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Offline Ladislaus

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13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
« on: July 22, 2020, 07:25:24 PM »
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  • https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/us/felician-sisters-covid-deaths-trnd/index.html

    There's a little tidbit in the story that the nuns live on a 350-acre campus that used to have 800 religious sisters, but now they are reduced to 50.


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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #1 on: July 22, 2020, 08:40:17 PM »
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  • Convents, like monasteries, are little more than pious nursing homes these days. 


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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #2 on: July 22, 2020, 09:19:21 PM »
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  • Perhaps it is a punishment for their sins.  

    Perhaps they really died of something else such as the regular flu and not covid, The authorities want to
    up the numbers of CV19 so the authorities finds an excuse to continue the lockdowns and scare and panic the
    population into submission and obedience.

    It is all about power and merging the world into a one world ultra leftists government. 

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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #3 on: July 22, 2020, 11:01:26 PM »
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  • Perhaps it is a punishment for their sins.  

    Then I've got something far worse than death by COVID-19 to look forward to, because I am quite confident my sins are greater than any of these nuns'.
    It's worth noting that they all wear a fairly traditional habit (you can see their hair peeking out from the wimple) and a crucifix.

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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #4 on: July 23, 2020, 12:34:40 AM »
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  • None of there nuns wears a wimple, just a veil.

    The whole community is in their 70's, and most who died (may God rest their souls) were in their 80's and 90's. I suppose this convent must have been a sort of nursing home for the aged, so not surprising that so many would die. They are no doubt a big loss for their sisters left behind.

    On another page it says they were agents of change. I imagine they would have been. We hope forthe better. They look very sweet. God will reward them for the good they have done for Him in their lifetimes.
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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #5 on: July 23, 2020, 05:13:40 PM »
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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #6 on: July 23, 2020, 09:04:48 PM »
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  • None of there nuns wears a wimple, just a veil.

    The whole community is in their 70's, and most who died (may God rest their souls) were in their 80's and 90's. I suppose this convent must have been a sort of nursing home for the aged, so not surprising that so many would die. They are no doubt a big loss for their sisters left behind.

    On another page it says they were agents of change. I imagine they would have been. We hope forthe better. They look very sweet. God will reward them for the good they have done for Him in their lifetimes.
    I thought "wimple" was the generic term for a nun's head covering.  I stand corrected.

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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #7 on: July 24, 2020, 07:17:56 AM »
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  • Then I've got something far worse than death by COVID-19 to look forward to, because I am quite confident my sins are greater than any of these nuns'.
    It's worth noting that they all wear a fairly traditional habit (you can see their hair peeking out from the wimple) and a crucifix.
    As am I.  Having said that, given these nuns were most likely in communion with the Vatican II sect, I think the bigger concern is whether they died as a Catholic.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #8 on: July 24, 2020, 08:34:27 AM »
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  • Convents, like monasteries, are little more than pious nursing homes these days.

    That is absolutely the case.

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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #9 on: July 24, 2020, 08:41:42 AM »
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  • As am I.  Having said that, given these nuns were most likely in communion with the Vatican II sect, I think the bigger concern is whether they died as a Catholic.

    That would be on an individual basis.  This dogmatic sedevacantist reference to Vatican II as a non-Catholic sect is misguided.  Unlike most non-Catholic sects, which have overtly broken from the Catholic Church, with the Novus Ordo it is very possible for someone to be in material error only, while continuing to profess the Catholic faith.  There are many souls who still have the faith in the Novus Ordo (certainly only a small percentage of the whole, but not a trivial number in terms of raw numbers).  Many of them either came to believe that V2 could be understood as in harmony with Tradition if you apply some hermeneutic of continuity, but far more only vaguely understand the errors of Vatican II and what the controversy is all about.

    It's interesting that a lot of dogmatic sedevacantists are among the biggest enemies of EENS dogma, holding that it's possible to be saved outside of the Church due to material error, and then make zero allowance for the possibility of material error in the Novus Ordo.  And it is in fact in the Novus Ordo that such error is possible due to people believing that it's still the Catholic Church.  That is in fact the very definition of material error, where you believe something because you mistakenly THINK it is taught by the Church.  So even if you hold an error, it's not because you have the wrong formal motive.

    So, at the end of the day, it's a case by case thing with each nun.  Some probably had no supernatural faith due to heresy and modernism, while others very possibly kept the faith.

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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #10 on: July 24, 2020, 11:46:02 AM »
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  • That would be on an individual basis.  This dogmatic sedevacantist reference to Vatican II as a non-Catholic sect is misguided.  Unlike most non-Catholic sects, which have overtly broken from the Catholic Church, with the Novus Ordo it is very possible for someone to be in material error only, while continuing to profess the Catholic faith.  There are many souls who still have the faith in the Novus Ordo (certainly only a small percentage of the whole, but not a trivial number in terms of raw numbers).  Many of them either came to believe that V2 could be understood as in harmony with Tradition if you apply some hermeneutic of continuity, but far more only vaguely understand the errors of Vatican II and what the controversy is all about.

    It's interesting that a lot of dogmatic sedevacantists are among the biggest enemies of EENS dogma, holding that it's possible to be saved outside of the Church due to material error, and then make zero allowance for the possibility of material error in the Novus Ordo.  And it is in fact in the Novus Ordo that such error is possible due to people believing that it's still the Catholic Church.  That is in fact the very definition of material error, where you believe something because you mistakenly THINK it is taught by the Church.  So even if you hold an error, it's not because you have the wrong formal motive.

    So, at the end of the day, it's a case by case thing with each nun.  Some probably had no supernatural faith due to heresy and modernism, while others very possibly kept the faith.
    blah blah blah.....dogmatic sedevacantist....blah blah blah.....
    Seriously, Lad, while I agree that each nun is a case by case basis, you really need to stop with the constant references to dogmatic sedevacantist. You're no better than XavierSem. It's getting to the point that I won't even read your posts. 
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #11 on: July 24, 2020, 12:52:09 PM »
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  • My they rest in peace.

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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #12 on: July 24, 2020, 01:51:41 PM »
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  • blah blah blah.....dogmatic sedevacantist....blah blah blah.....
    Seriously, Lad, while I agree that each nun is a case by case basis, you really need to stop with the constant references to dogmatic sedevacantist. You're no better than XavierSem. It's getting to the point that I won't even read your posts.

    When you claim that people are adherents of a schismatic sect simply because they are not Traditional Catholics, I'm going to call you out on it, 2V.  That is in fact one of the clear hallmarks of dogmatic sedevacantism.

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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #13 on: July 24, 2020, 01:59:07 PM »
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    May God have mercy on the nuns that died.
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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    Re: 13 NO Nuns at one convent die of COVID
    « Reply #14 on: July 24, 2020, 02:00:27 PM »
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  • When you claim that people are adherents of a schismatic sect simply because they are not Traditional Catholics, I'm going to call you out on it, 2V.  That is in fact one of the clear hallmarks of dogmatic sedevacantism.
    And who are you to decide what is and is not a so-called "dogmatic sedevacantist" (ie...who is schismatic)?  You're a hypocrite just like Xavier and all of the rest of the rabid anti-sedes.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)