to stop this influx of illegitimate "honey" from flooding the North American market. It also continues to stonewall all petitions to establish a national regulatory standard for verifying the integrity of honey.


    Ultra-filtering eliminates and destroys all medicinal properties of honey
    Assuming that there is any real honey at all in the phony honey products tested by FSN, the removal of pollen and other delicate materials via ultra-filtering renders them medicinally dead. Raw honey is a health-promoting food that can help alleviate stomach problems, anemia, allergies, and other health conditions. Ultra-filtered honey is nothing more than a health-destroying processed sugar in the same vein as white table sugar or high fructose corn syrup.

    The good news is that all of the honey products FSN tested from farmers markets, food cooperatives, and "natural" stores like Trader Joe's and Whole Foods, were found to contain pollen and a full array of antioxidants and other nutrients. Local beekeepers are another great source of obtaining raw, unprocessed, real honey.

    Be sure to read the entire FSN report at:
    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/...

    Learn more:http://www.naturalnews.com/034102_honey_consumer_alert.html#ixzz1dF3l3CTp
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    « Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 02:33:10 PM »
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  • Yeah I've long wanted to get into it.  I think next spring I'll order the hives, if I have the money.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 03:01:01 PM »
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  • AAAAAAAUUUGGGHHHHH! I'M GOING TO START HONEY MAKING THIS SPRING! (or the bees on my property will, at least lol) Perfect timing for this thread!

    I'm going to build a Kenyan Bee Hive! Have you heard of this? It seems like the easiest for the amateur bee keeper! I used to be a bee 'remover' in college (I'd take hives out of walls and roofs of people's homes). But this is an excellent idea. Please look into the Kenyan Bee hive, its really a sharp, simple idea.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 11, 2011, 01:09:28 PM »
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  • The honey industry is in a deadly decline because of the Colony Collapse Disorder (which is really due to conventional practices of bee-keepers and farmers alike). So much so that we are importing honey (or "honey") from China because we can't keep up with the demand.

    If you can produce honey in good quantity and sell it somehow (even if it's just by word of mouth) don't be afraid to charge a premium for it. It's worth it and you know it.

    GO FOR IT GUY'S!
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


    TEJANO AND PROUD!

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    « Reply #4 on: November 11, 2011, 01:33:48 PM »
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  • "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


    TEJANO AND PROUD!


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    « Reply #5 on: November 11, 2011, 01:36:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    AAAAAAAUUUGGGHHHHH! I'M GOING TO START HONEY MAKING THIS SPRING! (or the bees on my property will, at least lol) Perfect timing for this thread!

    I'm going to build a Kenyan Bee Hive! Have you heard of this? It seems like the easiest for the amateur bee keeper! I used to be a bee 'remover' in college (I'd take hives out of walls and roofs of people's homes). But this is an excellent idea. Please look into the Kenyan Bee hive, its really a sharp, simple idea.


    Oh NO!  You'll Africanize them!   :roll-laugh2:

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    « Reply #6 on: November 11, 2011, 01:37:51 PM »
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  • Has anyone heard that eating honey with tou-fu is deadly?



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    « Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 01:42:31 PM »
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    Has anyone heard that eating honey with tou-fu is deadly?


     :tv-disturbed: No. Do tell!
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

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    TEJANO AND PROUD!


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    « Reply #8 on: November 11, 2011, 02:52:17 PM »
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    I sell Steve's honey for half of what it costs in the US for FAKE honey!  



    Thank you for posting this article, Matthew.  How can I buy Steve's honey?
    Mariae Nunquam Servus Peribit

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    « Reply #9 on: November 11, 2011, 03:29:59 PM »
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    Has anyone heard that eating honey with tou-fu is deadly?


     :tv-disturbed: No. Do tell!


