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100 deaths from Measles Vaccine - 0 deaths from Measles!
« on: February 05, 2015, 05:40:17 PM »
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  • Brian Shilhavy
    Health Impact News Editor

    With the measles and measles vaccine debate reaching a near frenzy on the Internet, it is always nice to throw some cold hard facts on the firestorm currently raging in the measles debate.

    So here are some easily verifiable facts regarding deaths associated with measles in the United States for the past 10 years, and deaths associated with measles vaccines during the same 10 year period.

    First, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) keeps a weekly tally of disease outbreaks, including deaths. According to a statement made by Dr. Anne Schuchat, the director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, in an Associated Press story picked up by Fox News on April 25, 2014:

    There have been no measles deaths reported in the U.S. since 2003

    The weekly CDC Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Reports (MMWR) since that date have not revealed any measles deaths either.

    And while health authorities are blaming measles outbreaks in recent years on unvaccinated children, when you mention the fact that nobody is dying from measles in the U.S., they are quick to turn around and claim vaccines have eliminated measles deaths (even though they cannot eliminate the disease itself apparently.)

    Besides the obvious contradiction in reasoning with such a claim, the historical evidence just does not support it either:


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    Death by Measles Vaccines

    What about deaths associated with the measles vaccine during the same time period?

    The U.S. Government keeps a database of reports called The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). The database is available to the public, and there is a search portal the public can use at Medalerts.org.

    We ran a search for a ten year period for deaths reported with measles vaccines, including a few that are no longer in production. The search result contained 108 deaths over this period, associated with four different measles vaccines sold in the United States during the past 10 years.

    VAERS-Measles-Vaccine-Deaths

     

    Today, one can only purchase a measles vaccine in combination with the mumps and rubella vaccines (MMR Vaccine).

    When searching for just the MMR vaccine during the past 10 years, 96 deaths were reported:

    MMR-deaths

     

    Anybody with a computer and Internet access can search this database by visiting MedAlerts.org.

    This database reflects only deaths that were reported during the time frame, and therefore probably reflects a much lower number than actual deaths, since most doctors and health authorities believe vaccines are safe, and would not normally attribute a death to a vaccine and actually report it.

    The U.S. Government Settlements on Measles Vaccine Injuries

    The other place to find facts regarding injuries and deaths due to the measles vaccine is to look at U.S. Government settlements for MMR vaccine injuries and deaths. The U.S. public is largely unaware that manufacturers of vaccines have been given legal immunity from being prosecuted in civil court for vaccine injuries and deaths, since 1986. If someone is injured or killed by a vaccine, they have to sue the U.S. Government in a special “vaccine court.”

    The Department of Justice issues quarterly reports on claims and settlements, and one can search for specific vaccines settlements  at the United States Federal Courts website.

    As search here for “measles” returns a result of 111 claims settled for the MMR vaccine since 2004. Some of them are for settlements due to deaths related to the MMR vaccine, as determined by the judge.

    Measles-vaccine-settlements

    We did not click on and read each decision to find out how many resulted in deaths, but if we get a few reports from others who are willing to do so, and the numbers match, we will update this story with the actual death figure.

    It takes many years to win a case in this vaccine court, so this probably represents only a tiny fraction of actual injuries and deaths due to the MMR vaccine.

    Conclusion: Measles Vaccine Enthusiasm based Largely on Fear and Beliefs

    We fully realize that those who believe in the value of vaccines will probably not be persuaded by these facts, which anyone with a computer and Internet access can verify from U.S. Government sources.

    Having now published a few stories on the measles issue, and having received many hundreds of comments, it has become very clear to us that those who have strong opinions on the measles vaccine are based more on fear and beliefs, than they are on facts or science. Any attempt by these vaccine proponents to force their beliefs on the rest of the U.S. public should be vigorously opposed.

    - See more at: http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/zero-u-s-measles-deaths-in-10-years-but-over-100-measles-vaccine-deaths-reported/#sthash.Cwyi0QBH.dpuf

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    100 deaths from Measles Vaccine - 0 deaths from Measles!
    « Reply #1 on: February 05, 2015, 08:01:00 PM »
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  • When I was a child measles would go around pretty regularly. It is highly infectious.

