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Title: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on October 15, 2017, 06:18:39 PM
Source: Michael Snyder, Guest Post (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/americans-have-never-been-more-overweight-then-they-are-now-new-survey-finds-40-of-u-s-adults-are-obese)

 
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Americans have never needed to lose weight more than they do right now.  According to brand new numbers that were just released by the National Center For Health Statistics, nearly 40 percent of all U.S. adults are now officially obese.  That is an all-time record.  And as you will see below, more than 70 percent of us are officially overweight.  Of course most of the population does not even understand what is being done to them.  The elite that own our major food corporations know that eating heavily processed foods is a highway to heart disease, cancer, diabetes and other deadly diseases, but they keep pushing those foods on us anyway.  The average American diet is extremely self-destructive, and it is time for a change.
 
If we do not change, our “obesity epidemic” will continue to grow even worse.  The following comes from CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/13/health/adult-obesity-increase-study/index.html)…
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The United States will not be escaping the obesity epidemic crisis anytime soon: Nearly 40% of adults and 19% of youth are obese, the highest rate the country has ever seen in all adults, according to research released Friday by the National Center for Health Statistics.
Since 1999, there has been a staggering rise in the prevalence of obesity, particularly in adults, without any “signs of it slowing down,” according to the study’s lead researcher, Dr. Craig Hales, medical epidemiologist at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
1999 was not that long ago.
And of course people were definitely talking about an “obesity epidemic” back then, but now it has gotten much, much worse.  In fact, researchers say that adult obesity and youth obesity have both risen by at least 30 percent (http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/13/health/adult-obesity-increase-study/index.html) since that time…
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What is “very striking” about this information is that there has been a 30% increase in adult obesity and 33% increase in youth obesity from 1999-2000 data to 2015-16, despite government-focused efforts to address the issue, according to Michael W. Long, assistant professor at the Milken Institute of School Public Health at George Washington University.
So how do you know if you are obese?
It is not as simple as just looking in the mirror.  According to health authorities, if you have a body mass index over 30 you are obese, and a recent WHO report discovered that childhood obesity has risen “more than tenfold over the past four decades” (https://www.today.com/health/america-s-obesity-epidemic-reaches-record-high-especially-kids-t117478)
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Obesity is medically defined as having a body-mass index of more than 30. The findings on obese kids in the U.S. comes on top of this week’s աօʀʟd ɦɛaʟtɦ օʀɢaռiʐatɨօռ report that childhood obesity is soaring around the world, increasing more than tenfold over the past four decades.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out why this is happening.  As the world economy has become globalized, the major food manufacturers are getting their garbage into the hands of more and more people.  Today, billions of people all over the planet are eating nutritionally-empty foods that are packed with all sorts of ingredients that humans simply should not be eating.
We are literally digging our own graves with our forks and our spoons.  According to this brand new report from the National Center For Health Statistics, at this point more than 70 percent of us “are either overweight or obese” (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/america-s-obesity-epidemic-reaches-record-high-new-report-says-n810231)…
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Overall, 70.7 percent of Americans are either overweight or obese, meaning that an unhealthy weight has become the norm, with normal weight Americans — a BMI of less than 25 — now in the minority.
That means that less than 30 percent of the population is at a healthy weight right now.
So what is the solution?
Going “on a diet” is not the answer.  Any short-term changes that you make are ultimately going to be futile if you don’t make long-term changes to your eating patterns.
If you really would like to have a healthier future, some major changes will be necessary.  Here are just a few tips to help get you started…
-Get as much sugar and high fructose corn syrup out of your diet as possible.  A great place to start is by getting rid of sodas and other sugary drinks.  My wife and I will have a soda when we go out to eat as a treat, but we don’t have any in our refrigerator at home.
-Try to start eliminating heavily processed foods from your diet.  This can be very difficult to do, because most of us have become quite accustomed to eating what the large food manufacturers offer us.
-Start shopping in the organic section of your local supermarket if you can afford to do so.  Organic food manufacturers often offer similar versions of what the large food manufacturers make, but the ingredients are far superior.
-Incorporate as much fresh produce into your diet as possible.  As humans, we are supposed to be eating a plant-based diet, but most of us have gotten very far away from that ideal.
-Make exercise a regular part of your daily life.  A sedentary lifestyle kills, and those that live active lifestyles often find that they can stay active well into their golden years.
If we don’t change our ways, the cost of treating obesity-related illnesses is going to threaten to overwhelm our healthcare system.  It is being reported that our obesity epidemic is already costing us 190 billion dollars a year (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/america-s-obesity-epidemic-reaches-record-high-new-report-says-n810231)…
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The consequences of the obesity epidemic are devastating: High blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease and stroke are not only killing millions of Americans annually — the obesity epidemic is also a humongous burden on the American health care system, making up $190 billion a year in weight-related medical bills.
As long as we keep eating what they offer us, the major food manufacturers are going to keep doing what they have always done.
So it is up to us to make the changes that are necessary, and this is a battle that we simply cannot afford to lose.
 
