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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: Napoli on July 04, 2013, 05:31:39 PM
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I attend a FSSP parish. I have always considered myself traditional.
I attended my first CMRI mass this week as well as a SSPX Mass. I was blown away. The homilies were a breath of fresh air. I was finally around like minded Catholics who love the true faith. It was inspirational.
I have many people to thank on this website for giving me the courage to take that first step.
Pray for me on this journey
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Praise God!
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Prayers! Absolutely! Amen! It does feel great and brings tears of Joy!
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Oh, yes, the Best Part of All, is receiving the Precious Blood that all the others are missing. We just celebrated the Feast of the Precious Blood for 1 July!
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Wow! Talk about Great News! Let the Fireworks begin!!
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:pray:
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:cheers:
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Thank you for your kind words and prayers.
I thought there would be a feeling of alienation. How wrong I was. There is a feeling of finally being united with the true faithful. Not a watered down feel good type of feeling. A real tangible awareness.
I feel hopeful and excited.
Pax
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Happy to hear that, Napoli!
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God Bless.
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I had the same experience when I visited my SSPX Chapel for the first time. I felt finally at home. I am very happy for you!
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I'm curious how your experience was like at the FSSP parish
and how was the CMRI and SSPX different? Especially since
all three groups say the same mass. We're the sermons better at
the SSPX and CMRI . Did the priests appear to be more holy?
Thank you and God bless!
James :confused1:
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I would say the priests were more zealous. There was a more relevant homily than I am used to. The priests obviously were not handcuffed by what they could say. The people present were along the same lines in dress and demeanour as the FSSP parish. Maybe slightly more strict and severe. Of course, there was a dose of bashing the new church, which I appreciated.
Now the challenge is that there is no CMRI chapel anywhere near my home. Closest is across the border and 4 hour drive. SSPX is closer. We'll have to start praying.
Pax
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I forgot to add that the mass at the FSSP parish is good but the homily was full of pro new church garbage.
I am still a little confused about the valid ordination controversy. But, I have problems supporting the FSSP when they seem to support V2 and consequently the novus ordo church.
The CMRI chapel was enlightening. Something special.
I have a love for the Good Bishop, so I have a soft spot in my heart for the SSPX.
Pax
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I forgot to add that the mass at the FSSP parish is good but the homily was full of pro new church garbage.
Yeah, FSSP sermons tend to have a lot of that in them.
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I forgot to add that the mass at the FSSP parish is good but the homily was full of pro new church garbage.
And sadly, this is now the direction of development for the
ExSPX. I expect that within a year ExSPX parishes will be
indistinguishable from FSSP, at this current rate of change.
I am still a little confused about the valid ordination controversy. But, I have problems supporting the FSSP when they seem to support V2 and consequently the novus ordo church.
The change in the form used for ordination happened in 1970.
But the bishop's form of consecration was changed in 1968.
We just passed the 45th anniversary on June 23rd. It's now
45 years of Newbishops. Note: it took ABL 20 years (1988)
to consecrate bishops according to the old form.
The CMRI chapel was enlightening. Something special.
I have a love for the Good Bishop, so I have a soft spot in my heart for the SSPX.
Pax
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:cheers:
I also passed through the FSSP. I left when I found out their priests were ordained by a NO Bishop.
The sermons by the FSSP priest were actually more fire and brimstone and anti-V2 than I have ever heard at SSPX or CMRI. He was a young priest but was on the ball when it came to those issues.
The ordination issue loomed large for me though so I decided to jump ship.
Marsha
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You make me feel good.
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Thank you so much for the picture! It makes me cry, thinking of the beauty and we have lost.
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When I get asked by the parishioners at the FSSP parish why I am not satisfied. What can I say as a defense of the position the resistance holds? Often I only have time to say a few words before they tune me out. I know I can't convert them, only the Holy Ghost can, but I feel I owe it to some of them since they are my friends.
It is a lonely road that we have all chosen. I truly feel like a pilgrim making his way home.
Pax
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What bothers me about attending mass with an "approved" traditional order is that is that there is no unity among the lay people when it comes to traditionalist issues.
Some of the people who go to mass there feel the same way as the SSPX about Vatican 2 and the new mass while other people take a more conservative approach about Vatican 2 that it was a wonderful council which was latter misinterpreted by liberals. While other people are clueless about any of those things and are just there to see what an old Latin mass looks like. I've seen people in the pews trying to follow along to the mass using an novus ordo missalette! I've also seen people get up and leave during the mass because they were just there out of curiosity and they decided it wasn't for them. Also the way people dress during mass varies from modest and appropriate to highly inappropriate for mass, especially women.
I try not to let these things bother me too much and want to not fall into the habit of being overly judgmental and pharisaical . But I can't help from being a little disturbed. It's the only TLM I have access to right now. On a positive note the mass is beautiful and priest is orthodox and doesn't preach heresy.
God Bless
James
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If you leave, what is your dissatisfaction? It should be: there is no Precious Blood here, I am looking for Christ and he is not here. I went to my Lady and she showed to me where He was.
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When I get asked by the parishioners at the FSSP parish why I am not satisfied. What can I say as a defense of the position the resistance holds? Often I only have time to say a few words before they tune me out. I know I can't convert them, only the Holy Ghost can, but I feel I owe it to some of them since they are my friends.
It is a lonely road that we have all chosen. I truly feel like a pilgrim making his way home.
Pax
-Depending on the priest, his orders may be doubtful.
-Is the NO celebrated in the same Church? If so, you may literally be stepping on Our Lord
-Your priest's performance of the TLM is conditional on his assent that it is just a prettier form of the NO (he may not actually believe this, but this is a provision under Summorum PontificuŠ¼)
-You don't want your family to be going to a Church that treats the crisis as something cosmetic (i.e., you don't want to go to a place where the 'problems' in the church are incidental or accidental-- your position on the crisis in the Church is that the Crisis proceeds from VII in and of itself, and the New Mass in and of itself, etc. The FSSP at least in policy does not believe this)
-If any of the above can be said honestly by you, you can also say that you do not want to go because you do not want to scandalize others by giving your tacit approval of any of the above points
Also, sometimes loneliness can be a good thing. People can be a distraction to God.
Be Blessed and Preserved.
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:applause: Good for you Napoli! I just saw this thread! Truly the Holy Ghost is working through you, and you are listening! :pray:
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Thanks for the comments everyone.
It has been easier than I expected.
I stumbled upon this forum, but I thank God everyday for it.
Pax