    If a mother knew that a neighbour or family/friend had a child/ren with measles, she would request to bring her kid/s around to visit, in order to get it over with. Hmmm... obviously it was not regarded at too deadly then.

    Of course if a severely malnourished and chronically sickly child was to get it in some place where there was no medical treatment available and harsh living conditions like lack of or contaminated water, the child could well die, but it probably wouldn't be the measles that was the real problem.
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    100 deaths from Measles Vaccine - 0 deaths from Measles!
    « Reply #2 on: February 05, 2015, 11:14:10 PM »
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  • The reason health officials want people to get vaccinated is because measles is treatable and has the potential to be eradicated.  

    Here is an interesting article:

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    Hollywood's Vaccine Wars

    Vaccination rates are plummeting at top Hollywood schools, from Malibu to Beverly Hills, from John Thomas Dye to Turning Point, where affluent, educated parents are opting out in shocking numbers (leaving some schools’ immunization rates on par with South Sudan) as an outbreak of potentially fatal WHOOPING COUGH threatens L.A. like “wildfire”


    THE KIDS AREN’T ALL RIGHT.  Across California, thousands of children and babies are coughing so violently that their bodies convulse, uncontrollably wheezing and fighting to breathe for weeks. Nearly 8,000 pertussis cases have been reported in 2014 to the state’s Department of Public Health as of Sept. 2, and 267 of those patients have been hospitalized, including 58 requiring intensive care.



    The media has been blaming this outbreak on right wingers   and their science phobias. Funny how liberal states are choosing not to get vaccinated and states like  Mississippi and West Virginia have the highest vaccine rates.

    Mississippi, a Vaccination Leader, Stands by Its Strict Rules


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    100 deaths from Measles Vaccine - 0 deaths from Measles!
    « Reply #3 on: February 06, 2015, 01:22:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: ClarkSmith
    The reason health officials want people to get vaccinated is because measles is treatable and has the potential to be eradicated.  
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    Oh that's right I forgot, the .gov/media really care about us.
    Sorry, I didn't drink the kool-aid.
    Check this out:

    Revolt of the Innocents

    By Bruce Frankel
    An Angry Victim Seeks Justice for Schoolmates Once Treated as Guinea Pigs    
    Fred Boyce, a Norwell, Mass., real estate broker and carnival concessionaire, was pulling into a parking lot in early 1994 when he was jolted by news on the car radio. A federal investigation had concluded that in the 1940s and '50s, scientists from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology had conducted radiation experiments on unwitting children at the Walter E. Fernald State School in Waltham, Mass. "What! That can't be right," thought Boyce, 57. "That's us! That's me!"

    In all, at least 74 boys had been fed oatmeal laced with radioactive isotopes that acted as tracers while the food was digested. The experiments, sponsored by the Quaker Oats Co.—and approved by the federal Atomic Energy Commission—were undertaken in part to match advertising claims by rival Cream of Wheat that nutrients in the latter cereal traveled throughout the body. The studies were among dozens of government-sanctioned radiation experiments, classified Top Secret, that were conducted during the Cold War on children, pregnant women, hospital patients and prisoners.

    Boyce, recalling how he had been lured into the experiments five decades ago with gifts of Hopalong Cassidy mugs, boat rides and outings to Boston Braves baseball games, was tempted at first to let bygones be bygones. He had spent a lifetime trying to forget his years at the brick-walled institution on the outskirts of Boston. But the more he thought about it, the more determined he became to seek compensation for himself and his fellow guinea pigs—who had been told they were the lucky members of the school's "Science Club." "I said to myself, 'Go and open this thing up. What are they going to do to me?' " says Boyce. He began tracking down his schoolmates, many of whom were reluctant to join the suit, fearful of being stigmatized.

    Thanks in part to Boyce's efforts, he and about 40 other victims accepted $1.85 million on April 6 from MIT and Quaker Oats to settle a class-action suit against the university and the food company. Now, says Boyce, they will press forward with suits against the federal government, for providing the radioactive material, and against the state, for allowing the experiments. "The state guys were rats," he says. "They were supposed to act as our parents."