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I believe that 40% are on the low-side. The true obesity statistics are must higher.  Just watch the people coming
in and out of Walmart. 
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: TKGS on October 15, 2017, 06:39:21 PM
I was watching a movie from 1933, The Thin Man the other day.  It is a detective-comedy.  When the police discover a decomposed dead body they are trying to develop a description based on the clothes found in the makeshift grave.  They decide that the victim was probably about 5'10" and 250 lbs.  Then the coroner finds a cane in the grave and hands it off to the detective who remarks that the victim probably had a limp.  The other detective notes that he would carrying all that weight around.

Today, we don't really need a study to determine that obesity is ordinary.  Frankly, I question these results.  I would expect that the percentage of U.S. adults that are obese would be closer to the 55-65% range.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Geremia on October 15, 2017, 06:39:58 PM
And we're living through a recession‽
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Maria Regina on October 15, 2017, 07:51:00 PM
Real certified organic food is not cheap.

Breakfast and snack food loaded with GMO high fructose sugar, processed GMO white flour with bromide, and MSG are much cheaper. These foods cause obesity and diabetes. Often it is handed out free.

My husband and I gave up eating grain products such as wheat, rye, corn, and oatmeal. We also do not eat any sugar, dried fruits, MSG, or processed snack foods. Within one and a half years, each of us have lost more than 30 pounds, and we both are maintaining a healthy weight.

I helped out at a food pantry just once. It was so depressing to see all the excess cakes and artificially colored cookies being handed out to the poor. And they loved that junk food. The person in charge kept saying, "Beggars can't be choosy." I would not give those cakes and cookies to my dogs.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Ascetik on October 18, 2017, 07:40:44 AM

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We also do not eat any sugar

I mean I can understand if you were on the Keto diet and trying to lose weight, but never? That seems extreme to me. All things in moderation. It is more virtuous to eat those things in moderation than it is to give them up entirely, if that works for you, then ok, but I would hate to be at a party at your house, no offense.

Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: josefamenendez on October 18, 2017, 09:10:38 AM
Processed Sugar is poison for your body. Atherosclerosis, Diabetes., gut microbe imbalances, yeast proliferation, feeding of cancerous tumors, you name it. Just like anything else, if you eliminate it, eventually you don't miss it. Your taste changes. ( for the better)
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Ascetik on October 18, 2017, 09:27:22 AM
Ok, but a lot of the people who cut out sugar basically cut out sugar completely, they don't even eat fruit, which I think is a bit extreme.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Last Tradhican on October 18, 2017, 09:28:42 AM
Processed Sugar is poison for your body. Atherosclerosis, Diabetes., gut microbe imbalances, yeast proliferation, feeding of cancerous tumors, you name it. Just like anything else, if you eliminate it, eventually you don't miss it. Your taste changes. ( for the better)
High Fructose corn syrup and all the sugar substitutes are worse than plain old white sugar.

The problem today is that one has to be educated to know what to eat, and it requires work to have good food. One can no longer just trust that what you buy at a store is good for you.

Very few people bother.

Where I live, it is rare to find a woman that is not overweight, a large percentage in the 200lb and up club.

Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: josefamenendez on October 18, 2017, 09:34:13 AM
Yes- the only thing worse than sugar itself are the chemical substitute "sweeteners" and HFCS. HFCS is also processed and winds up with a significant lead content- I don't know how that happens but it's true. So we are stupid and fat.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: josefamenendez on October 18, 2017, 09:38:58 AM
Beet sugar is also almost 100% GMO. Most sugar is from sugar beets
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Last Tradhican on October 18, 2017, 09:42:26 AM
Most sugar is from sugar beets
Maybe in Europe, but not in the USA and Africa, South America, SE Asia.....
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Meg on October 18, 2017, 10:47:56 AM

There are so many good comments on this thread, but I'd just like to add that Americans don't get a lot of exercise, in addition to consuming too much sugar. 

When I traveled to Scotland in the year 2002, I was surprised to see that there weren't so many overweight people there, even though they have a terrible diet (number one for sugar consumption in Europe, I think). I think that they do get a lot of exercise, compared to Americans. They don't depend on cars for everything they do when they leave the house. That might be part of why they aren't so obese there, as Americans are here. 
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Ascetik on October 18, 2017, 10:59:58 AM
Yes, I think that's true. I played a lot of rec sports in college and ate exactly the same as I had before then and lost 20lbs just playing pickup soccer 4 or 5 times a week.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: josefamenendez on October 18, 2017, 11:29:44 AM
http://greenopedia.com/white-sugar/

This is what I always thought to be true, but I guess you can find anything if you look hard enough
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Maria Regina on October 18, 2017, 01:17:15 PM
Ok, but a lot of the people who cut out sugar basically cut out sugar completely, they don't even eat fruit, which I think is a bit extreme.