    In light of the recent thread making fun of Chinese beliefs, I feel a bit embarassed to post this but:

    http://www.xiaoaxiao.com/seven-deadly-wrong-with-the-health-food-reproduced-netease-won-taiwan-blog

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    a lot of food, under normal circuмstances are nutritious food, but in a different mix, it is very likely to become wrapped in “healthy” while the poisonous food! in unknowingly, you are likely to These appear to have been eating “healthy” food.

    one, tofu and honey, brown sugar, milk and other food can cause food poisoning with


    Tofu is a traditional Chinese cuisine, with the lower blood pressure, blood lipid effects. However, the process of using tofu, if not more attention, is likely to become a “fatal food”!

    tofu if you used to think of any food to eat with no problem, then you are wrong. Tofu with honey, brown sugar, milk, eat together will cause food poisoning. In particular, many people like soup with tofu and spinach, that would be more nutritious and healthier, in fact not, because the tofu with spinach to eat may cause stones. Tofu contains magnesium chloride, calcium sulfate, two substances, and the oxalic acid in spinach, will produce along with magnesium and calcium oxalate oxalic acid. These are two white precipitate, which not only affects the human body to absorb calcium, but also easy to Drugs lead to end the stone disease. Similarly, the tofu can not be with bamboo shoots, wild rice, chestnuts equivalent to eating.



    A few years ago in the Chinese and Vietnamese communities there was a scare that if you ate anything that had soy mixed with honey you could die. I'm not sure if it's true or not. But I have a jar of honey and someone wrote in big letters on the lid that "DO NOT EAT WITH HONEY".

    I searched the net a little bit, but there is no information on this in English - only Vietnamese. The main thing seemed to be avoiding tofu w/ honey and tofu w/ bamboo shoots (but I don't think most Americans even eat this!!!).



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    « Reply #10 on: November 11, 2011, 08:48:55 PM »
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  • @ Vladimir

    Is it correct to assume that you have a devotion to Truong Buu Diep ?


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  • Apparently the honey fraud also made the Huff Post.

    As you'd expect where money is to be made, it is not just a honey fraud. There are some other food reports at:

    http://www.cornucopia.org/

    I was quite steamed to discover the high penetration of GMO grains in some of the Whole Foods 365 label.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 10:03:10 PM »
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    @ Vladimir

    Is it correct to assume that you have a devotion to Truong Buu Diep ?


    Not as much as I should!

    Fr. Truong Buu Diep was a Catholic priest martyred by Communists a few decades before V2.



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    « Reply #13 on: November 12, 2011, 12:05:43 PM »
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    Has anyone heard that eating honey with tou-fu is deadly?


     :tv-disturbed: No. Do tell!


    In light of the recent thread making fun of Chinese beliefs, I feel a bit embarassed to post this but:

    http://www.xiaoaxiao.com/seven-deadly-wrong-with-the-health-food-reproduced-netease-won-taiwan-blog

    Quote
    a lot of food, under normal circuмstances are nutritious food, but in a different mix, it is very likely to become wrapped in “healthy” while the poisonous food! in unknowingly, you are likely to These appear to have been eating “healthy” food.

    one, tofu and honey, brown sugar, milk and other food can cause food poisoning with


    Tofu is a traditional Chinese cuisine, with the lower blood pressure, blood lipid effects. However, the process of using tofu, if not more attention, is likely to become a “fatal food”!

    tofu if you used to think of any food to eat with no problem, then you are wrong. Tofu with honey, brown sugar, milk, eat together will cause food poisoning. In particular, many people like soup with tofu and spinach, that would be more nutritious and healthier, in fact not, because the tofu with spinach to eat may cause stones. Tofu contains magnesium chloride, calcium sulfate, two substances, and the oxalic acid in spinach, will produce along with magnesium and calcium oxalate oxalic acid. These are two white precipitate, which not only affects the human body to absorb calcium, but also easy to Drugs lead to end the stone disease. Similarly, the tofu can not be with bamboo shoots, wild rice, chestnuts equivalent to eating.



    A few years ago in the Chinese and Vietnamese communities there was a scare that if you ate anything that had soy mixed with honey you could die. I'm not sure if it's true or not. But I have a jar of honey and someone wrote in big letters on the lid that "DO NOT EAT WITH HONEY".

    I searched the net a little bit, but there is no information on this in English - only Vietnamese. The main thing seemed to be avoiding tofu w/ honey and tofu w/ bamboo shoots (but I don't think most Americans even eat this!!!).


    Vlad, where do Vietnamese usually get their honey from? If it's the imported stuff it could just be toxins from pesticides (which seems to be a bigger problem in China than here).

    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


    TEJANO AND PROUD!

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    « Reply #14 on: November 12, 2011, 01:59:20 PM »
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  • If you guys want to make a living with honey bees your going to need at least 100 hives at a startup cost of around $200 a hive.  Check out the website beesource.com there are some really down to earth beekeepers around the country that will tell you everything you'll need to know.