    When the MIT scientists first stepped into Fernald's grim wards, they had little trouble enticing Boyce to participate, along with dozens of other Fernald boys who had been orphaned or taken from dysfunctional families, labeled—often inaccurately—feebleminded and warehoused among hundreds of severely retarded adults and children. Daily life was a numbing mix of boredom and brutality. Boyce recalls how an attendant watching over a ward of 36 children would force them to sit on wooden benches for hours with arms folded. "If you unfolded your arms," he says, "you were whacked." Any opportunity to escape Fernald was so irresistible, Boyce says, that had the scientists offered an outing in exchange for taking arsenic, he would have agreed: "My hand is up! I want it! We're going to a ball game!"

    The young Boyce was certain that the scientists would be his salvation. They would witness the beatings, humiliations and daily deprivations and put a stop to them. "I was sure they were going to say, 'What the hell is going on here?' " he recalls.

    But if the researchers became aware of conditions, they never let on. Rather, they forged ahead with their experiments without ever mentioning radiation. Indeed, MIT scientist Robert hαɾɾιs noted that recalcitrant children might be "induced to change their minds [by emphasizing] the Fernald Science Club angle."

    The experiments remained secret until 1993, when Secretary of Energy Hazel O'Leary, breaking precedent, began declassifying docuмents and urging compensation. The following year a state panel confirmed that small amounts of radioactive calcium and iron were fed to at least 74 Fernald residents, leading MIT President Charles Vest and President Clinton to apologize for the tests conducted without informed consent. Nonetheless, a presidential advisory committee maintains that the experiments' participants are not entitled to federal compensation because the trace doses of radiation they received had no effect on their health.

    To Science Club alum Joe Almeida, 55, such claims are infuriating, particularly because a significant amount of radioactive isotopes supplied for the experiments remains unaccounted for. "You've got to think about it all the time. It's bad enough that [the state] took our childhood away," says Almeida, now a bus driver at Fernald, but in ongoing negotiations state officials "have the attitude, 'Give them a few cents and shut them up.' " Michael Mattchen, a lawyer representing Boyce and the others, says that his clients' rights were violated and that they are now suffering from emotional distress. "The fact that they weren't maimed or killed is a pretty lame defense."

    Boyce was sent to Fernald in 1949, at age 8. The second of 13 children taken from his mother when she could no longer care for them after her husband died in 1941, he had been living in a foster home—his fifth—when his foster mother, too, passed away. He and four foster siblings were labeled mentally retarded and taken to Fernald. Increasingly rebellious as he grew into his teens, Boyce was occasionally confined in a high-security unit at the institution. Finally, in 1959, Fernald's administrators discharged him, then 18 and virtually unable to read or write.

    After earning $1 an hour hammering ladders together for the now-defunct Grifford Ladder Company in Waltham, Boyce later began traveling the country as a carnival worker, eventually running his own concessions. Briefly married and divorced in 1987, he lives in a fashionable Boston suburb and travels the carnival circuit eight months a year. Self-educated, he devotes much of the rest of his time to helping less-fortunate Fernald alumni prepare for future suits. "Fred's not just for Fred," says Joe Almeida. "Fred is for everybody."


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    100 deaths from Measles Vaccine - 0 deaths from Measles!
    « Reply #4 on: February 06, 2015, 05:22:20 PM »
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  • Why the current hysteria over measles?  Even when I was a kid it was no big deal, you felt miserable for a while but no one "feared" measles?  

    What's up now?  Why the change in outlook?

    Marsha


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    100 deaths from Measles Vaccine - 0 deaths from Measles!
    « Reply #5 on: February 06, 2015, 05:52:57 PM »
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  • Quote from: Marlelar
    Why the current hysteria over measles?  Even when I was a kid it was no big deal, you felt miserable for a while but no one "feared" measles?  

    What's up now?  Why the change in outlook?

    Marsha

    Good question Marsha. The ptb are using the Hegelian Dialectic. They are creating a psuedo-problem so they can they pretend to be responding when they bring in forced shots, not only for a common childhood disease, but more and more forced shots. More and more totalitarian control of the population/
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    « Reply #6 on: February 11, 2015, 11:33:26 PM »
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  • Measles are not that harmless. There was a lady at my parish when I was a child. She had the measles when she was pregnant. The child was born deaf. The deafness was attributed to the measles.  

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    « Reply #7 on: February 12, 2015, 04:16:21 AM »
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  • Poche, you are confusing Measles, also known as morbilli or rubeola with Rubella also known as "German Measles". They are two entirely different diseases.
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