When people who have cancer are advised not to eat any types of sugar, alcoholic sugars, artificial sugars, stevia, or even dried fruits, such as raisins, it is to stop feeding the neoplasms, which thrive on sugars, especially the fructose form.
For some who are deathly ill with stage 4 cancers, they can only eat veggies (no meats) in juice format or in soups.
The only fruits they might be able to eat might be avocados or coconut "meat," both of which are rich in fats needed for energy.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Irish_Catholic on October 18, 2017, 01:20:33 PM
I have lived in Ireland all my life, but my Mother's family are from Wisconsin.

Forgetting for a moment about the differences in food stuffs and preparation methods, the one big thing that always strikes me when I visit my US family is the total reliance on their car for everything. Here, if I want to go to the shop up the road, I walk there. Kids walk to school. We walk to church. And 'going for a walk' is something people do for fun - it is not unusual.

When my cousin stayed with me for a summer a few years ago, the first time I told her that I was going for a walk, she really didn't understand why I was doing it! She kept asking me where I was going, and what was I going to do when I got there. The concept of going out, walking round the town and local countryside and then coming home again, was totally alien to her. But, by the end of the summer she was a convert and was 'going for a walk' every morning.

So, Americans, you need to get out of you cars more, and walk places!
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Student of Qi on October 18, 2017, 02:16:06 PM
I have lived in Ireland all my life, but my Mother's family are from Wisconsin.

Forgetting for a moment about the differences in food stuffs and preparation methods, the one big thing that always strikes me when I visit my US family is the total reliance on their car for everything. Here, if I want to go to the shop up the road, I walk there. Kids walk to school. We walk to church. And 'going for a walk' is something people do for fun - it is not unusual.

When my cousin stayed with me for a summer a few years ago, the first time I told her that I was going for a walk, she really didn't understand why I was doing it! She kept asking me where I was going, and what was I going to do when I got there. The concept of going out, walking round the town and local countryside and then coming home again, was totally alien to her. But, by the end of the summer she was a convert and was 'going for a walk' every morning.

So, Americans, you need to get out of you cars more, and walk places!
In rural America (and a few urbanites included) some of us actually do enjoy taking walks. Sometimes I go out at night and say my rosary, and some moonlit nights walk all the way down the road. However, taking a walk can certainly be dangerous here, because you could get shot! Seriously... My little sister almost got shot just walking the dogs on the fence line. Thankfully, the old foggey didn't pull the trigger 'cause he knew it's hard to tell which side of the barbedwire one is on from a distance.

The "risk" goes up during Deer Hunting Season.

It's probably safer to take a walk in Irland then America.  ::)
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Maria Regina on October 18, 2017, 02:33:07 PM
In rural America (and a few urbanites included) some of us actually do enjoy taking walks. Sometimes I go out at night and say my rosary, and some moonlit nights walk all the way down the road. However, taking a walk can certainly be dangerous here, because you could get shot! Seriously... My little sister almost got shot just walking the dogs on the fence line. Thankfully, the old foggey didn't pull the trigger 'cause he knew it's hard to tell which side of the barbedwire one is on from a distance.

The "risk" goes up during Deer Hunting Season.

It's probably safer to take a walk in Irland then America.  ::)

Here in Los Angeles, it is dangerous to walk outside.

There are killer bees and bears, cougars, coyotes, and cars with impaired drivers, and the drug epidemic is increasing thanks to the FDA and Big Pharma.

Most drivers are now impaired with recreational drugs, alcohol, psychoactive drugs, vallium, etc. Even some of our congressmen and senators in the USA are on Alzheimer's and Parkinson's drugs. How can they be safe drivers?
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Ascetik on October 18, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
Yeah my sister lived in LA for 2 years, when she came back she had that annoying valley girl accent so I had to basically tell her "You sound like a dumb valley girl" to get her to realize she had been effected by that environment.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Maria Regina on October 18, 2017, 02:46:11 PM
Yeah my sister lived in LA for 2 years, when she came back she had that annoying valley girl accent so I had to basically tell her "You sound like a dumb valley girl" to get her to realize she had been effected by that environment.

This kind of valley girl talk?

Basically like I told you, like it is very difficult to live in Los Angeles, basically like you do not like want to walk in the smoggy air and basically like breathe the valley smoke from the fires.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Ascetik on October 18, 2017, 03:39:31 PM
Haha pretty much, and the elongated vowuaaaaaaalsuh

It was funny too when I said it because she made this slight head twitch thing like she snapped out of it. A few weeks later she was talking like her normal southern belle self again, which was nice to hear.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Nadir on October 18, 2017, 04:11:27 PM
Haha pretty much, and the elongated vowuaaaaaaalsuh

It was funny too when I said it because she made this slight head twitch thing like she snapped out of it. A few weeks later she was talking like her normal southern belle self again, which was nice to hear.
I was asking myself so HERE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81IZDhXeJBk
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Nadir on October 18, 2017, 05:13:45 PM
There are so many good comments on this thread, but I'd just like to add that Americans don't get a lot of exercise, in addition to consuming too much sugar.

When I traveled to Scotland in the year 2002, I was surprised to see that there weren't so many overweight people there, even though they have a terrible diet (number one for sugar consumption in Europe, I think). I think that they do get a lot of exercise, compared to Americans. They don't depend on cars for everything they do when they leave the house. That might be part of why they aren't so obese there, as Americans are here.
That's an important point. 
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We used to walk everywhere when we were kids - we had no car until I was about 15. Anywhere too far to walk we took the tram and our Grandfather would give us a lift home. Obesity hardly existed. I remember one obese woman whom we used to call Mad Maisie. I clearly remember my 3 year old sister whistling a taxi. How different today.
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The statistics here:
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/4364.0.55.001~2014-15~Main%20Features~Overweight%20and%20obesity~22
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Interesting that rural are more obese than city people!
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Maria Regina on October 18, 2017, 05:22:28 PM
Nadir,

Are rural areas hotter with more dangerous wild dogs, large cats, and more venomous insects, spiders, scorpions, centipedes, and snakes? Are kangaroos dangerous too? Yes, I am referring to that kangaroo fight which took place on a neighborhood street.

That would make a huge difference. I saw some cities in Australia that are built underground to deal with the heat. There was even a church or two in one underground city.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Nadir on October 18, 2017, 06:07:57 PM
The inland, of course, is hotter in the summer and colder in the winter than the cities, which are coastal. 



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wild dogs, large cats, and more venomous insects, spiders, scorpions, centipedes, and snakes? Are kangaroos dangerous too? Yes, I am referring to that kangaroo fight which took place on a neighborhood street.
Dingoes stay away; there are no large cats; insects, spiders, scorpions, centipedes, and snakes - we had all those when we lived in a remote area and never gave them much thought. The kids ran free. 

Kangaroos are not dangerous, except to your dog if he pesters them - he could well get disemboweled. But that was no neighbourhood street. I'd guess that would be a place where your next neighbour would be miles distant.

Those underground dwellings and churches are in extremely remote desert areas where there is opal mining.
https://www.cooberpedy.sa.gov.au/page.aspx?u=353#prettyPhoto[1937]/3/
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Nadir on October 18, 2017, 06:52:55 PM
When I traveled to Scotland in the year 2002, I was surprised to see that there weren't so many overweight people there, even though they have a terrible diet (number one for sugar consumption in Europe, I think). I think that they do get a lot of exercise, compared to Americans. They don't depend on cars for everything they do when they leave the house. That might be part of why they aren't so obese there, as Americans are here.
Why do you say "a terrible diet", Meg? Is your remark based on sugar consumption or is there another reason?
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Maria Regina on October 18, 2017, 07:30:09 PM
Why do you say "a terrible diet", Meg? Is your remark based on sugar consumption or is there another reason?

Could it be those sugary butter biscuits for which the Scots are famous? Those sumptuous ones found in large tins?

Yes, those biscuits are delicious with tea, but not nutritious as the flour is highly refined, most likely GMO and sprayed with glyphosates, the butter is cooked with the sugar turning it into a carcinogenic substance called acrylamide, and the sugar is most likely GMO and sprayed with glyphosates. Whatever the results, those biscuits causes me to have a painful gallbladder and gain weight so I avoid them like the plague.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide

Discovery of acrylamide in foods
Acrylamide was discovered in foods in April 2002 by Eritrean (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eritrea) scientist Eden Tareke in Sweden when she found the chemical in starchy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starch) foods, such as potato chips (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_chip) (potato crisps), French fries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_fried_potatoes) (chips), and bread that had been heated higher than 120 °C (248 °F) (production of acrylamide in the heating process was shown to be temperature-dependent).[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide#cite_note-tareke-18) It was not found in food that had been boiled[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide#cite_note-tareke-18)[19] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide#cite_note-19) or in foods that were not heated.[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide#cite_note-tareke-18)

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Nadir on October 19, 2017, 12:30:37 AM
Maria Regina, Aren't most cakes and biscuits cooked with butter and sugar? This is not specific to the Scots and they can't make up the diet of the Scots.

So what is this "terrible diet"? haggis and black pudding? porridge?
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Meg on October 19, 2017, 09:32:46 AM
Why do you say "a terrible diet", Meg? Is your remark based on sugar consumption or is there another reason?

"Terrible diet" based on having visited there twice, and the jokes I've heard over the years about it. The only place I could buy something healthy to eat was at the Starbucks in different Scottish cities. Also, I used to volunteer at the local Scottish Highland games (until I realized that the group who ran the games were freemasons).

To my knowledge, few Scots eat Haggis. It's very difficult to make. Remember, Scotland is the home of deep-fried snickers bars, pizza, deep fried you-name-it. High fat, little in the way of fresh vegetables and salads when I visited there. That's in addition to the high sugar consumption. But at least they exercise. 

Hey, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe a Scottish forum member would give an opinion.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: JezusDeKoning on October 19, 2017, 09:42:03 AM
"Terrible diet" based on having visited there twice, and the jokes I've heard over the years about it. The only place I could buy something healthy to eat was at the Starbucks in different Scottish cities. Also, I used to volunteer at the local Scottish Highland games (until I realized that the group who ran the games were freemasons).

To my knowledge, few Scots eat Haggis. It's very difficult to make. Remember, Scotland is the home of deep-fried snickers bars, pizza, deep fried you-name-it. High fat, little in the way of fresh vegetables and salads when I visited there. That's in addition to the high sugar consumption. But at least they exercise.

Hey, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe a Scottish forum member would give an opinion.
Irish too. Doesn't help that to the Irish, alcohol is basically water - so lots of empty calories and sugar.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Meg on October 19, 2017, 09:49:34 AM
Irish too. Doesn't help that to the Irish, alcohol is basically water - so lots of empty calories and sugar.

Sorry to hear that the Irish have the same problem. I assume, though, that the Irish don't have such a problem with obesity, like here in the U.S. Would that be right?
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Nadir on October 19, 2017, 04:05:25 PM
Thanks for answering, Meg. Sounds like a fast food diet like America.

Pizza is Scottish :(

About Ireland:

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Data from the 2015 Healthy Ireland Survey show that 60% of the population aged 15 years and over are either overweight or obese – 37% are overweight and a further 23% are obese (Department of Health/Ipsos MRBI, 2015)

http://health.gov.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/A-Healthy-Weight-for-Ireland-Obesity-Policy-and-Action-Plan-2016-2025.pdf
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: CathMomof7 on December 28, 2017, 02:12:45 PM
I was never obese in my life.  After giving birth a few times, I was over weight, but I always lost the weight within a year.  Until I hit 45.  It's as if my metabolism came to a stand still.  After my mother died in 2015, I gained additional weight.  I was up to 210 lbs!  It was horrible.  

I finally went to see the Dr. and had my metabolic rate tested along with some blood levels.  I was put on a very strict low carb, high protein diet, less than 1000 calories a day,  and I began running 5 miles a day.  I lost 40 pounds in about 6 months.  And then I hurt my knee.  Running became impossible.  My insurance no longer pays for obesity services.  I tried to maintain my low carb diet, which I do okay with most of the time.  But I have gained back 20 of the 40 pounds I lost.  I still eat only around 1000 calories, but my exercise is limited.

It's a horrible place to be in, having never been heavy outside of pregnancy.  But I do my best, and kept trying.

Yes, we eat fresh vegetables.  No, I don't eat refined sugar, other than 1 teaspoon in my coffee daily.  I don't eat bread, cake, cookies, pies, or ice cream.  No I don't eat chips or crackers or pasta.  (Except on birthdays or a holiday.)  No we don't eat fast food, except on occasion.  

So give us a break.  Some of us are sitting here stuffing our faces with meatballs and doritoes.  
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Ladislaus on December 28, 2017, 02:21:16 PM
I was never obese in my life.  After giving birth a few times, I was over weight, but I always lost the weight within a year.  Until I hit 45.  It's as if my metabolism came to a stand still.  After my mother died in 2015, I gained additional weight.  I was up to 210 lbs!  It was horrible.  

I finally went to see the Dr. and had my metabolic rate tested along with some blood levels.  I was put on a very strict low carb, high protein diet, less than 1000 calories a day,  and I began running 5 miles a day.  I lost 40 pounds in about 6 months.  And then I hurt my knee.  Running became impossible.  My insurance no longer pays for obesity services.  I tried to maintain my low carb diet, which I do okay with most of the time.  But I have gained back 20 of the 40 pounds I lost.  I still eat only around 1000 calories, but my exercise is limited.

It's a horrible place to be in, having never been heavy outside of pregnancy.  But I do my best, and kept trying.

Yes, we eat fresh vegetables.  No, I don't eat refined sugar, other than 1 teaspoon in my coffee daily.  I don't eat bread, cake, cookies, pies, or ice cream.  No I don't eat chips or crackers or pasta.  (Except on birthdays or a holiday.)  No we don't eat fast food, except on occasion.  

So give us a break.  Some of us are sitting here stuffing our faces with meatballs and doritoes.  

1000 calories is absurdly low.  What idiot put you on that?  Look into something called intermittent fasting.  Problem is that the body needs to get into a fat burning mode and also rebalance the insulin system.

You basically need to restrict your eating to an 8-hour window.  Usually just skipping breakfast accomplishes this.  After about 12 hours, the body goes into fat burning mode and also rebuilds pancreatic cells and restores the insulin system.

Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: CathMomof7 on December 28, 2017, 02:27:29 PM
1000 calories is absurdly low.  What idiot put you on that?  Look into something called intermittent fasting.  Problem is that the body needs to get into a fat burning mode and also rebalance the insulin system.

You basically need to restrict your eating to an 8-hour window.  Usually just skipping breakfast accomplishes this.  After about 12 hours, the body goes into fat burning mode and also rebuilds pancreatic cells and restores the insulin system.
My doctor put me on a 1000 calorie a day diet, low carb, high protein.  Try eating high protein on a 1000 calorie a day diet.  My resting metabolic rate is around 1200, meaning I must eat less than this to lose weight.  Even after running 5 miles a day for 6 months, my resting metabolic rate only rose to around 1250.  
I don't eat breakfast until around 10 am.  And it's usually high protein.
I rarely eat lunch.  I have a main meal in the evening.
I don't eat seconds.  Well, unless it's chili.  
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Ladislaus on December 28, 2017, 03:51:45 PM
My doctor put me on a 1000 calorie a day diet, low carb, high protein.  Try eating high protein on a 1000 calorie a day diet.  My resting metabolic rate is around 1200, meaning I must eat less than this to lose weight.  Even after running 5 miles a day for 6 months, my resting metabolic rate only rose to around 1250.  
I don't eat breakfast until around 10 am.  And it's usually high protein.
I rarely eat lunch.  I have a main meal in the evening.
I don't eat seconds.  Well, unless it's chili.  

Resting Metabolic Rate is just what you need to keep your organs from shutting down!  If you get up and walk around and don't just lay in bed all day, you're going to need significantly more than that.  It's called resting rate precisely because it assumes that you're just laying there practically asleep for 24 hours and engaging in no activity whatsoever.

If you don't eat until 10AM, then simply do not eat after 6PM ... and you'd be doing intermittent fasting.  Give it a try.  People say it works wonders, and scientific studies back it up.

Here's an interesting read about all the benefits of intermittent fasting --

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/intermittent-fasting-guide
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: songbird on January 15, 2018, 03:32:40 PM
From the web site: Doctor Within I believe he had an article on obesity of children.  I also read a decade or more ago, that children obesity was going to rise more.  How do they know?  Come to find out vaccines are linked to obesity and my daughter age 32 is an example.  I  have no doubt that vaccines and such can mutate genes and harm thyroids.
Title: "Sugar"?/Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: AlligatorDicax on January 16, 2018, 01:13:33 AM

Real certified organic food is not cheap.
Breakfast and snack food loaded with GMO high fructose sugar, processed GMO white flour with bromide, and MSG are much cheaper.


High Fructose corn syrup and all the sugar substitutes are worse than plain old white sugar.

I was surprised that an Internet search restricted specifically to CathInfo [‡] discovered no topics in this "Health and Nutrition" (sub)forum that were obviously devoted to "sugar", whether generally, or either to what might be called "traditional sugar", or to "high fructose corn syrup" in particular.  By "obviously", I mean any topic in which any of those phrases constitutes the majority of its title [×].

I thought of starting one such topic as a standing catch-all, but I have no power to pin topics in CathInfo.  I'm merely an alert consumer, and certainly no expert in the fields of knowledge that are involved.  And I don't want to create an obligation for myself to monitor it to keep it active.  Why worry about such a thing?  Because Matthew seems to dislike having postings added to topics that had previously lapsed into inactivity [†] months or years earlier, even when the new postings are perfectly on-topic for the lapsed topic.

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Note ‡: Making an exception to my usual Internet practices by using Google, which not only seems to have privileged access to content on CathInfo, but to update it with speed that's, um, quite surprising for what, as even Matthew acknowledges, is a relatively small active membership.

Note ×: But not as abbreviations; e.g., whenever I see the abbreviation "HFCS" without much context, my brain interprets it as "HydroFlouroCarbon" and then stalls on the "Something" part.

Note †: I recall Matthew's disparaging term being something like "necrotopic".
Title: Re: "Sugar"?/Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: MaterDominici on January 16, 2018, 01:29:16 AM
Note †: I recall Matthew's disparaging term being something like "necrotopic".
I wouldn't take his ribbing as an actual opinion on the matter... especially when the topic has no connection to a particular time such as a conversation about sugar.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Croix de Fer on January 16, 2018, 05:47:32 AM
The CDC and medical establishment have lied about sugar since the early 20th century.

High intake of sugar, white rice & carbs, and very low intake of fat and excess animal protein, cures Type 2 diabetes, and induces weight loss while sustaining energy. Sugar increases insulin sensitivity.

High fat and excess animal protein causes Type 2 diabetes and increases obesity onset. It increases insulin resistance. Even worse, a synergistic intake of fat, animal protein and sugar/carbs leads to the highest onset of obesity. So sugar/carbs are great as long as your intake of fat and animal protein is very low.

Sport is a metaphor for life. No athlete in the history of sport ever won a performance competition while in ketosis.

St. Paul tells us, "Do you not know that in a race all the runners compete, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it." ~ 1 Corinthians 9:24

Sugar (converted into glycogen) is the fuel for physical performance. The Holy Ghost is the Fuel for our spiritual race to Heaven.

Dr. McDougall references medical journals that show white rice & table sugar actually cures Type 2 diabetes, and he mentions the medical establishment's apparent conspiracy to lie about sugar & carbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgrVEntW7ko

Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: songbird on January 16, 2018, 08:50:00 AM
My husband, kept his CE's up for licensed pharmacy tech.  CE on contaminates 3 years ago, here in Phoenix.  All Rice is contaminated.  Don't eat rice.  GMO free labels do not cover foods that are "contaminated".

Sugar cubes kept polio serum alive in the 60's.

I am a strong believer that anything that turns to sugar: potatoes, rice and etc must be avoided, if sugar is a problem.  I had a Polycystic Ovary (lady) issue.  I highly suggested she lay off as much sugar as possible, for medical info stated refined white sugar caused hard shells over the ovary (also cataracts).  She dropped also Metformin and she lost weight(she was obese) and after 8 years of trying to become pregnant, she conceived and had a boy Dec. 3.  I was so excited for her.

Our daughter was diagnosed with irritable bowel syndrome.  She read the book, "Breaking the Vicious cycle".  She did exactly as instructed and she is a survivor!  It instructs no sugars, no grains.  She uses honey and almond flour.  
Title: "Pot Bellies"/Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: AlligatorDicax on May 05, 2018, 11:12:25 AM
In honor of the U.S. pseudoholiday Cinco de Mayo, I'm offering an on-topic published entry (unedited) from the Orlando Sentinel's anonymous daily reader-gripes column:

Quote from: Orlando Sentinel "Ticked Off" Nov. 30 2017

So many pot bellies. What's happened to young girls and moms who are sporting pot bellies?  When did this start ... fast food?  The digital epidemic?  No slim Jackie Kennedy ... Coco Chanel ... Audrey Hepburn?  So many pretty faces need to face the health risks.


I neither wrote nor submitted the above entry to them.  The ellipses are its author's or the Sentinel's.

I suspect that it was written by a Baby-Boom woman.  That's because most men of that generation, who would know immediately who Mrs. Kennedy was (and not as the earlier life of "Jackie Onassis") would most likely connect Chanel only with the then-heavily advertised perfume brand, but with no details, and in particular, no mental image.

As Baby-Boom teenage boys, my peers and I were completely clueless about how far out as a statistical outlier was the 1960s movie star Raquel "Welch" Tejada (ahem!) among the population of natives of Mexico who immigrated to the U.S.A.

In Central Florida, the published anonymous complaint applies in startlingly high proportion--substantially more than 40%--to Puerto Ricans, who are much more common here than Mexicans or other Latin Americans.  It also applies, in descending proportions, to blacks of various national origins (including U.S.) and to nonHispanic whites.

In fairness, I concede that my observations of members of the identified minority groups are biased toward those who have an economically low standard of living.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Matthew on May 06, 2018, 01:58:30 PM
The CDC and medical establishment have lied about sugar since the early 20th century.

High intake of sugar, white rice & carbs, and very low intake of fat and excess animal protein, cures Type 2 diabetes, and induces weight loss while sustaining energy. Sugar increases insulin sensitivity.

High fat and excess animal protein causes Type 2 diabetes and increases obesity onset. It increases insulin resistance. Even worse, a synergistic intake of fat, animal protein and sugar/carbs leads to the highest onset of obesity. So sugar/carbs are great as long as your intake of fat and animal protein is very low.

Sport is a metaphor for life. No athlete in the history of sport ever won a performance competition while in ketosis.

St. Paul tells us, "Do you not know that in a race all the runners compete, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it." ~ 1 Corinthians 9:24

Sugar (converted into glycogen) is the fuel for physical performance. The Holy Ghost is the Fuel for our spiritual race to Heaven.

Dr. McDougall references medical journals that show white rice & table sugar actually cures Type 2 diabetes, and he mentions the medical establishment's apparent conspiracy to lie about sugar & carbs.

I've seen exactly the opposite of this -- that when a person eliminates refined sugar and/or carbs, they are able to treat diabetes without medication.
Also, those who refrain from sugar/carbs lose a lot of weight. It seems to be a proven healthy way to eat.
It's also a fact that refined sugar and carbs in everything hasn't been possible before the Modern Age, with high-speed transport, agri-business, factories producing most of our food, etc.
Unless you lived somewhere that grew sugar cane (note: this is only a minority of places!) the only source of "sweet stuff" would be honey and fruit. And fruit only grew for X months of the year -- sure, they made preserves for the winter, but you couldn't eat it like it was going out of style, or you'd run out. Ditto for honey. Bees can only produce so much honey per year.
Today, they put High Fructose Corn Syrup in everything. Just read the labels! Also, most processed food contains extra carbs in the form of soy "fillers", flours, and what not.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Maria Regina on May 07, 2018, 12:13:19 AM
I've seen exactly the opposite of this -- that when a person eliminates refined sugar and/or carbs, they are able to treat diabetes without medication.
Also, those who refrain from sugar/carbs lose a lot of weight. It seems to be a proven healthy way to eat.
It's also a fact that refined sugar and carbs in everything hasn't been possible before the Modern Age, with high-speed transport, agri-business, factories producing most of our food, etc.
Unless you lived somewhere that grew sugar cane (note: this is only a minority of places!) the only source of "sweet stuff" would be honey and fruit. And fruit only grew for X months of the year -- sure, they made preserves for the winter, but you couldn't eat it like it was going out of style, or you'd run out. Ditto for honey. Bees can only produce so much honey per year.
Today, they put High Fructose Corn Syrup in everything. Just read the labels! Also, most process food contains extra carbs in the form of soy "fillers", flours, and what not.
I agree, Matthew.

Two years ago, I went on a sugar-free diet (no types of sugar including honey, agave, molasses and added fructose). I also quit eating all types of grain: corn, wheat, rice, rye, oatmeal, barley, and flour made with those grains. I have lost 30 pounds and have maintained a healthy body weight since then. The doctor is pleased not only because my blood pressure is now normal, but also because my cholesterol and triglyceride levels are in the normal range. I eat meats and fish in moderation except during the Great Lenten Fast. I also eat plenty of vegetables, nuts, avocados, eggs, and grass fed cow and goat organic butters and cheeses. Fruits are eaten in season and in moderation.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Tiffany on May 10, 2018, 08:09:13 PM
Ok, but a lot of the people who cut out sugar basically cut out sugar completely, they don't even eat fruit, which I think is a bit extreme.
Big difference between cutting out or reducing refined sugar vs cutting out fruit. Your tastes do change that some fruits will be too sweet alone but they can be added to grains. I can eat citrus fruits or berries all day but can only eat a half apple or banana before I'm like it's too sweet so I add them to oats.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Tiffany on May 10, 2018, 08:30:47 PM
I've seen exactly the opposite of this -- that when a person eliminates refined sugar and/or carbs, they are able to treat diabetes without medication.
Also, those who refrain from sugar/carbs lose a lot of weight. It seems to be a proven healthy way to eat.
It's also a fact that refined sugar and carbs in everything hasn't been possible before the Modern Age, with high-speed transport, agri-business, factories producing most of our food, etc.
Unless you lived somewhere that grew sugar cane (note: this is only a minority of places!) the only source of "sweet stuff" would be honey and fruit. And fruit only grew for X months of the year -- sure, they made preserves for the winter, but you couldn't eat it like it was going out of style, or you'd run out. Ditto for honey. Bees can only produce so much honey per year.
Today, they put High Fructose Corn Syrup in everything. Just read the labels! Also, most processed food contains extra carbs in the form of soy "fillers", flours, and what not.
Don't pump added refined sugar or HFCS with a carb based diet. Grains have been the main food in most cultures since the plow was invented. Whatever grain or starchy vegetable could grow in that climate became a staple. The high carb- no meat - low fat diet to improve health is not soda and candy. It's based on minimally processed starchy vegetables, whole grains, and legumes, with fruit and non starchy vegetables added.
Title: Re: 40 percent of U.S. Adults are Obese
Post by: Tiffany on May 10, 2018, 09:14:42 PM
*lump